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flightholiday


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Flights 2009 / 2010 Turkey TRNC UK etc



This is a new thread to get the help and information moving on flights to and from North Cyprus and Turkey for the rest of 2009 and 2010



It carries on from Flights 2008 / 2009 where I have tried to post other travel news too. http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/3423.asp



I hope all the postings going back to flights 2007 & flights 2007/2008 have proved useful to you. As you know we specialise in North Cyprus and Turkey but also sell holidays, flights and travel services from Egypt to Peru and more.



Tom

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An information request regarding Turkish arlines and their flights from the UK where you change flights on the way to Ercan North Cyprus in Istanbul.



I asked one of the leading Turkish flight consolidators the following questions (beware Cknowing airlines these could change in hours):



1] If the aircraft inbound is delayed are they likely to hold the ongoing flight back for a short while? i.e. MAN IST ECN

2] If the client misses the transit flight will they put them on the next one?

3] If the next flight is next day and it is the airlines fault do they provide hotel & transfer?

4] If customers fault they have missed the onward flight I assume they have to pay for any accommodation etc and if the price is low maybe their flights too?



According to our flights consolidator for Turkish Airlines Answers on questions 1-4 were yes



Not good for you on question 4.



Question 5 To follow.......



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Cont from Msg 3 Re Turkish Airlines ............



Question 5 If the client is not able bodied what assistance can they get through transit in IST to make sure they can get the onward flight?



Answr: If they are disabled then a wheel chair or alternatively they can pay to have an assistant.



If you need crutches you would do well to ask for wheelchair assistance but you have to be seen to have good reason by the aieline staff (airlines pay extra for these services in most airports).



With these and any answers they can change almost at a whim and should always be checked before you travel (with your agent or the airline). Each airline has different rules and if you buy budget or tour operator (seats they can have dfferent rules too).



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Not the best news but it gives an indication of why travel may become more expensive to you:





The above was from a "news exclusive" from travelmole



.....s considering various options after a year without growth and the prospect of a tough 2010. However, he stressed that job cuts were not on the agenda. Cosmos and Avro employ around 240 people, whilst sister Monarch Airlines has over 2,000 staff.

“At the group we’re looking across the board at how we can reduce costs a........



The travel trade this year has dropped over 13% and that means to keep planes flying costs have to be looked at and likewise what you the customer has to pay.



Tom

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News from Pegasus for booking agencies such as IAH:



UNACCOMPANIED MINORS



Dear Agencies,



In our domestic and international flights:



Minor passengers between 7 (included) and 13 (excluded) may travel alone. Our company will be glad to offer accompanying services for minors of 7 to 12 years old, having to travel alone. As the number of unaccompanied minors travelling via our flights is limited, it is essential to notify the request for accompaniment, at the time of the booking.



Cont..........



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....... continuation from Msg 5



ASSISTANCE FOR UNACCOMPANIED MINORS:



Unaccompanied minors may only travel subject to the permission of the parent or the legal guardian. The unaccompanied minor shall be taken to the aircraft by the ground personnel at the departure time, and shall be handed over to the cabin supervisor. During this procedure, the parents or the legal guardian of the unaccompanied minor is/are required to wait at the airport. At the destination point, the unaccompanied minor shall be transferred to the ground personnel by the cabin supervisor. The ground personnel shall transfer the unaccompanied minor to the individual authorised to receive him/her.



******************

The procedures are complex (as they always are for minors).



You will need to advise at time of booking NOT LATER you will be charged by Pegsaus for this service and probably by agents too as this involves a lot of work and knowledge.





Cont..........



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....... continuation from Msg 6



The accompaniment service must be requested simultaneously with the booking for the flight.

The request has to be issued latest 24 hours prior to the flight. (Better allow at least 36/48 hours.)

The travel form for unaccompanied minors must be filled out by the parents at check in (so they must be present).

Exceptions:

Travels with stop over's (transits/transfers)

E'tickets with unconfirmed flights,

Unaccompanied minors are not allowed for travel in itineraries with other airlines.

When to apply to the check-in counter :

The Unaccompanied Minor Travel Authorisation Certificate is filled out, and signed by the parent or the legal guardian.

For Domestic flights allow 2 hours prior to the flight, and three hours prior to the flight for international flights.



This has been mainly been taken from a notice to Pegasus agents received today.



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jUST LOOKED AT YOUR WEB SITE NOTHING FROM ERCAN - UK AND ONLY LONDON - ERCAN WHAT ABOUT THE MANCHESTER FLIGHTS!!



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Christmas 2010 I will be in Paris but would like to be in NC for New Year, would it be possible for me to book a flight from Paris to Ercan or would I have to travel from Paris to Istanbul and then a flight to Ercan?



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Top ten Msg 8



Email me a number to call - Ercan Manchester London Birmingham Dublin Germany - all no problem in either direction as well as Turkey and lots of other destinations.



or try over skype (look for IAH or flightholiday)



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Woodspeckie



Most sorry to say at present that is tha case (we can help) but dont forget that for winter 2010 there are not many flights available yet



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As long as I know it is possible to get from Paris to Ercan that is OK I will check next year. We have been asked to go to Paris for Christmas with our Family but we would miss our month in NC very much especially the New Year.



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Msg 11 Sorry I did not make myself clear currently through Istanbul only.



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you can fly of course from paris to ercan but : you will have to stop to istanbul and get out of the plane to take an other one - we used to do it with tukish airlines - very xpensive) if not fly from paris direct to larnaca - cheaper with cyprus ailines or look with lufthansa airlines - paris-frankfurt or munich one stop of an hour or 2 and then larnaca - cheaper way of all - if you take yor ticket in advance yo can do it through intenet without any problem -



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Hi Sylvie,



There are many other ways to do the route too. Turkish sometimes can sometimes do some excelent deals. Maybe by then Pegasus will be doing that route to Turkey, who knows?



Not everyone wants to do Larnaca. If you do your purchase on the internet you normally go to airlines direct whoi tend not to be over helpful and you might miss out on some great consolidators deals as airlines dont combine flights which is what consolidators can do.



Always be aware when buying less expensive tickets in advance that they usually can't be changed or cancelled in any way. Cheapest way is to be ecologic and don't fly at all (not much good for me).



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i nevercomplain about turkish airlines we had to go through it since 1975 UNTIL 2003 - i neve take cheap airlines - ever since CYPRUS AIRWAYS and LUFTHANSA - i only try to give informations about what i know because i went through it and i live in france - agency or intenet is the same for me - never had a problem



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Sabiha Gokcen Airport - there is due to be a new international terminal opening on the 9th November.



We have been given to understand by Focus on Travel News - "The new terminal will multiply airport’s annual capacity to a 25 million passenger mark. It will provide direct employment opportunities to over 1,500 people and indirectly to many more through outsourcing. The airport currently handles 5 million passengers annually."



It is hoped that Turkish Airlines will start operating from the Terminal to various European destinations.



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I have just heard that there will be a first come first served special for Christmas 2009 flights on Pegasus against one of the ATOL holders who we deal with - I should find out more fairly soon.



The rates will be well below the current Pegasus price - if any of you are interested let me know as there will not be huge numbers of seats available.



Tom

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PS I will publish more as I know it.



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There are some excellent deals direct from British Airways in Jan / Feb to/from Larnaca

Try doing a search here

http://www.lincguide.com



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Hi Petez - Msg 18



Anyone can do a deal in January and February the flights are always available and then you can fly to Ercan directly possibly for no more or less than Laranca



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Msg 17 - the flight prices are £320.00 per traveller inc tax return - These seats are ATOL bonded



STN to ECN December 18-19-20-21-22-23



ECN to STN January 01-02-03-04-05-06



Call Tom for your option ASAP on 0871 855 2925 or Skype us on flightholiday



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The price seems about the price for similar dates - what is the benefit?



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I wouldn't be too happy if I had paid for the ad at the top and flightholiday got all the free advertising on this post.



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Hi Cyprus Quest the price this morning for my client who triggered this for flights 26th out 3rd return is 355.86 so 320 feels just about respectable.



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Hi Tom, i think its swings and roundabouts, some dates you win some dates you lose !!

eg - Fly out 23rd and return 6th is £253.86



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Sorry that should be £255.86



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Hi Chris (Cooper)



Which route Larnaca or Ercan ours is to and from Ercan.



Exactly right it is not only dates but even when you book can change up or down by the minute too. This is why we always ask for names and take options.



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Hi Tom, the one i mentioned in message 24 is flying from Stansted to Ercan with Pegasus. I know exactly what you mean thou, they are changing all the time.



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Cooper Msg 24 / 27 - our theory is proven now 23rd to 6th £235.86 half an hour and they might be £250.86 again



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The possible reason for the Pegasus price changes are that they offer (or did when I booked) options to anyone using the internet site. So if they are on the cusp of a next level price and someone takes an option the price seems to go up. I assume that if the option is not taken and the seats are released with no change then the seat price seem to go down.



I do not know of any other airline that offers options to all over the internet, it would be much easier and cheaper for us if they did not do this.



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Colly - we know the reason and other airlines and consolidators often do offer this type of option to agents like us but not often to the public. Some airlines though seem to put the released seats back in the system at higher prices.



I doubt that it would be cheaper for you if you buy direct from Pegasus if they did not return the seats at the good prices - it would make my job as an agent easier though and I could offer my clients better services.



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Watch out make sure you are well insured for travel (including SAF Scheduled Airline Failure)



From one of the travel infomails I recieve daily:-



The rate of travel company insolvencies was 13% higher in the first nine months of this year than the same period in 2008.



