The war on Terror in Afganistan

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 05:44

These are the fatilities by European countries in Afganistan.

Why is it that Great Britian bears the greatest cost both in lives and financial contributions. The benifits (arguable) are reaped by all european countries, why is it that it always Great Britain gets the pain.

If the European countries both new and old are real members of the club then lets see a little more involvement from them.

UK: 152

Germany: 31

France: 27

Spain: 25

Denmark: 23

Netherlands: 18

Italy: 13

Poland: 9

Romania: 9

Czech Republic: 3

Estonia: 3

Norway: 3

Hungary: 2

Portugal: 2

Sweden: 2

Finland: 1

Latvia: 1

Lithuania: 1

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 08:06

Cos the Uk is the idiot in the pack.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 08:39

It speaks volumes

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 08:53

To be fair it looks like Denmark has a greater loss of life relative to total population than the UK.

louthlass


Joined: 09/11/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
28/03/2009 15:58

How many other board members have got a close member of the family serving out there? I have a grandson there.

Fred8


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 01:03

UK has one of the largest contigents in Afghanistan, after the US and more importantly are concentrated by far in the most violatile areas of Afghanistan. Furthermore, most of the europeans (ISAF) do the stability operations whilst the Americans do counter-insurgency (CT). However, the Brits also try to get involved in CT operations unlike the other europeans. One other factor, I believe (and this a personal opinion), is that the Brits attract extra attention of the Afghans because of their past historical record in Afghanistan I believe the British causlties would have been far higherthan what it is today had it not been the long and hard experience of the British forces in past insurgencies.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 13:22

Perhaps if they got rid of the paper thin Landrovers and gave the ladfs some prope protection our casualties would be less.

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 21:46

Coachie I agree 100% with you, my Son served in Afghan last year, he was told a couple of weeks ago his friend was killed in a roadside bomb only days before, my heart goes out to all relatives and friends of fallen loved ones and comrades, I know it is on the cards for my lad to go back there again in the near future and I dread it. But he has joined up and must do his duty, it is unfair though that British and American troops seem to be the only ones commited to the job.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 21:49

always been the same mindy , thats why we dont all speak german ///////////

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 22:40

look at france it cant even make up its mind if its in nato or not in nato! never mind it fighting in afganastan what will it do if we are attacked by russia in the future? i know hold its hands up and say WE ARNT WITH THE BRITS AND YANKS!

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 891

Message Posted:
29/03/2009 23:15

ethnically cleansed ! waw i get a hard on when i hear those words

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
30/03/2009 01:13

COACHIE,msg 7. I was up on the Catterick garrison last week,with my lad (LCP, REME mechanic) just to see him off.He flew out to Canada for three months on tank maneuvers last Monday.

The point i am making is he pointed to scores of old trucks at Catterick,they looked ancient,However he said he had been testing a brand new heavily armoured vehicle,he also said he drove it practically submerged.Explained the vehicle is awesome.Lets hope this type gets deployed.



Very best wishes to you.REGARDS PETE

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
30/03/2009 01:21

Mindy msg8,hope you are well today.100% respect to your son for serving his country,sorry the hear about his friend.



Regards Pete.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
30/03/2009 14:38

we have always been to cost conscious when it comes to the right equipment for our troops.Too much spent on advanced technology weapons for he air forc and navy when it more should be spenton the guys on the ground who actually doing the fighting.Compare ourtroop transports and personel protection equipment to the other nations out there adn we do not fare very well at all.They are now only bringing out better gear after The failings in Iraq.Bit like closing the gate after the horse has bolted.Lets hope it gets there PDQ for ourlads sakes..

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
30/03/2009 16:55

Brits like being there. We have never been backward in stepping forward and getting in a scrap. If there isn't one going, we make one of our own. We don't lose many of the wars that we get in and that really hacks most other Europeans off. Good enough reason on its own!

My son has done a tour in Musa Qala, Helmand Prov., and can't wait to go back for a few more Taliban scalps.