Im on my soap box again sorry

Lilli



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 00:10

I have had a phone call tonight from an amercian gentleman. He heard I care for animals and asked if I could home an 8 week old brown femail pointer. This was found in the Bellapais are. Its chances are slim as it could be put down tomorrow. He has taken in 5. As you know I am looking after Max who is getting better bt still not right and I have Oscar my lovely kitten. Plus 4 at home. We have managed to get DCs little find fostered than you spider.If anybody can help could you please ring Herbert on 0533 8329728 or me 0533 8336911 . Thank you xxx

Lilli



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 00:16

sorry me again forgot to say he has tried KAR bt to no avail as we all know they are full. Please try to help him xxxx

boglefan



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Posts: 511

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 00:24

Liz, (ask Nurseawful) I am in the UK but she knows how I feel about Max and why but over the last few days I would have been where you are, Sorry so sad that yet another animal is in dire straights. Will find a way through Chris to send a contribution to help with Max. Please as he fills out and comes healthy put more photos on the Forum.

scruffdog


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 742

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 08:58

I love animals have 3 rescues myself, but if there is a chance she can be put down humanely, let it be. There are too many dogs and cats here.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 09:17

RE msg 4, scruffdog: I agree - but let's try it one more day. All concerned: keep this message on top of the forum. You never know.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:00

Don't get angry when you've finished reading this, please.



1: The situation re: dogs will not improve.

(2: Worst scenario: Lilly becomes an unofficial KAR dependance.)

3: KAR cannot take in more dogs (cats?).

4: The KAR policy doesn't seem to be to put down dogs after a certain time. (If this is the case: I disagree).

5: I don't know any vet here wanting to put down a "healthy" dog. (Physically healthy, yeas, but what about the circumstances in which they have to live?).

6: Daisy Dukes and her helpers do a fine job (the fostering plan, read elsewhere on this board), but what if a fostered dog doesn't find a home after 2, 3, 6 months?

7: My idea about a (sad) solution: let's talk to the TRNC Government* and ask for cooperation. If nobody wants to do it: maybe vets in the quarantine center in Lefkosha can put dogs to sleep.



* I do understand that the "dog problem" is not a TRNC priority - we cannot blame the TRNC officials.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:02

If I can find some expats and preferably one or two Cypriot Turks, I'm prepared to form a small committee and try to convince the TRNC government to help find a (sad) solution.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:08

i would willing join you DC xx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:24

RE msg 8, Lilli: That makes two. In other words: back to the top.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:30

Dc you can certainly count me in.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:52

Slightly off-thread:

An importer friend has 50 cans of 1250g Otto beef flavoured dog food he can't sell. The labels have been water damaged making them unfit for sale to shops etc.

These cans normaly(?) sell for 3.5TL and he will accept 1.75TL a can to get rid of them.

Buyer collects.

nurseawful



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Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 10:57

message 11

Surely if your friend can't sell them he should give them away to someone who can collect or to KAR or Lilli.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:00

RE msg 11, TRNCVaughan: (...) These cans normaly(?) sell for 3.5TL and he will accept 1.75TL a can to get rid of them. (...)

=> Your post started excellent, Vuaghan... But the third line makes me think we'd better wait till one day after the selling date... He can't sell 'em then, gives them away and the dogs don't care a woof...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:02

Typo, sorry: Vuaghan = Vaughan

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:08

msg 12

He is a business man, not a charity, and needs to cover his costs, I assume.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:13

RE msg 15, TRNCVaughan: (...) He is a business man, not a charity, and needs to cover his costs, I assume. (...)

=> How much very positive publicity would this businessman get if he... Worth a lot more than circa 85 TL, I reckon! Just a suggestion, Vaughan!

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:25

He is a wholesaler who sells to TC shops. How much do you think he cares about PR?

paddywack


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Posts: 959

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:32

If he is a wholesaler what did a load of near out of date cans cost him.Like most business men he only cares about his back pocket.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:36

RE msg 17, TRNCVaughan: (...) He is a wholesaler who sells to TC shops. How much do you think he cares about PR? (...)

=> No comment... Back to the top.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:39

He is a business man - the cans are not out of date.

This isn't about his generosity, or lack of it. It's about the generosity of someone buying this dog food and donating it to KAR. And before you ask, I have 2 rescue dogs of my own. Maybe someone who can't take a dog in, for whatever reason, but wants to help might like to do their bit....

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:50

TRNCVaughan: No offense was meant. I just tried to get a free lunch (for some dogs)...

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 11:59

DC,



No offence (offense is the USA spelling of my language ) taken.