This is despite the collapse of XL last year.



The figure comes from accountants PrecewaterhouseCoopers, which warned of a potential ‘time bomb’ for struggling firms.



+ Ireland’s biggest operator Budget Travel went to the wall in the last couple of days!



One of our insurers does cover you for SAF if you need it.



Tom



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How high a chance for the airlines or tour companies who service North Cyprus falling down this big black hole?



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Not good news but this will probably affect most of you:



Consumer Protection Group

ATOL Crisis Management

FAILURE OF CUSTOM FLIGHTS.CO.UK LIMITED T/A CUSTOM FLIGHTS - ATOL 9186

Date of Failure 24 November 2009

Custom Flights.co.uk Limited has ceased operating and all licensable forward bookings will

therefore not be honoured. -- If you had a flight inclusive booking with Custom Flights.co.uk Limited you may be able to claim a refund of the money you paid.



Above is from the CAA



Current ATOL failures are one a month the worst this year was April with four. Airlines are another problem and if you book on them directly the rules are different also.



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(03 December 2009)

The Air Travel Trust fund (ATT) has warned it may not refund customers who booked their flight as part of an non-ATOL protected dynamic package in the event of a supplier failure.



The ATT fund accrues holidaymakers' ATOL Protection Contributions (APC), and stands behind the ATOL scheme. Its primary function is to protect consumers in the event of a tour operator going out of business. The fund will also be used to refund passengers with forward bookings and repatriate passengers stranded abroad.



In a statement following the collapse of seat-only operator Custom Flights, the ATT said travel agents who sell flights in combination with hotels or other travel services without an ATOL licence were acting "unlawfully".



In future, the ATT may refer customers back to these agents to claim their refund when a supplier goes under.



The above has come from a reliable news source "dynamic packaging" is when you book two seperate things yopurself or through an ag.....



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From Msg 34 .... ough an agent and it is not what is called in the package travel regulations a tour operator package.



In other words book it yourself or as two things through an agent and you might not have cover (check your travel insurance).



Also make sure you have sufficient travel insurance cover for SAF



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You started talking about minors earlier in this thread. Can I ask a quick question - my step-kids want to come to visit at the New Year. One is 15, the other 13. I'm assuming they're classed as minors? They live with their mum. My friend has said that she'd be happy to bring them out with her to visit us. Is that allowed, even though my friend isn't a blood relative? Or, does she need a letter or something from their mum to carry with them?



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Pippie,



Different airlines different rules (lets face it in more than half the world 13 is classified as an adult).



As a principle I would anticipate there would be no problems I think that most airlines would allow the 13 year old to travel by themselves.



You would do well to check with the agent who sold the tickets and they should confirm with the airline - they are responsible for the transaction, passengers and should ber able to get chapter and verse.



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Thanks for that. Tickets are not booked yet, they've only just decided! So thought I'd ask the question before starting to look around.



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Come to us at IAH we will look after you and them. Please take it off board - I do not transact business in open forums as it is nobodies business but yours.



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UK hit worst in travel decline - which is why the cost on flying is rising (fewer bums on seats).



The following is an extract from a trade report received today:

Outbound trips taken by Europeans dropped by seven per cent, while their spending when away was down by 15 per cent, according to the newly published ITB World Travel Trends Report.



Long-haul travel fell by 12% and short-haul trips by six per cent.



There were a record number of last minute bookings as the travel industry was particularly hard hit by the effects of consumer insecurity.



The number of people booking their holiday just one week before travelling rose ......... cont



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cont........ rose by 18%.



By contrast, the number of reservations made in the period from one week to one month before the start of a trip fell by five per cent. Bookings made from one month to three months before travelling went down by 13%, and for three months and more by 12%.



Europeans are also less willing to make a firm decision regarding their travel intentions in 2010 than they were a year ago, the study shows.



More than two-thirds (68%) of those polled in October said they would travel at least as often as they did in 2009, down from 80% at the same last year.



Travel activity declined most in the UK (minus 15%), followed by Russia (minus 12%) and in Sweden (minus ten per cent).



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We predicted this over 24 months ago and now find people making very complex and expensive bookings rather than 18 months in advance just 7/10 days in advance it needs very fast responses from IAH and our suppliers.



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The following is an extract from an article received today re ATOL and other bonding to protect you as passengers:



according to consumer watchdog Which? Holiday.



A 'flight plus' element is to be suggested in an effort to close the passenger protection loophole when different travel components are booked together with a flight.



Responding to the revamp of the system announced by transport secretary Lord Adonis, the body’s head of research Rochelle Turner said: “The ATOL scheme in its current form provides great protection for anyone taking a package holiday or booking through an ATOL bonded agent.



“But a significant number of people book hotels from direct links on airline websites, or use online travel agents to book their own package, and could be left without the peace of mind that they are protected should something go wrong.





“While it’s great that the Government is taking steps to make the scheme relevant to today’s holidaymaker, we are conc..... cont Msg 43



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Cont from Msg 42



concerned it doesn’t go far enough to ensure that all travellers are equally protected.



“The proposed ‘flight plus’ category needs clarification to prevent consumers being left open to loopholes which may leave them stranded should something go wrong.”



--------- further down the article it says --------



people are booking hotel accommodation and then booking their flights through a link on the hotel website.



This would not be covered under the proposed changes to the ATOL scheme,



--------- this goes on but essentialy it says unless your agent is ATOL bonded they are not giving cover and even then that also depends on how tickets are issued, if it is an ATOL confirmation invoice etc etc.



Tom



PS I hope to have some good news on holidays to North Cyprus very soon - probably some of the best prices for 2010 are about to come out with hotels such as Vuni, Colony, Riverside, Nostalgia PiaBella and Bogaz all ATOL bonded packages



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Come on what is the good news?



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Cyprusquest:



I hope by Monday to have some excelent deals on our web site from Jewels of the Med.



For example:

Pia Bella Hotel including flights and transfers for 7 nights from (prices on some dates will vary in these months)

£359.00 March

£395.00 April & May

£401.00 July etc.



These are from prices and based on twin / double share in B&B



I will try to publish more as I can



Tom

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Some News on Budget airlines (as if you did not know it)



Ancillary charges imposed by no frills airlines have come under fire from a consumer watchdog.

Which? Holiday claims checking a bag into the hold and using a credit card could add around 25% onto the advertised price of some tickets.

--

Jet2.com was found to add the most to the cost of a flight for the charges - £92.16 – this was an increase of just 10% on the advertised ticket price.

Easyjet consistently had the lowest luggage and card charges of the four airlinesWhich? Holiday syudied, ranging from £26 to £38 extra. But in one case this still amounted to a 17 per cent increase on the advertised price.

--

Airlines argue that they are being fairer to customers who don’t use these services. But, in reality, how many people don’t use a credit or debit card to pay for their flights, or travel without luggage?



These aren’t extra services. They are part and parcel of taking a flight.

-- Extract from "by Phil Davis"



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BA cabin crew vote on strike action to be held this afternoon



(14 December 2009)

British Airways (BA) customers will learn today if they are to face flight disruption in the run-up to Christmas when the results of a strike ballot of cabin crew are announced at 2pm.



More than 12,500 cabin crew.................



I hope not as it will also disrupt a lot of other flights over Christmas.



Tom

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"Scottish travel company Globespan has denied reports it is on the brink of financial collapse after allegedly failing to receive payments from its credit card clearance company E-Clear. "



--- This company has an ATOL and is covered for over in total over 30,000 travellers for the quarters ending December and March.



--- They have flights and holidays from Scotland to Turkey and Cyprus



--- If you have booked with them do not worry if you have an ATOL confirmation invoice and not until you hear a lot more about the state of their affairs which might be fine (the same article that I have quoted said they are have a wealthy owner). Unhappily like all news items some speculation might be involved and bad news is good for headlines (even if often not true).



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Msg 47 - this (just received) is not the news I wanted to be able to quote:



British Airways cabin crew today voted to go ahead with a strike that will hit hundreds of thousands of travellers ------------------- The first strike is set to take place on December 22 and continue to the January 2, meaning 12 days of strikes over the Christmas period.



The comments about this that were published are essentialy:

Pilots had agreed pay cuts, engineers more efficient ways of working, managers vol. redundancy - cabin crew union would not acknowledge the worst crisis in BA history.



All from a report in one of the leading Travel Magazines



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Just talking to Peter from Pegasus in the UK.



We have had a request about a 36" TV going across from UK to North Cyprus as baggage.



The answers were:

1] The airline can only take very limited responsibility and will ask you to fill out an LRT (this would apply to nearly all carriers)

2] The nature of a large screen is fragile and it might not survive the handling and flight - a few years ago you could find problems with the larger laptops and even PDA's such as a Psion in the cabin due to sharp (not large) pressure fluctuations

3] The weight of a large flat screen TV will add a lot to your baggage and the cost might be prohibitive when you think it is about £8.00 / KG

4] Most airlines would probably suggest that you sent these goods as freight. (Which we can organise - the effective price can be far lower than GBP8.00 / kg)



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Msg 48 -I am sorry to report on reliable travel industry news just in:



Scottish airline and package holiday company Globespan has entered administration.



Staff were informed of the airline's collapse this aft.......



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With all the potential disruption due to the BA strike I thought I should remind you that the following reminder from Pegasus applies to all UK airports and all airlines:



There will be no ground transportation to or from Stansted on the 25th with limited services over the Christmas and new year periods



It will not make life any easier for any travellers (nor for airport staff so be nice to them) and if you do not allow more than enough time getting to the airport and check in; the aircraft will not wait and your insurance will not cover your loss & missed flight.



