Converting gravity fed Plumbing system to pressurised system

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 11:38

Converting gravity fed Plumbing system to pressurised system.

Getting fed up with the slow gravity fed water supply in the house, Has anyone had there's changed to pressure,

Had a quote from a plumber @ 950.TL is this the going rate for this kind of job. He said needs a new hot water tank, new pump, pressure control,

plus electrical work. or is there a simple way?



Doc

Geoff1131


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 276

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 12:05

Hi lindoc, not sure about the price of the pump, tank and controls needed, but the plumber is right, you need them. Your present system is not designed for pressure and does not have a pressure pump fitted, so he is being honest. One more thing he will have to check is the internal pipework, as that too will not have been exposed to higher pressure. Hope this helps. Geoff.

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 13:00

Cheers Geoff



Will ask all the questions before he does the job.



Doc

Dawnie1


Joined: 27/09/2008
Posts: 217

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 13:15

We had this done last year, from memory paid about the same but was told that we may need new hot water tank, but he would see first. Well under pressure the existing tank sprung a leak so that was an additional cost. It is difficult to check the internal pipes though as most are under the floor.

Well worth it though, at last I can have a decent shower.

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 16:25

Thanks for the info Dawnie

steve777


Joined: 09/09/2008
Posts: 14

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 18:36

Hi Lindoc



We had this done very professionally by CSL on 0533 842 9278.They quoted free of charge and did the job the next day in 5 hrs. Very pleased.



Steve

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 18:46

yes not a bad quote new tank always if not already preasurised i will give you a quote if you like but cant see it being under this but our warranties might be better http://www.braceybuilders.com get our contacts on there

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
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Message Posted:
21/03/2009 19:43

can do the job for 900 ytl with references and guarantees 05338384636 richard

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 20:56

Thanks for the phone numbers. Doc

Cyprusactive


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
21/03/2009 21:11

To pressurise a non pressurised system is actually easy. It is correct that the hot tank may not be up to standard but as the local tanks are hit and miss at the best of times we ususally suggest that you try them any way. In 42 pressureisation jobs last year we had 6 tanks fail so I would have to say that it is worth trying ( 14% chance of rupture- greater chance than getting a kocan!). The failure of a tank here, if roof mounted is not as serious as in the UK with a tank in the loft with pasterboard ceilings etc.. Unfortunately we get called out after people have had a budget job done. Burst pipe in the floor or wall costs a great deal to remedy. We have just been called to a job by someone who had a job done by someone already recommmended on this posting who had pressurised their system. Pipes under the floor had burst as the system had not been tested first. There was an over sized pressure release valve valve fitted and the electrics ..were not earthed. Good value wasn't it.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
21/03/2009 21:40

not great advice if you dont mind me saying not constructive or cost effective

Cyprusactive


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Message Posted:
21/03/2009 21:43

We do not quote without seeing the job. There maybe other factors, for example older single story propertioes may just have blocked pipes which need blowing through. Are the pipes metal or plastic? What sized pump is required?

I am afraid you get what you pay for. We guarantee our work and pay tax, social pensions and issue proper faturas ( receipts). Call John on Cyprus Solutions on 0533 836 7094.

Regards

Nick

'Mr Fixit'

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
21/03/2009 21:52

so do we and the quote requested was to presurise a system had another enquiry been made i would have answered accordingly so lets not fall out john lol

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 10:23

Cyprusactive thanks



Are you saying I should get it pressure tested first. If so would this not also blow out any weak pipes, Leading to the same repair. The house is just under 4 years. The guy who gave the original quote never went up on the roof, He had done the same job to the same type of house around the corner last year. I have since spoken to the owner who was pleased with the job, said there were a couple of leaks but the guy sorted them out. Now getting confused Doc

Anthony


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 10:58

I understand that this CSL chap goes around pretending that he is Cyprus Solutions. In fact there was a post on another thread a few weeks back with someone complaining about the poor standard of work. He thought that Cyprus Solutions had done the work but that wasn't the case. It was CS Limited pretending to be them.

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 11:05

Cheers



So who's who in the plumbing game out there, still confused, Doc

Anthony


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Message Posted:
22/03/2009 11:12

lindoc



You should be confused as there is at least one person on here pretending to be his own customer.

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 12:25

split personality maybe

Anthony


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Message Posted:
22/03/2009 12:41

Duplicitous might be more apposite.

Geoff1131


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Posts: 276

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 12:48

lindoc, could i just give you a word of advise? If your neighbour has had his system done by your plumber and he is happy, you say the guy found some pipe leakage after he had done the job, and repaired them, then i would go with the original plumber, i myself am a plumber, had my own business in the uk for over 15 years, so i know how many experts there are in this field, i have been in cyprus since last june and i have met some of the ' experts' here. Go with someone who has been recommended.

lindoc


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 13:04

Geoff

my very thoughts, Cheers thanks to all for the advice, Doc.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
22/03/2009 21:37

i am a plumber also and have been for 26 years 3 of those in cyprus i agree with anthony and geoff use someone on recomendation good luck

Cyprusactive


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
22/03/2009 22:16

More than once we have been asked to quote for a job and not got the job only to have a call some weeks later asking for our 'free survey' to sort out the problem only to find that a cheaper job has not worked or failed. A couple in Dogankoy had a pump failure and commented to the person that turned up from a cowboy outfit that even with the previous pump the pressure was not that good. He fitted, a very powerful pump which had 3.8 bar on the gauge. It burst a pipe under the floor, this was not covered as it was 'an existing fault' and they should contact their builder! Our estimate has been 70Ytl dearer and they now have a bill for probably 2,500 Ytl for the repairs. Writing the Mr Fixit page in Cyprus Today I try to steer a line between our commercial interest and a reflection from the numerous calls and problems people face. Just today an email, a hot tank fitted two years ago had burst - called the supplier and they said that was about normal! Rubbish.

Regards

Nick

Mr Fixi

kibsolar


Joined: 14/09/2008
Posts: 552

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 16:20

lindoc, sorry iam late...i guess that non of the guys here are seriously planning to install you a proper system.

just a good reliable booster pump with all safety equipment, proper "stop press" or expansion tanks will cost you at least 600 -700 TL without installation. for 900 you will get surely one of these galvanized and painted, inside rosty tanks? bon appetite!

fact is: i didnt see one good system, never mind who installed it.

if you dont plan a solar system, then have a gas instant heater. no need for a tank and pressure resistant.

if you plan to have a solar system, get a good one, the stainless steel tank is included.

but not for 900TL :-(

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 16:28

Please do not confuse CS Ltd with Cyprus Solutions. The genuine article is John and Nick at Cyprus Solutions, all others being pale immitations hoping the similarity in name will win them work on the back of CS's reputation for 1st class work at competitive rates.

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 16:45

how long will it take you to decide on this simple job is this going on for another week or more

kibsolar


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Posts: 552

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 18:33

because it is not that easy?