The dogs will get their free lunch, if someone buys this dog food for them. You rightly said we are only talking about 85TL here - about what many people will spend on a night out for 2. Can't someone go without and let the dogs eat instead?

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 345

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 12:01

Yes I'm in too. Really need the Government to get a handle on this as we seem to have new dogs and cats arriving daily at our house.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 12:04

RE msg 22, TRNCVaughan: (...) No offence (offense is the USA spelling of my language) (...)

=> That's why my browser (including an US English spellchecker) didn't alarm me! I apologi(s)(z)e, Vaughan...



Back to the top.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 12:44

Apology not needed but accepted.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 13:39

RE msg 6: anyone else interested? Back to the top.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 13:39

And don't forget to read msg 1!

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 14:29

I will buy the dog food Vaughan and donate it to Lilli if she can pick it up . And to use as she feels fit , i am not in nc at present but will be from the 8th oct . Can somebody pay for me ? , { i'm good for it honestly } or if i can send him a cheque or a money order , please advise

Simbas

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 15:02

RE msg 28, simbas: (...) Can somebody pay for me? (...)

=> Will be done, simbas. Give me a call (05338645433) and see you for coffee at Guido's when you're here?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 15:05

There is a lot of food now: the mission of this thread is almost completed... READ MSG 1. Back to the top.

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 15:06

Bless you Hans , thank you very much , you are very kind .

See you very soon , thanks again Pat

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 15:27

On my way now to "The Hut" (to collect the two beers I won predicting the outcome of Scotland-Holland - do you read this, George..?) so one more time: back to the top.

daisy dukes


Joined: 06/09/2008
Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 15:33

Count me in too Hans...sorry not replied sooner...been kinda busy.



DD

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 16:30

Hi Simbas what a very kind thing to do. Thank you and DC.Little message for DC. The little puppy has been back to the vets again today for another injection. What a difference 3 days have made to here. She is so beautiful and so alive and so hungry.All is well xx

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 17:45

Simbas is a trnc treasure

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 18:22

Sorry Simbas i didnt see this thread soon enough,happy to go halves with you if you wish,i'm over next week and can drop my half in Guidos to Lilli, let me know if your happy with this. sporty.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 19:48

That's ok Sporty , You can put some money in the donation box at Guido's if you are happy to do so , that way they will have a little extra . Do you think that is ok ?. Thanks for the offer it was really kind .

Have a nice w/e , Simbas

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 20:17

=> All posts in this thread (re msg 6) are read, posts with names taken, all looks well, OK ladies, we are going to do it.



=> P.S. Lilli: Vaughan W. told me to contact him Monday (re: canned food). I'll keep you informed. You and Guido have a nice and very busy week end!



=> RE: msg 36, sporty: well done, Mark!

sporty


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Posts: 685

Message Posted:
11/09/2009 20:18

Hi Simbas Ok,thats fine,i will be popping in for my first meal at Guido's next week,i'm happy to put some funds in their collection box. x

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 20:54

Back to the top. Time is running out for the dog in msg 1.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
11/09/2009 22:14

Time is running out for the dog in msg 1. Back to the top.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
12/09/2009 01:17

I thank yo ALL BUt we do have to consider this poor soul We all do our bit and all you that know me know what i do/ I have spoken with Hans tonight we are moving forward x

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
12/09/2009 09:13

At least one more time: bttt! Most important part of this thread: message 1.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
12/09/2009 16:06

I have had a message from te gentleman today. He is paying for him to be cared for for 5 days. in the hope someone ill take this little dog xx

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
12/09/2009 17:51

Firstly I just want to say what a fantastic job all of you do trying to help these poor animals but I also have to say that it is very very unfair of this "gentleman" in Bellapais to put the onus on Lilli for trying to re-home this poor dog. What is he going to do after the 5 days are up?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 17:40

Hi joandjelly. I do not know this man but a friend of ours passed on my info in the hope I could help him. He called into the restaurant but sadly I was out walking Max. I will call him tomorrow to see what his intentions are xx

halffull


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 18:25

You do a wonderful job Lilli, but it does seem to be getting overhelming, with so many strays about.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 18:32

I know halffull it gets so hard. The last one has really upset me. He is so sad. Today I made the mistake of letting him run off the lead and threw a stick. He was terrifed.I guess he was not only starved but badly beaten. I am determined to get him fit and well and smiling xx For this reason I cant take any more