At IAH we can still get some flights from Pegasus and with luck with other airlines so if you want to change from BA we are happy to try to help with options where we can.



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Just in -



British Airways strike - cancelled - High Court decision to impose an injunction.



Mrs Justice Cox at the High Court in London this afternoon.



BA challenged the ballot of its cabin crew - alleging that the process contained "serious and substantial irregularities".



The airline claimed that about 1,000 members balloted had since left the airline, their votes should not have been counted



According to one of the trade journals



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Folks,







Do not forget that Turkish Airways fly via Istanbul to Ercan six days a week from DUBLIN. You can easily access Dublin from most parts of the UK via Ryanair (yeah I know!) or Aer Lingus at a reasonable (usually) cost. Alternatively you can use ferries via Stranraer, Holyhead, or Fishguard/Pembroke.





The price of TK tickets DUB-IST-ECN is a steady €334 most of the year with occasional special offers. The lay over in IST can be a bit of a pain and expense, but the flights are well timed for connections.



Also as an alternative THY were flying from Belfast International (BFS) to Ercan with a touch and go landing in Antalya.



I have always found the service standards on TK far superior to THY and you do not find your seats occupied by 'priority' (ie. mates of the crew) passengers.



Unfortunately you cannot book these flights via the internet due to the dreaded embargo.



At least it gives people another option.



Good luck everyone!



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Dermot,



We would be happy to book clients on this but I would be careful of overselling this route there are enough travellers from Eire and Northern Ireland who are desperate for the flights to Turkey and Ercan.



Could you tell the readers the difference between TK & THY I had thought them to be Turkish Airlines. Could you also explain the embargo.



There are also regular flights with Turkish from Birmingham.



I find Turkish to give a good level of service with a smile and for an airline good food.



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Sorry flightholiday,



TK is Turkish Airlines.

THY is Cyprus Turkish Airlines.



You are correct that the Dublin Turkish flight is popular, however, they will often substitute their normal Boeing 747-800 (180+ seats) with Airbus A330 (300+ seats) depending on the rate of bookings. This is one of the reasons the price rarely changes during the year.



It is very nice to get a smile and some decent food on an airline.



THY motto seems to be - "It is a privelege for you to fly with us"



The facilities at Istanbul are also excellent. It is a pity about the 19 YTL for a beer though. I couldn't face any more than six at that price.



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Dermot, The acronims depend a little on who you talk to most peole would recognise CTA or KTHY (for THY).



Now on the CTA motto point I would agree Regarding the Belfast route that was withdrawn some long time ago as was Glasgow.



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Sorry, but THY is not CTA



THY - Turk Hava Yollari - Turkish Airlines



Regards



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Oooh! But we are a pendantic lot.



FYI 'EIRE' is only used when writing/speaking in Irish.



In English it is The Republic of Ireland.



One all I think



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Why is so much of my news dire at present?



A second Scottish travel company has collapsed.



Glasgow-based ABTA member S V International Travel Service ceased trading yesterday.



The company also had a branch in Edinburgh.



It also traded as Anglo Scottish American Travel, 1st World Travel, Air Savers, Anglo Scottish Air Savers, ASAT, Canadian Travel, Direct Flightsavers, Flightsavers, Flightsavers Direct, Kangaroo Club and World Travel.



If you need they were ABTA and had some ATOL bonding too.



I understand they may have been associated to Globespan.



Maybe I will have better news for you over the weekend or Monday.



Dream on and find a holiday in Egypt, Jordan, Turkey etc on http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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Sorry here I go again:



Allbury Travel ceases trading - It traded as Libra Holidays, Argo Holidays and Jetlife and operated air package holidays and flights out of Gatwick, Manchester, Newcastle, Birmingham and Leeds Bradford airports to Greece, Cyprus and Egypt.



Now wait for it:

It seems from the same article Allbury (well known as Libra) may have been owned through an off shore holding by the CEO of E-Clear this information was taken today from TTG



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Travel in UK.



Please allow more time than you expect much of the country is snow bound and as usual we are not well prepared for it.



It might just be thta extra 30 minutes to prepare the car that added to a slower journey might mean you miss your flights or connections and unless you have truly allowe a lot of extra time your insurance will probably not cover you. The same applies to connecting flights if your first flight leaves late and you miss the second one you have little chance of compensation. (This is why we try to keep clients on one airline all the way - they help more in times of trouble.)



From the BBC:

Eurostar passenger trains will remain suspended on Sunday because of concerns about the wintry weather.



More than 2,000 people were trapped in the Channel Tunnel for up to 16 hours after condensation caused a series of electrical failures on Friday ni......



Cont...........



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Continued from Msg 62

......ay night.



And a special Eurostar service bringing passengers back from Paris broke down near Ebbsfleet in Kent on Saturday.



The closure of the tunnel left thousands of people stranded on either side of the channel.



Calais port was also closed, causing chaos on roads around Dover and Folkestone.

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BAA Stansted advice as at 07.50 20-12-09



Stansted Airport is open and operating as normal. Further snow fall and icy conditions are expected across eastern and southern England today so passengers are therefore advised to check-in as normal and allow extra time for their journey to the airport.



The Stansted Express is currently running a reduced service.



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News just in:



Pegasus - have informed me that at present (and probably into the middle of next year) that they will not be adding the extra hold baggage charge so you can currently have moer than one per pseron and for adults and children (not infants who have no baggage allowance) your weight allowance is still 25 Kg per person



This applies to UK Ercan routes and I gues UK - SAW also.



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Message 64 - Tom, Nice that for a change you give us some better news from IAH.



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Quote from TTG.



Failed airline Flyglobespan attempted to secure a winding up order against credit card processing firm E-Clear in the final hours before the carrier went bust.



The carrier recruited law company DLP Piper to secure the order against E-Clear, which was withholding more than £30 million in payments due to Flyglobespan, according to a report in the Sunday Times yesterday.



PricewaterhouseCoopers, who are administrators for Globespan Group, are now chasing E-Clear for the money due to the airline, which is understood to be £20 million from customers who had already travelled and about £16 million from those yet to fly.



Sorry Cyprusquest not good news nor bad.



It would be nice to give good news daily maybe have a look at our flightholiday site where we have some good holiday deals to North Cyprus 2010 at http://www.flightholiday.co.uk/fh/Bargain_Holidays_North_Cyprus.php



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I have heard about the most recent flight problem on the US route - my advice be aware and make sure you allow more time at airports as every security person will be on their guard.



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Exciting news due in from Pegasus - extra flights.



Either call Alan today or tomorow or wait for me to post it on the 4th of January.



A belated happy Christmas and a fabulous 2010 to you all. from IAH Ltd



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flightholiday re holiday insurance do you do holiday insurance from trnc if so please quote 2x under 65 worldwide annual insurance .



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Are you cheaper then Manchester to Larnaca,

Paul.



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I think flightholiday is away till the 4th going by message 68.



Cheek of it I want to know the new flight news NOW!



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Happy New Year from IAH / flightholiday and my colleagues.



Sorry we have been catching up with emails so I have not looked in on Cyprus44.



Everon - could you email me details and a phone number and I will give you a call and look into it with one of our providors.



Newlad - It depends on dates etc but if it's NCyprus you fly into you save all the cost and hassles of the border crossing - again please email me with details including travellers names and then we can give you a confirmed option quote.



email address or Skype button to be found at http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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Most airports in the UK are having problems the following is from BAA updated at 09.47 06-01-10



A severe weather warning is in place across the South East of England, with snow forecast at Heathrow on Wednesday 6th January.



Stansted Airport is open and operating as normal. Is what BAA advise - but from other fairly reliable sources we understand it might be closed at present.



Weather disruption: Glasgow Airport is open. However, due to heavy snow and icy conditions across the UK, flights to and from the airport may be subject to delays and cancellations. Passengers are advised to check with their airline before travelling to the airport.



Birmingham Airport is open; however the heavy snow fall over night has led to disruption to flights, including delays and some cancellations.



The runway at Gatwick Airport is currently closed for snow clearance. We are working closely with our airline and business partners to re-open the runway as soon as it is safe to do so.



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From TDUK today -



Technology part of strict new security plan...

Full body scanners will be introduced at Heathrow Airport within three weeks, according to a report in The

Times. In addition air travellers will face more frequent, stringent searches under new security guidelines developed in response to the Christmas Day bomb plot. Sniffer dogs will be deployed and passenger behavior at airports across the UK will be carefully analysed by officials on the lookout for anything deemed ‘suspicious’.



Comment:- I suspect all main UK airports will do the same sooner rather than later



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SNOW A gentle reminder:



Please do not expect air-travel to be "normal" in the UK or Europe for at least another few days and make allowances for it.



Make sure you have enough travel insurance - some (like one of ours) includes SAF {Scheduled Airline Failure} which is even better. Have enough cash and a change of basics in your hand-baggage just in case you get delayed and need to stop over anywhere.



You would do well to give your airline and travel agent your current mobile numbers "just in case". (At IAH we ask for them.)



Make sure that you have enough clothing suitable for the weather at your desination and for any transit changes.



Travelling to your airport allow far too much time for that journey. If you hit fog on the way to Ercan snow on the way to Stansted or maybe leaves on the railway line to New York you can miss your flight and your insurance might not cover you. (The cost and chaos caused you will want to repeat.)



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From TDUK today:-

5 January 2010: Turkish Airlines signed a firm order for 20 Airbus A320 Family aircraft on 30 December 2009. The order is for a mix of A319s and A321s with exact numbers of each to be finalised shortly. The aircraft are scheduled for delivery from 2011 onwards, and will be used for expansion of domestic and regional routes.



