north Cyprus plans census

jacroy1


Joined: 04/08/2010
Posts: 127

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 12:02

Settlers in spotlight as North Cyprus plans census

see full story on this link

http://famagusta-gazette.com/settlers-in-spotlight-as-north-cyprus-plans-census-p11411-69.htm

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 12:15

Without international monitors any census or election in TRNC is meaningless and not to be trusted. Especially since the last one claimed a mere 44% of the population were settlers. Unbelievable...

havalı


Joined: 28/02/2011
Posts: 55

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 17:16

zoots.

why ıs that worry you so much cyprus populatıon.north cyprus that ıs.we never questıon south cyprus populatıon.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 17:39

Zoots

How many settlers have you got in the South then? Discounting Europeans off course.

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 17:41

Why are the europeans not settlers, have they not settled?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 17:55

Yes of course YFred but I was looking at it in the sane context that 'Zoots' is looking at it.

Europeans have the right to live and work anywhere in the EU community. What I was asking Zoots was how many non Europeans are living in the South and are they living in/on former TC property.

My guess is he has not got a valid answer.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 18:12

Do we discount the Russians and Philipinos in the South if they have a census? Seems to be a large number of both of late???

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 20:07

havali msg 3,

I'm not "worried" about the N Cyprus population. I pointed out that no reliable figures are available and that since the last census laughably claimed there were more Turkish Cypriots than settlers, local figures are not to be trusted. Therefore international monitors are needed if people want to get the truth.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 20:09

AJ,



Settlers in the south are mostly legal and documented to EU standards.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 20:22

Zoots

You are obviously aware of the falsification of TC owned title deeds by the ROC Land Registry changing ownership to GC's who have sold on to Russians.

If you are not then I suggest you do some research. The 'owners' of the land/property have sold because the issue has become a bit of a hot potato and they want a quick return without any complications. Interesting times and it is already starting to become an embarrassment to the ROC government.

Watch this space!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 20:31

Zoots

You are having a laugh.



'Settlers in the south are mostly legal and documented to EU standards.'



Tell me what the ROC does to EU standards.

They will take anyone that brings money into the ROC. No money laundering in the ROC?

So tell me what the documentation process to EU standards involves.

I like the bit about 'settlers being mostly legal' so who are the ones that are not legal?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 20:37

"..Eroglu did not clarify if the census will be held in the presence of international observers or under the UN auspices..."



Why would they want to be present?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 21:10

Msg 12,



Precisely!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 21:11

Solar powered torch.

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 21:18

AJ,

Any criminal tampering with title deeds should be cracked down on and people have been jailed in the south for selling TC property.

How many people have been jailed in the TRNC for selling thousands of GC properties to unsuspecting Brits who now have worthless title deeds and an uncertain future?

As for the cases you mention, I've searched the internet and nothing jumps out about Russians being sold TC property with falsified deeds. Can you provide a link please?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 21:29

Zoots

Answer the rest of my questions and I will be more than willing to answer yours.

bandieles


Joined: 30/10/2010
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 21:59

What about the TCs and GCs in Great Britain are they settlers . They get everything best of both worlds

YFred


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 1471

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 22:26

Bandieles,

what have you got against the poor TCs who moved 2,500 miles away from home from a country that pays their workers even when they are on strike to a third world country? Look what they gave you in return, the beautiful island paradise.

What more do you need?

Zoots


Joined: 05/02/2011
Posts: 669

Message Posted:
09/03/2011 22:37

AJ,

1. The RoC is obliged to comply with all EU regulations unless exempt.

2. Of course there is money laundering on both sides of Cyprus.

3. EU citizens have freedom of movement and employment. For others see here: http://www.cyprusvisa.eu/cyprus-residence-visa-requirements.html

4. Illegals hide away as they do in every EU country.

BTW, I don't think Cyprus should have been admitted to the EU as it was before a settlement. Sent out the wrong signals.

Over to you.

Deniz1


Joined: 28/07/2009
Posts: 3829

Message Posted:
10/03/2011 08:34

Take the south out of the EU then if they should not have been admitted.