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 19:07

Hiya again just to let you know the puppy has a new home. Berty will have a new home thisweek and Max once I have him fit well and happy has a potential home. God I hate to see them go but its cruel of me not to xxx

everon


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 956

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 21:29

lilli you are an angel xx

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 21:40

Hi everon Not really just someone who cares. Just got back in from feeding and walking MAX. then had another call from this man to see if can help. He is bringing a photo in tommorow so I will call Keith to post it and see what we can do. Everon Im so disturbed about the state of max and the way he just appeared that I need to concetrate on him. I made more progress tonight with him. Told him to hold his head high and he is now taking notice. He keeps putting his leg over my arm so as not to leave him. I am determined to get that boy so well. He has cost me a fortune this week with varoius medications etc but hey its a life saved. He will not be back on the streets thank you xxxx anyway

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 22:02

Hi again Liz. I am so pleased that Max is making progress (slowly, but surely). It did upset me that he seemed disturbed at the appearance of a stick. He will need a lot of TLC in the future. I will be sure to come along and either make a contribution or bring you some food or whatever you need. Would you like me to try and get a couple more of the 'soft leads'? Anything we can do. By the way, do you think that animals have an instinct?

A friend of mine, many years ago, took on a collie which was rescued (by a member of the public) from a travellers camp. On the first visit to the vet, the poor animal had dozens of breaks and fractures which had not been properly treated and had not healed correctly. It took her months and months of patience to gain the poor dog's trust, but it paid off and dear old Meggie passed away a year or so ago from old age. You keep up the good work. When I win the lottery we'll be OK!!



With much love to you both

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 22:27

Hiya Jeaanie I really do beleive that they do have an instinct. The way he was just there in a split second was just so amazing. Nobody waked by me and a dog didnt walk past me but I turned around and there he was slumped like he was dead. He is on the mend but very fearful even of a sweeping brush. We are making progress but i am finding it so hard. he loves guido but turns to me for reassurance. I hAve him on Imodium now as everything goes through him/ Iwilll win > He loves me and thats what matters now at this stage . We both love him and with the strenght of both of s in one week we have got him on his legs now running. Last two days we changed his diet to chicken and rice or lamb. He is better fed than me but his need is greater than mine. Jeannie you know me I will change him. He is going nowhere only to a good home when he isready. He may be physologially damaged but we will get him over his fears. love to you both also xxxxxxx

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/09/2009 13:24

To simbas and Lilly: The dog food is picked up and paid for in Girne. My wife will deliver "the merchandise" this afternoon at Lilly's place in Alsancak. Enjoy your meal(s), Max!

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
14/09/2009 16:52

Hi DC. Its all be dropped off thank you so muuch. There is such a lot. No more hungry dogs for a while. Simbas will email you. The little puppy in question still needs a home by Wednesday please. I have a photo but do not know what to do to get it on here. xxx

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/09/2009 08:37

Please can anybody take this beautiful puppy. Time is running ot. Please call me on 05338336911. Thank you xx

Lilli



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Message Posted:
15/09/2009 22:35

BACK TO THE TOP PLEASE PLEASE sorry didnt realise caps were on but this is desperate Poogle can you help Lina can you please xxxxx

jfoggy


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Message Posted:
15/09/2009 23:08

Back to the top.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
15/09/2009 23:18

we have a home thank you god xxxx She now has a name BArbie yeaH i KNOW XX

bar8.8


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Posts: 333

Message Posted:
16/09/2009 00:11

LOL

Barbie is a great name and has the word Bar in it

as the new proud owners of her we await her arrival tomorrow night to our home

we already have a 4 year old Cypriot pointer and a 7 week old English Setter, let ME hope this is our last addition to the family

Lilli.........no more photos to be shown to H please! He simply could not say no to those eyes



Great meal, lovely and relaxing night

Thank you and sweet dreams to you both



Sabena xxxxxx

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/09/2009 00:21

Sabena I cant thank you enough.Eyes are strange the show s light and darknes pain and sorrrow happiness and joy but we have to read them. I just thank my god H read those eyes. Thank you from the bottom of my heart and from my eyes xxxxxxxxx

bar8.8


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Posts: 333

Message Posted:
16/09/2009 00:45

Our pleasure!!!

already posted her pic on my facebook so my kids can see the new addition to our family!

getting ever so excited and told Lady (our 8 week old English Setter) and Sooty (my 4 year old Cypriot Pointer)all about her. Sooty seemed less than impressed

Another ankle biter!



LOL



Night

xx

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/09/2009 00:54

Oh my love we have these problems. In=m told daily I do this to replace my grandkids. What do THEY know. nothing. Never in Gods earth can I replace them. I just care xx