"Turkish Airlines is one of the fastest growing European airlines and we are delighted that they continue to partner with Airbus to support their expansion" said John Leahy, Airbus Chief Operating Officer



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AT IAH / Flightholiday we like Turkish Airlines they might cost a little more as like us they give the extra service and comfort on the long journeys that we offer our clients.



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Book early as prices for travel are best when you get the early cheap deals.



Do make sure you have sufficient travel insurance and it covers for Scheduled Airline Failure (SAF) and other reasons for cancellation.



We can help you in both instances http://www.flightholiday.co.uk and e-mail or Skype us from there.



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This came to mind today as we saw the following bad news headlines come in:



'Ryanair reports €11m loss'



'BA heading for record £600m loss'



'Nextescape ceases trading'



And of course the flight prices will rise again as the passenger has to pay for increased secuirty:



'Manchester begins compulsory body scans'





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Now for some good news - the deals we have for bargain holidays to North Cyprus till the 25th of January have been extended for bookings taken before the 11th February see:



http://www.flightholiday.co.uk/fh/Bargain_Holidays_North_Cyprus.php



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RYANAIR HAS appeared in the bottom 10 of an "ethical ranking" of 581 companies, based on environmental performance, corporate social responsibility and information provided to consumers.



The ranking was compiled by Geneva-based Covalence, which measures qualitative data on 45 criteria including labour standards, waste management, social utility and human rights policy.



The company claims that its "reputation index", which is distributed by Thomson Reuters, Bloomberg and Capital IQ, is "a barometer of how multinationals are perceived in the ethical field".



Ryanair is ranked 575 on the latest list, just ahead of Occidental Petroleum, US tobacco company Phillip Morris and oil giant Chevron. At the bottom is Monsanto, chiefly known for genetically modified foods.



No surprise there then! DD



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Might be of interest some headlines received from TTG today:



'Stop BA bashing and support the airline' - The boss of a leading luxury tour operator has called on the trade to stop "BA bashing", support it through its problems - and get a better deal from the airline when recovery arrives.



Monarch Airlines boss denies turmoil - Tim Jeans has denied a string of resignations meant there was "turmoil" at Monarch



TTA deals with 'killing our cashflow' claim - The Travel Trust Association is taking steps to speed up payments to its tour operator members after complaints that delays were hitting their cashflow.



'Hybrid model is future' for airlines - Short-haul airlines expected to move towards a "hybrid" model between no-frills and full service



The above are to keep you up to date. With regard to flights to Turkey or North Cyprus the deals are still coming in on CTA Turkish and Pegasus as well as Sun Express from Germany.



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Tom, may I respectfully ask if you could start a new thread now for 2010 as it takes my computer ages to download this whole page and for me to get to the bottom. Thanks.

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joandjelly. To get to the bottom of the page quicker press the END key on your keyboard.



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I am sure you all know but the sad headlines are:



Lufthansa strike off

Pilots action called off after less than 24 hours.................



BA slams "unjustified" strike threat

"We will not allow Unite to ruin this company" -airline warns............



BA faces fresh strike threat

Cabin crew back ballot for industrial action.................



We know that CTA have their problems but if you use them instead of these seemingly unreliable European airlines maybe things will be rosier and KTHY will have a better future?



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Tom



KTHY would have a better future. If only?



They increased the seating legroom in the cabin.



The staff were more user friendly..... and smiled.



Served better food ......or none at all and lower the ticket price.



I would consider using them again. Until the above happens I shall fly into the south with the seemingly unreliable European airlines including EasyJet who in my book are far from unreliable and offer value for money.



Perhaps you could have a word with the MD of KTHY.



AP



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Melvyn



The MD of CTA would be very unlikely to listen to a British agent.



The MD of CTA (KTHY) would probably agree on many of your points but he is too high and also he would say that when their staff are being asked to take pay cuts you can only expect so much.



You have the choice of two other airlines from Ercan so little excuse for going south (Turkish and Pegasus).



From my personal experience Pegasus is better than EasyJet but that could also be something to do with their passengers on the flights I have used. Of course Turkish are even better being a world class airline but a little pricier.



IAH can happily help you with Pegasus or Turkish so try them through us http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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Msg 84 flightholiday

That was not nice having a dig about flying South they need the income from Larnaca there do they not? As their parent country is broke.



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News neither good not bad but will only interest you if you fly south or anywhere that BA goes past.

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BA cabin crew strike date delayed - from a trade bulletin today



Cabin crew in dispute with British Airways have stepped back from announcing a date for strike action.

They have called on Unite union to try and negotiate a settlement over crew cuts and changes to working arrangements.



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I'm not sure when this will start:



Visitors to US to pay at least $10 fee for ESTA



(01 March 2010)

Visitors to the US will have to pay a fee of at least $10 following the passing of the Travel Promotion Act by the US Senate.



The act, which is expected to become law within 10 days, means travellers will have to pay to complete the Electronic System for Travel Authorisation form before travelling.



It is thought the charge could be as much as $17, taking into account the cost of setting up the transactional website and credit card fees.



This is an abstract from an article in a weekly trade magazine



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Thats going to be more than a 90 day visa for a UK passport holder to Turkey and with a lot more hassle. Are we (the visiting US tourist) paying for the new American health care system?



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Picked up to day from Winnipeg Free press for Sunday night



ISTANBUL, Turkey - A fire raged through the power generator unit of Istanbul's main airport on Sunday - brought under control - official said.



There was no immediate word of injuries or the cause - flights were not affected by the blaze at Ataturk.



News channel showed thick smoke pouring out of the facility, which generates power for the airport in the event of an outage.



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CTA - I keep hearing rumours.



At present as far as I am aware they have closed some of their sales offices in Turkey and are reducing their staff they have already done so by a large percentage so as to try to become more streamlined.



Maybe at KTHY they will do a few other things to improve customer/agent support etc but they are determined to keep flying.



Support them keep flying to Ercan.



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BA - belwo is a quote from one of the regular travel broadcast I get (recd today)



BA strike beckons as talks break down

Talks between British Airways and the Unite union aimed at averting strike action by cabin crew have broken down without agreement. No further talks were scheduled to be held.

"Both parties will be reflecting on the position and the TUC will be keeping in touch but at this stage no further negotiations are planned."

BA cabin crew voted for strike action over cuts and changes to working conditions.



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News in just now on BA Strike from TTG:

British Airways cabin crew have set strike dates for seven days on March 20, 21, 22, 27, 28, 29 and 30 .



This is the part of a 700+ word article which I am sure will not interest you.



My comment - watch out for congestion and problems not just at airports where BA travel to.

So close to Easter!



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Someone just pointed out that I should say that although we can supply flights through to and from Larnaca (even with BA) we do prefer to sell you to and from Ercan in the TRNC and that we can do so.

They suggested we remind you about our web site; on where you cabn find many flights & from where you can email us or chat over Skype http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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BA strike information - the flights for the first day are published (and some others).



You all know the March British Airways 2010 strikes are on (in time for Easter). If you use this link there is info on the BA site or try to go direct.



http://www.britishairways.com/travel/home/public/en_gb?&DM1_SRC=UK|UK|TD|856059|f295f671af6840b4b1e27f2cc1bffe7c|&utm_source=TradeDoubler&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=TradeDoubler&utm_term=&utm_content=



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For those of you who dont know we understand the strike is on.

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The following is taken from the BA site - http://www.britishairways.com/travel/strike-ballot/public/en_gb?refevent=HOME_URGENT_CENTRE



British Airways cabin crew strike

Unite, the trade union that represents the majority of British Airways (BA) cabin crew, has announced its intention to take strike action on the following dates:



•20,21 and 22 and 27,28,29 and 30 March 2010



All of our flights are continuing to operate as normal up until the first day of the strike



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I'm sure there will be some updates in due course



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Pegasus - some new points some old ones too but all in information directly from Pegasus handling UK.



Check-in for International flights

Can you please ensure any information passed to your clients show check-in desks are open three hours prior to departure and please request passengers check-in as early as possible, due to the need to input API (advance passenger information) into the check-in system which does take time ....... Late arrivals may be refused check-in.



Flight designator change

Pegasus flights will now show a prefix of PC in place of H9, please ensure your paperwork reflects this change.



- More to follow maybe Monday.

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Clocks go forward tonight so 21.00 will be 22.00 in the morning.



So set your alarm for your flight to the new hours. Get up earlier to get to the airport on time for this Sunday.



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Pegasus designation change by IATA This will apply for all flights (probably from the morning of 01-04-10).



"Flight designator change

Pegasus flights will now show a prefix of PC in place of H9, please ensure your paperwork reflects this change.

"



So if you were due to fly or meet someone tomorow on flight H9501 it will now show as PC501, H9215 now will show on the boards etc as PC215 etc.



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The following information is taken from Anatolian Sky (IAH/flightholiday are one of their agents):

APIS - Advance Passenger Information System



A legal requirement for ALL passengers travelling to and from the UK on an international flight.



This page explains why you are being asked to provide your passenger information in advance of travelling



What is advance passenger information and why are you being asked to provide it?

· Advance passenger information relates to the details found on the machine readable part of your passport, which is the page including your photo. The information you are being asked to provide is:

•Full name (including any middle names)

•Date of birth

•Gender

•Passport number

•Country that issued your passport

•Date that your passport expires

•Due to anti-terrorism directives introduced by the British government to safeguard the UK against security risk it is now a legal requirement for you Cont..... Msg 100



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Cont from Msg 99 ......

•Due to anti-terrorism directives introduced by the British government to safeguard the UK against security risk it is now a legal requirement for you, the passenger, to provide your passport details prior to your travel. Provision of this information is solely the responsibility of each passenger and failure to do so will result in boarding being refused.



The information has been copied from the Anatolian site and is as up to date today as they think it might be - They like IAH are proud to be members of ASTTO - the specialists in Turkey and North Cyprus



Tom

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PS There may be more details to follow from Pegasus on this subject APIS



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With regards to the flight number change on Pegasus flights which now will be PC instead of H.......as I have already booked several flights for through out the year and all my email confirmation details of my flights show

show H501 as flight number(booked all flights last year for this year) will my flight paperwork be ok with old flight numbers on or will I have to get incontact with Pegasus to have new paperwork sent out with the new flight numbers.Many thanks for your help



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Pegasus know - I think you will not need to ask for new paperwork check with your agent.



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API will affect all international travellers more and more - you need to try to check in early to allow for the delays caused.

For more information regarding the API (Advanced Passenger Information) have a look at http://www.direct.gov.uk where you will find a wealth of information on it and even there it says it is not up to date and the requirements vary country to country.

This is all related to anti-terrorism, passenger safety and immigration. Airlines are going to be more involved as they lose a lot of money each year with illegal arrivals who they have to pay fines and accommodation for as well as returning to their point of origin. See http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Foreigntravel/AirTravel/DG_176737 for information.



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I understand from information gained from one of the UK KTHY offices that most or all of the Cyprus based staff of CTA may be on strike today - this will cause flight disruption.

If I find out more I will try to post what information I can get for you.

Most sorry for being vague but the information is not complete and might change or have changed at any point of time.



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KTHY strike 07-04-10

It seems that the strike is "over" (too late for most fliers today) so during tomorow things might start to sort out but do remember that the planes could be in the wrong place and the same applies to the crews so normality (such as CTA or any airline has it) might not return for 36/72 hours.



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Icelandic ash closes UK -

Usually we complain about CTA or other airlines not getting you there so this time be patient with them and all airlines - they are not allowed to fly over the UK at this moment.

There is a high level cloud of volcanic ash that is affecting flights to almost every airport in Britain. The issue is safety if it damages engines while in the air (as well as cost of repairs & delays when aircraft are not serviceable).

The effect of this will also mean disruption when aircraft/crews are in the wrong place.



Don’t travel to an airport without checking if you flight will be there

For more information have a look at the BBC - http://www.news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8621779.stm or look at your local airports web site



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I have contacted the Pegasus UK rep and he has said DEPENDING on the cloud dispersing and flights being OK tomorrow they intend to lay on a second flight later in the day tomorrow for the Pegasus passengers who can't travel but you need to keep informed either through the airlines direct (web sites or call centres) or try your agent. Keep an eye on airport and news web sites also.



Tom IAH Ltd http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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Just in from KTHY:

Email received at 12.14 - In line with the announcements made by UK NATS, please find details of the re-arranged times for the 15th of April YK955/YK956.



This change as instructed by The National Air Traffic Service (NATS) is necessitated as a result of the Volcanic ash from Iceland.



ALL TIMES ARE LOCAL



15 APRIL 10

YK155 ECN 02:45 AYT 03:30

16 NISAN 10

YK 955 AYT 04:15 STN 06:30

YK 956 STN 07:45 AYT 13:45

YK 156 AYT 14:30 ECN 15:15



- I am sorry to say that CTA Pall Mall can only give us UK related information at present and this might be subjected to further changes beyond their control.

As we know more we will try to update this thread

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No new news that we know of but this came in from one of the travel press:

Ash disruption may not be covered by insurers



(15 April 2010)

Insurance professionals are urging agents and operators to study the small print of the policies they sell as fears grow that many do not cover volcanic ash disruption.



Airports have been closed today and hundreds of flights cancelled across the UK as ash from an Icelandic volcano spreads.



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Just in from Pegasus (19.30 at night - you see how Peter and IAH try to keep on the ball to assist you).

Refunds may well be available from Pegasus against tkt price if anyone wishes to canx due to the dust cloud over the UK today.

Replacement flt scheduled for 16th with dep ex STN 1830 SUBJECT to confirmation re CAA and NATS in the morning. This flight number PC4502 will only be for passengers who were not able to fly today 15th April.

The information is still not firm and might be changed after the 07.00 NATS meeting on the 16th.

Brgds Peter

Tom's note - This could all change as late as 11.00 tomorow and the flights might take longer at present France is also in trouble and the airlines might not be able to fly over Central Europe (as you know the normal routes to Turkey and Cyprus go in that direction)



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Tom

Are the airlines providing accommodation, some of those that are travelling may not have a 'home base' to return to?



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Richard, I wish I knew.



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Thanks for the updates Tom.



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Hi Tom



We were due out yesterday and were transferred onto a flight tonight at 5.50 but that too has been cancelled. I have just been on the phone to Pegasus and I cannot find out if we have been transferred onto another flight. Is there another number I can phone do you know?



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Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Friday April 16, 0830

The cloud of volcanic ash continues to cover much of the UK and the eruption in Iceland continues. Following a review of the latest Met Office information, NATS advises that restrictions preventing flights in English controlled airspace will remain in place until 0100 (UK time) tomorrow, Saturday 17 April, at the earliest.



Flights in Northern Ireland and the Western Isles of Scotland to and from Glasgow and Prestwick will continue to be allowed until 1900 (UK time) subject to individual co-ordination. North Atlantic traffic to and from Glasgow, Prestwick and Belfast may also be allowed in this period.



From 1900 (UK time), forecasts indicate that Scottish airspace may be able to accept domestic flights within Scotland and Northern/Southern Ireland, and North Atlantic flights to/from airports in Scotland and Northern Ireland.



We will review further Cont.........



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cont from Msg 115........ review further Met Office information and at 1430 (UK time) we will advise further arrangements. In general, the situation is dynamic and subject to change.



Tom's note

The ATC web site is overloaded and this si not a full staetment according to the BBC the closedown will persist till 13.00 Saturday.



The airlines do not have secret phone numbers for either their agents nor the general public and you can be sure they will try to assist as you can imagine the problems for them are going to be huge. Their staff must be desperate so try (hard it might be) to be patient with them.



I will try to post more as soon as I can to assist you.



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Thank you Tom. I appreciate you help.

Linda



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Thanks Tom - a wealth of info on this thread. Thanks also for your response to my query on another thread..





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Icelandic Ash

Earlier today one of the BBC correspondents said that the next flights would not be till 13.00 tomorrow NOW they are saying earliest 01.00 Saturday. This agrees with the information from NATS.

I understand that the UK is one of some 7 specialist centres world wide and the weather service say that in all honesty this "act of God" cannot be predicted. They showed the structure of the flume and at the time of the overlay on the map it showed cover over most of England, Northern France, Belgium, Scandinavia & south toward Greece etc.

To make the airline planners task even harder even as it clears there could still be some patches of volcanic ash and as it includes "sand and glass" it would be terrible for the propellers (a jet turbine is still built with propellers) and the chances of a horrific incident are not worth contemplating.

The airlines & tour operators will try to cope but the backlog will be bad. Being an act of god they have no control!



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CTA London have been trying to fax me some further details but seem to be having a problem. As soon as they do I will pass the information onto you.

I do not think they have too much information but you must remember that all the airlines have a huge number of problems



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Hi Tom,



thanks for all the info. I have emailed a few questions to you. Hope that is ok



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No flights into UK airspace until 07.00 bst tomorrow ( at the earliest) so says the NATS website just now..



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Pegasus (Peter) rang me earlier (and he's not supposed to be working this weekend for very good family reasons). According to Peter; Pegasus as far as he can gather is saying that the following will apply:

1. They will try to put on extra flights where capacity and slots allow - if they are available you can be transfered to them

2. They like KTHY are offering a refund policy - you will need to apply.

3. If you contact the airline direct (in this instance the agents will most probably not be able to help) the airline will try to move you to another date if that is your preference but that cannot be done by just arriving at the check in so has to be organised the numbers to call Pegasus are:

Turkey 444 0 737 - Germany 0 1805 333 737 - UK 0 845 0848 980

Switzerland 0 900 110 737 - Other Countries + 90 212 444 0 737



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JUST IN:

Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Friday April 16, 1445

The cloud of volcanic ash continues to move south through the UK and the eruption in Iceland continues.



Following a review of the latest Met Office information, NATS advises that restrictions preventing flights in controlled airspace over England and Wales will remain in place until 0700 (UK time) tomorrow, Saturday 17 April, at the earliest. From 1900 (UK time) today ATC restrictions will be lifted in a large part of Scottish airspace including Scottish airports, Shetland, Orkneys and also Northern Ireland.



On this basis, North Atlantic traffic can also operate to/from points in this airspace. Please note these arrangements do not mean that all flights will operate. Anyone hoping to travel today or tomorrow should contact their airline before going to the airport.



We are looking for opportunities when the ash cloud moves sufficient for us to enable some flights to operate under indi Cont....



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Msg 124 cont.....

flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC. Some aircraft were able to operate at Manchester this morning, although restrictions are now reapplied to Manchester.



We hope there may be some opportunity from the north into Newcastle after 0100 (UK time) tomorrow - Saturday. We will review further Met Office information and at 2030 (UK time) we will advise further arrangements. In general, the situation is dynamic and subject to change.



We continue to work closely with airports, airlines, and the rest of Europe to understand and mitigate the implications of the volcanic eruption.



About NATS -NATS handled 2.2 million flights in 2009, covering the UK and eastern North Atlantic, that carried more than 200 million passengers safely through some of the busiest and most complex airspace in the world.



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New news from NATS re UK flights:

Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Friday April 16, 2045

The volcanic ash cloud continues to affect UK airspace. Following the latest update from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 1300 (UK time) on Saturday April 17.



There are currently no airspace restrictions in Scotland, Northern Ireland and in an area over the North Sea that includes the Shetlands and Orkney Isles. Manchester, Liverpool and all airports North of those may be available from 0400 (UK time) – 1000 (UK time) for departures to and arrivals from the North and West subject to individual co-ordination. However, please be advised that the situation is continuously changing. Forecasts indicate that the ash cloud is expected to return over Northern England at 1000 (UK time) and it is likely that restrictions will be reintroduced.



Please note these arra... Cont........ Msg 127



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Cont Msg 126:

....rangements do not mean that all flights will operate. Anyone hoping to travel today or tomorrow should contact their airline before going to the airport.



We are looking for opportunities when the ash cloud moves sufficiently for us to enable some flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC.



We will review further Met Office information and at 0900 (UK time) on Saturday we will advise further arrangements.



We continue to work closely with airports, airlines, and the rest of Europe to understand and mitigate the implications of the volcanic eruption.



Tom

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18:12 CET on 16 April 2010, EUROCONTROL has the following update -

Airspace is currently not available for operation of civilian aircraft in the following countries/areas: most part of the UK (excluding Scotland), Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, southern parts of Sweden and Norway, Finland, Estonia, the north of France including all Paris airp.... Cont Msg128



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Tom,My Lear is stuck at Staverton.



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Cont Msg 127:



....Paris airports, most parts of Germany, parts of Poland including Warsaw airport and the Czech Republic. Geneva and Vienna will also be closing later on today.



Approximately 600 trans-Atlantic flights take place each day, 300 in each direction. Of the 300 flights that would usually arrive in Europe, today between 100 and 120 arrived in Europe.



Forecasts suggest that the cloud of volcanic ash is continuing to move east and south-east and that the impact will continue for at least the next 24 hours



- In the 1950's the Organisation for the Safety of Air Navigation, EUROCONTROL, was created, for the purpose of maintaining safety within the field of air traffic management over Europe



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Do you have a number for Turkish Airlines please Tom?



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Charlotte:

+90 212 444 0 849

+90 212 463 63 63

+44 208-897 17 31

+44 844 800 6666



And there are more just look at their web site for Izmir, Adana, Birmingham, Warsaw, Manchester etc.



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Not the good news that you were hoping for; see below - and now it's compounded by the fact that some airlines have no space left to send peoiple to Europe whan the cloud clears (Sky news has reported this morning that Cathay Pacific can't offer any seats for the rest of April to or from Europe due to the effect of the cloud.)



NATS Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Saturday April 17, 0830

The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland is moving around and changing shape. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0100 (UK time) tomorrow, Sunday 18 April.



We are looking for opportunities when the ash cloud moves sufficiently for us to make some airspace available within Scotland and Northern Ireland, which may enable some domestic flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC; we will be coordinating ....... Etc



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Well been into CTA office again today & rebooked for wednesday as thats the earliest available seat. Not looking good.



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Problems / claims related to the effect of the ash cloud over Europe - the notes below are as I understand them and might be wrong so please check thoroughly elsewhere do NOT go by hearsay at all.

Note that as Turkish Airlines, CTA (KTHY) & Pegsaus are not based within the EU different rules may apply to them as carriers than for UK or EU based carriers ie BA, EasyJet, Cyprus Airways, Monarch etc.

Talk with your travel insurer in case you can get any assistance.

If you have bought an ATOL bonded package from a tour operator then they have other obligations to help you. (Flight and hotel in one package.)

In all cases be nice to the "poor sods" they are not having an easy life, their income is also at risk and they have no more knowledge than you of the weather etc. Most important try to help them give them contact details & tell them as much as can help them.

In this case agents and consolidators can do little to help only the airlines can.

PS ATOL rules are complex ....



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 10.30 CET 17 Apr 2010



No landings and take offs are possible for civilian aircraft across most of northern and central Europe . This includes Austria, Belgium, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Northern France, most of Germany, Hungary, Ireland, northern Italy, the Netherlands, southern Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK. In some of these areas the upper airspace has been made available, depending on the observed and forecasted area of ash contamination. However, it is difficult to access this airspace as in most cases the surrounding area is not available for flights.



Southern Europe, including Spain, the southern Balkan area, southern Italy, Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey remain open and flights are taking place in these areas.



trans-Atlantic flights 73 flights have arrived in Europe this morning.



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We are off to New York wednesday , do you think we will still be going Tom ?

Patricia



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NATS Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Saturday April 17, 1445

The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland is moving around and changing shape. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0700 (UK time) tomorrow, Sunday 18 April.



There may be some airspace available within Scotland, Northern Ireland and England north of Leeds up till 1900 (UK time) today, which may enable some domestic flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC. We will be coordinating this closely with airlines and airports. We would repeat, it is most unlikely that many flights will operate today and anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport. After 1900 (UK time) today, Met Office forecasts show the ash cloud progressively covering the whole of the UK.



Patricia Msg 136 - most sorry my crystal ball is broke



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Eurocontrol Update on European air traffic situation - 16.30 CET 17 Apr 2010

There are restrictions on civil flights across most of northern and central Europe. This includes Austria, Belgium, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, most of France, most of Germany, Hungary, Ireland, northern Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine and the UK. In some of these areas the upper airspace has been made available, depending on the observed and forecasted area of ash contamination. However, it is difficult to access this airspace as in most cases the surrounding area is not available for flights.



Southern Europe, including Spain, the southern Balkan area, southern Italy, Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey remain open and flights are taking place in these areas.



Sorry - for continuing bad news Tom IAH Ltd http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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I have counted 19 postings in 2 days from Tom of flightholiday on this thread plus many more on others to try to help us all on Cyprus44. I think he deserves a big thank you. I guess that maybe we should all try to buy more seats from him?



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Sorry no better at this time

NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Sunday April 18, 0300

The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland shows continued and extensive cover of the UK. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 1900 (UK time) today, Sunday April 18.



EUROCONTROL - No more at this time



CTA / Pegasus no further news since Friday - today’s flights will probably not happen.



NB Even if NATS clears UK airspace much of Europe needs safe space too before air travel can start again.

PS One small thought is for a couple of days it's not us humans but Mother Nature who is polluting the airways



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Tom,thank you for all your info on what should be a day off ?????



Any news on Istanbul airports closing,hearing that they are.....



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Yes , thanks Tom for all the continually updated news

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Keith Msg 141 - To my knowledge (which is scant and can be faulty) No they are not closed but of course many aircraft can't get to them. See the Eurocontrol notice I posted yesterday.

(Yes the wife is grumbling that I brought a computer home! She is right as usual.)



See the thread on Istanbul airports for a little more Pegasus (ash cloud problem) news



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Sunday April 18, 1000

The volcanic ash cloud from Iceland is currently spread acoss the UK. Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0100 (local time) tomorrow, Monday 19 April.



There may be limited opportunity in Orkney and Shetland from 1900 (local time) today for some flights to operate under individual coordination with ATC. However, it is most unlikely that many flights will operate today and anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport.



We will continue to monitor Met Office information and review our arrangements in line with that.



EUROCONTROL No upadate - map might interes but is of no real help

http://www.eurocontrol.int/corporate/gallery/content/public/news/cloud-map-17april-3.png



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NATS Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Sunday April 18, 1500

Conditions around the movement of the layers of the volcanic ash cloud over the UK remain dynamic. NATS is maintaining close dialogue with the Met Office and with the UK’s safety regulator, the CAA, in respect of the international civil aviation policy we follow in applying restrictions to use of airspace. We are currently awaiting CAA guidance.

We are working closely with Government, airports and airlines, and airframe and aero engine manufacturers to get a better understanding of the effects of the ash cloud and to seek solutions.



Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until at least 0700 (local time) tomorrow, Monday 19 April.

We will of course continue to make best use of any breaks in the ash cloud to offer opportunities to airlines as they arise. There may be limited opportunity in Ork....



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EUROCONTROL - The following chart was taken from their web site information and I hope it will help you to understand the enormity of the problem that we all face - remember this is not just UK but much of Northern Europe:

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Actual Flights

Flights same day previous week

% change



Wed 14 April 2010

28,087

27,912

+0.6%



Thurs 15 April 2010

20,842

28,578

-27.1%



Fri 16 April 2010

11,659

28,597

-59.2%



Sat 17 April 2010

4,886

22,653

-78.4%



Sun 18 April 2010

4,000 (expected)

24,965

-84% (expected)



Mon 19 April 2010



28,126





Sunday figures based on assumptions at 12.30CET on Sunday 18 April



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 12.30 CET 18 Apr 2010

At the current time, air traffic control services are not being provided to civil aircraft in the major part of European airspace. This includes Austria, Belgium, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, most of France, most of Germany, Hungary, Ireland, northern Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia, north Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine and the UK. In some of these areas the upper airspace has been made available, depending on the observed and forecasted area of possible ash contamination. However, it is difficult to access this airspace as in most cases the surrounding area is not available for flights.



Southern Europe, including parts of Spain, Portugal, the southern Balkan area, southern Italy, Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey remain open and flights are taking place in these areas.



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CTA no new statement today



Pegasus 2010-04-18 - As the ash cloud due to the volcanic eruption in Iceland continues to effect the flight trafic in whole Europe, tickets which have been issued for the cancelled flights will be reissued without any penalty and fare difference and/or will be refunded without any penalty until 30apr10 for travels until 31may10 . All of the changes and cancellations will be made by our Call Center.

Best Regards, PEGASUS AIRLINES



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Note as mentioned before your agent can't make thse changes you have to contact Pegasus direct.



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Sunday April 18, 2100

Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the current restrictions across UK controlled airspace due to the volcanic ash cloud will remain in place until at least 1900 (local time) on Monday 19 April.



There may currently be some limited opportunities in Shetland for flights, subject to individual co-ordination with ATC. However, anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport.



Conditions around the movement of the layers of the volcanic ash cloud over the UK remain dynamic. NATS is maintaining close dialogue with the Met Office and with the UK's safety regulator, the CAA, in respect of the international civil aviation policy we follow in applying restrictions to use of airspace. We are currently awaiting CAA guidance.



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BBC - 20.26 tonight I have shortened the information T - as always verify anything I or anyone tells you - Europe's air industry has called for an urgent review of flight bans imposed because of volcanic ash from Iceland.



The bodies representing most European airlines and airports have questioned the need for the unprecedented curbs, which affect millions of travellers.

Airlines that have carried out test flights say planes showed no obvious damage after flying through the ash.

EU Transport Commissioner Siim Kallas said he hoped 50% of Europe's airspace would be risk-free on Monday.



- current situation was "not sustainable" - European authorities working to find a solution that did not compromise safety. - EU transport ministers would hold a video teleconference on Monday to assess the situation. - Lufthansa and Air Berlin, also said they had carried out test flights without apparent damage, as did Air France.

Airlines are estimated to be losing some £130m a day.



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More like £250m a day, and as to Air France, it's more like Air Chance!



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RE msg 150, Tom: (...) Lufthansa and Air Berlin, also said they had carried out test flights without apparent damage, as did Air France. (...)

=> As did KLM - Minister of Transport, Eurlings: "Not a trace of ashes found in the engines or on the plane's body. In my opinion Europe is trying to be holier than the pope. This must change - the rules must be changed."



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Richard - £150 million copied and pasted from the BBC I do not know more.



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 21.00 CET 18 Apr 2010

At the current time, air traffic control services are not being provided to civil aircraft in the major part of European airspace. This includes Belgium, parts of Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, parts of France, most of Germany, Hungary, Ireland, northern Italy, the Netherlands, parts of Norway, Poland, Romania, Serbia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Sweden, Switzerland, Ukraine and the UK.

In some of these areas the upper airspace has been made available, depending on the observed and forecasted area of possible ash contamination. However, it is difficult to access this airspace as in most cases the surrounding area is not available for flights.

Southern Europe, including Spain, Portugal, the southern Balkan area, southern Italy, Bulgaria, Greece and Turkey are open and flights are taking place in these areas.



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Another question for you Tom,Do you have a number to contact Pegusas at Stanstead? The airport gave me 08450848980 however it wont ring from a u/k mobile.



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UK Airspace now closed until 0100 Tuesday 20th!



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Clive - Msg 155 there is no Pegasus office in Stansted. If it relateds to the ash cloud problem you would do best to call the Istanbul call centre. See msg 123 for numbers that go there.



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Monday April 19, 0830

Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the current restrictions across UK controlled airspace due to the volcanic ash cloud will remain in place until at least 0100 (local) on Tuesday 20th April.



Anyone hoping to travel should contact their airline before travelling to the airport.



Conditions around the movement of the layers of the volcanic ash cloud over the UK remain dynamic. NATS is maintaining close dialogue with the Met Office and with the UK's safety regulator, the CAA, in respect of the international civil aviation policy we follow in applying restrictions to use of airspace. We are currently awaiting CAA guidance.



We are working closely with Government, airports and airlines, and airframe and aero engine manufacturers to get a better understanding of the effects of the ash cloud and to seek solutions.



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Thankyou Tom,I will seek out permission for you to become a forester obut.



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Pegasus phone number for UK is not working. Any ideas on how to contact otherwise? We were due to fly again tomorrow.

Thanks Linda



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Linnyloos,I have the same problem,No email answered either.



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Linda - I am sorry to say you will need to use the Turkish number if you cant work the UK one from your phone



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Thanks Tom but I cannot do this from my work. Do you know what time they close please.



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As far as I'm aware 24/24 if not till late anyway



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Linnyloos,Pegusas are not responding to any of the numbers.



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PEGASUS INFORMATION - just taken off the agents web login:

Bulletin for cancelled flights 19-04-2010

As the ash cloud due to the volcanic eruption in Iceland continues to effect the flight trafic in whole Europe, tickets which have been issued for the cancelled flights will be reissued without any penalty and fare difference and/or will be refunded without any penalty until 30apr10 for travels until 31may10 . All of the changes and cancellations will be made by our Call Center.



Best Regards,

PEGASUS AIRLINES

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Dear Agencies,



as the ash cloud due to the volcanic eruption in Iceland continues to effect the flight trafic in whole Europe, the following flights have been canceled on 19.04.2010 Monday. For ticket refund and rebooking, please contact Pegasus Call Center +90 212 444 0 737

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If you want the whole list of European destinations affected let me know they include Paris, Brussels, Zurich, Amsterdam & Dressden to name a few.

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i phoned the call centre last night and re-booked my flights. Short delay before they answered but everything sorted.



00902124440737 from the uk.



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I have called that number eleven times today and have still not spoken to anyone!



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Thank you Tom but still no luck with any of the numbers.

Linda



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Now made 18 calls,still no reply.Ashtray on a motorbike springs to mind.



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UK restrictions to be lifted tomorrow - just confirmed.



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Guess what?I finally spoke to someone at Pegusas,she told me to ring back before midnight! Rigsby is on his way to Stanstead.



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Monday April 19, 1530

The volcanic eruption has reduced and the volcano is not currently emitting ash to altitudes that will affect the UK. Assuming there are no further significant ash emissions we are now looking at a continuously improving situation.



Based on the latest information from the Met Office, NATS advises that the restrictions currently in place across UK controlled airspace will remain in place until 0700 (local time) tomorrow, Tuesday.



From 0700 (local time) tomorrow, Tuesday, Scottish airspace will be open, and south to a line between Teesside and Blackpool. Mainland Scottish airports will be open.



This is a dynamic and changing situation and is therefore difficult to forecast beyond 0700 local; however, the latest Met Office advice is that the contaminated area will continue to move south with the possibility that restrictions to airspace above England and Wales, including the London are.. Cont.... 174



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.......ing the London area, may be lifted later tomorrow (Tuesday).



We will continue to monitor Met Office information and review our arrangements in line with that. We will advise further arrangements at approximately 2100 (local time), today.



It is now for airports and airlines to decide how best to utilise this opportunity. Passengers should contact their airlines to find out how this will affect their travel plans.



---- I hope this information has been of some use Tom http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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All very usefull Tom,



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 18.30 CET 19 Apr 2010

At the current time, air traffic control services are not being provided to civil aircraft in the major part of European airspace. This includes Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands, northern Italy, Romania, Slovenia, Switzerland, parts of Ukraine and the UK. In some of these areas the upper airspace has been made available, depending on the observed and forecasted area of possible ash contamination. However, it is difficult to access this airspace as in most cases the surrounding area is not available for flights.



Flights are taking place in southern and central Europe, including the Czech Republic, the Balkan area, Bulgaria, Hungary, southern Italy and France, Greece, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, and Turkey, as well as parts of northern Europe (Norway and parts of Sweden).

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Some positive ie Czech Republic changes?



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Message recieved a little earlier:

Pegasus believe they may be able to and hope they will commence flying on the 21st with the PC501/502.

They have been intending to lay on extra flights and if they notify they will you will know here as soon as we do.



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Latest NATS website shows a new ash cloud from the volcano spreading south & east towards the UK, more airspace may be available tomorrow but not as far south as the London airports at the moment. Obviously this could change again overnight..



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Dawn

ANZAC day is looking good for you!



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They told me to ring just before midnight to check on 9502 on 20th???



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Monday April 19, 2200

Since our last statement at 1530 today, the volcano eruption in Iceland has strengthened and a new ash cloud is spreading south and east towards the UK. This demonstrates the dynamic and rapidly changing conditions in which we are working.

Latest information from the Met Office shows that the situation is worsening in some areas. Based on this information, the situation for Northern Irish airports for the morning is uncertain, due to the new ash cloud. The latest information shows that Scottish airports should be available from 0700 and more airspace over England may become available from 1300 although not as far south as the main London airports.

We will continue to monitor Met Office information and the situation is likely to change overnight. We will make a further statement at approximately 0300 (local time), tomorrow, Tuesday 20 April and again at 0900 (local time).



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Well done, I forecasted this yesterday and the day before! This will not be going away for a long time yet!



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An Abstract from CAA update on volcanic ash situation 19 April 2010

As the UK’s independent aviation regulator the Civil Aviation Authority’s (CAA) role is to safeguard the public interest by overseeing the safety of UK aviation and we are making every effort to allow safe airline operations to resume in the light of continued volcanic activity.



We are currently facing one of the biggest challenges the aviation industry has ever seen. The CAA oversaw Sunday’s test flight between Heathrow and Cardiff. The British Airways 747 followed a route previously flown by the Dornier research aircraft which collects scientific data for the Met Office. This allowed an assessment to be made which related ash density to aircraft damage, unlike other test flights reported in Europe. Our experts are reviewing all the evidence and working intensively to expedite a safe solution along with aircraft manufacturers, European aviation regulators, air traffic control providers and European institutions.



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I have just spoken to Pegusas 22.15 u/k time and have been told;No cancellation?Thats H9502 Stanstead/Sabiha/Ercan



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Getting worse, 00:17 BBC World News.



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Again have just spoken to Pegusas about todays flights.She confirmed that 20 minutes ago all flights cancelled.Rebooked.No long drive today then.



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When is Ash Wednesday ??? lol



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Tuesday April 20, 0245

Since our last statement at 2100 (local time) yesterday, the volcano eruption in Iceland has strengthened and a new ash cloud is spreading south and east towards the UK. This demonstrates the dynamic and rapidly changing conditions in which we are working.



Latest information from the Met Office shows that the situation is variable. The information shows that Scottish airsports should be available from 0700 (local time) and more airspace over England may become available from 1300 (local time) although not as far south as the main London airports.



We will continue to monitor Met Office information and the situation is likely to change during the course of the day. We will make a further statement at approximately 0900 (local time), today, Tuesday 20 April.



NATS is maintaining close dialogue with the Met Office and with the UK's safety regulator, the CAA, in respect of the international civil av.......



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getting worse



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Tuesday April 20, 0900

The situation regarding the volcanic eruption in Iceland remains dynamic and the latest information from the Met Office shows that the situation today will continue to be variable.



Based on the latest Met Office information, part of Scottish airspace including Aberdeen, Inverness and Edinburgh airports will continue to be available from 1300-1900 today, and also south to Newcastle Airport. Restrictions will remain in place over the rest of UK airspace below 20,000ft.



Overnight the CAA, in line with new guidance from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) decided flights above the ash cloud will be permitted in the UK; between 1300-1900 this will enable aircraft movements above 20,000ft in UK airspace.



We will continue to monitor Met Office information and the situation is likely to change during the course of the day. We will make a further statement ....



Tom IAH Ltd



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 11.00 CET 20 Apr 2010

By the end of today, we expect that more than 95,000 flights in total will have been cancelled since Thursday 15 April.

The new procedures agreed yesterday have been in place since 06.00UTC. At the current time, air traffic control services are not being provided to civil aircraft, or are being provided with significant restrictions, in the lower airspace primarily in north-western Europe, including Denmark, Estonia, Finland, north France, north Italy, Latvia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Ukraine and UK. In the upper airspace above 20,000 feet, all European airspace is available.



50% of the total number of flights are expected to take place today in Europe, representing 75% of the total continent area. This area includes: Austria, the Balkan area, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Portugal, parts of Italy and France, Greece, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Rom....

Cont...... Msg 191



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 11.00 CET 20 Apr 2010



....Romania, northern Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey.



Most sorry not the best news - this might persist so be prepared for land and ferry travel. Tom IAH ltd http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Tuesday April 20, 1500

The situation regarding the volcanic eruption in Iceland remains dynamic and the latest information from the Met Office shows that the situation will continue to be variable.



Based on the latest Met Office information, part of Scottish and Northern Irish airspace including Aberdeen, Inverness and Edinburgh airports will continue to be available from 1900 today to 0100 tomorrow, Wednesday 21 April, and also south to Newcastle Airport. Glasgow and Teesside airports will additionally become available in this time period. Restrictions will remain in place over the rest of UK airspace below 20,000ft.



Flights above the ash cloud are now permitted in the UK; between 1900 today and 0100 tomorrow, this will enable aircraft movements above 20,000ft in UK airspace.



We will continue to monitor Met Office information



---- This to me reads no change but I am not an expert - they are playing safe (its your life) Tom



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There are a couple of vapour trails over W London right now, others have been seen in S England.



Apparently they are Lufthansa and other EU carriers flying at 20,000ft to keep below any ash.



So, if they can fly in UK airspace,.................. why can't we?





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Because we have to land !!!!! You can't get steps that high....



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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8633597.stm



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Queue of planes now coming into Heathrow over W London.



Now just the chaos of bookings to sort out.



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Civil Aviation Authority UK’S INDEPENDENT AVIATION REGULATOR ISSUES GUIDANCE TO OPEN AIRSPACE WITH SAFETY RESTRICTIONS CAA Date: 20 April 2010

The new guidance allows a phased reintroduction from 2200 tonight of much of the airspace which is currently closed due to the volcanic ash plume over the UK. There will continue to be some ‘no fly zones’ where concentrations of ash are at levels unsafe for flights to take place, but very much smaller than the present restrictions. Furthermore, the Met Office advise that the ‘no fly zones’ do not currently cover the UK.



“Making sure that air travellers can fly safely is the CAA’s overriding priority.



“The CAA has drawn together many of the world’s top aviation engineers and experts to find a way to tackle this immense challenge, unknown in the UK and Europe in living memory. Current international procedures recommend avoiding volcano ash at all times. In this case owing to the magnitude of the ash cloud, its pos.... Cont Msg 199



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cloud, its position over Europe and the static weather conditions most of the EU airspace had to close and aircraft could not be physically routed around the problem area as there was no space to do so. We had to ensure, in a situation without precedent, that decisions made were based on a thorough gathering of data and analysis by experts. This evidence based approach helped to validate a new standard that is now being adopted across Europe.



“The major barrier to resuming flight has been understanding tolerance levels of aircraft to ash. Manufacturers have now agreed increased tolerance levels in low ash density areas.”

Our way forward is based on international data and evidence from previous volcanic ash incidents, new data collected from test flights and additional analysis from manufacturers over the past few days. It is a conservative model allowing a significant buffer on top of the level the experts feel may pose a risk.



Ther is more ...



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As of 10.00 BST tonight UK airspace is open.



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Tuesday April 20, 2040

Response to CAA statement



NATS has received new direction from the UK’s safety regulator, the CAA, on applying restrictions to UK airspace following the volcanic eruption in Iceland.



As soon as revised accurate information is available from the Met Office on the location of the dense ash cloud, NATS will review airspace availability and provide an update to airline operators on any airspace that has been restricted for safety reasons. We will issue a further statement by 2200.



---- Now 22.30 no statement sorry - Tom http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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The information is still slow in coming in:

EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 18.30 CET

The new procedures agreed yesterday have been in place since 06.00UTC today. At the current time, in the upper airspace above 20,000 feet, all European airspace is available with the exception of Finland which is closed at all levels.



Almost 75% of the total continent area is free of any restrictions. This area includes: Austria, the Balkan area, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Italy, southern France, Greece, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Romania, northern Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine.



Air traffic control services are not being provided to civil aircraft in significant parts of the lower airspace primarily in north-western Europe, including Denmark, Estonia, Ireland, Latvia, Sweden and the UK.



Air traffic control services are being provided albeit with very significant restrictions on the number of flig... Cont 203.....



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Grand job trying to keep people informed with up to date information as it breaks.



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...ber of flights authorised, and/or the routes and flight procedures to be followed, in several parts of the lower airspace in north-western Europe, including Germany and northern France.





BBC Headline - look at for more information http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8633597.stm



All UK airports have been given the go-ahead to reopen, the Transport Secretary Lord Adonis has said.



After six days of disruption due to a cloud of volcanic ash from an Icelandic volcano, airlines can now start a phased return to flight schedules.



The decision followed consultation with the Civil Aviation Authority and a reassessment of the risk to aircraft.



BAA, which operates many of the UK's airports, said people should contact their airlines before travelling.



"Not all flights will operate during the early period of opening, and we will do everything we can to support airlines and get people moving,"





That might be that.

Tom

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IATA (International Air Transport Association) - 19 April 2010 they said

Re-Think Volcano Measures - Governments Must Base Decisions on Fact Not Theory

Paris - The International Air Transport Association (IATA) sharply criticized European governments for their lack of leadership in handling airspace restrictions in light of the Icelandic volcano eruption and urged a re-think of the decision-making process.



“We are far enough into this crisis to express our dissatisfaction on how governments have managed it-with no risk assessment, no consultation, no coordination, and no leadership. This crisis is costing airlines at least $200 million a day in lost revenues and the European economy is suffering billions of dollars in lost business. In the face of such dire economic consequences, it is incredible that Europe’s transport ministers have taken five days to organize a teleconference,” said Giovanni Bisignani, IATA’s Director General and CEO.



“Governments must place greater urgency



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The folloing flights are the list published yesterdyby Pegasus that they INTENDED to run today:

21NISAN 2010 / CARSAMBA



PC4401 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (17:20) - Paris Charles de Gaulles (20:00)

PC4402 Paris Charles de Gaulles (20:40) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (01:00)



PC4525 Lefkoşa (08:30) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (09:55)

PC4525 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (10:35) - Londra Stansted (12:25)

PC4526 Londra Stansted (13:05) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (18:40)



PC4423 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (18:15) - Basel (20:25)

PC4424 Basel (21:05) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (00:55)



PC4801 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (18:00) - Amsterdam (20:40)

PC4802 Amsterdam (21:20) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (01:35)



PC4811 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (22:50) - Kopenhag (01:00)

PC4812 Kopenhag (01:40) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (05:45)



PC4425 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (22:50) - Köln (01:00)

PC4426 Köln (01:40) - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen (05:40)



If they can I dont know.

Tom http://www.iah-holidays.co.uk



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Some thoughts post Ash:

All airports will be chaotic for at least 7/10 days so allow extra time when there and getting to and from them.

Keep all receipts just in case you can claim costs from your insurer.

Be patient at check in they will have a difficult time & be considerate with staff and other passengers.

Try to carry as little as you can to make your like easier; not all flights might be what you will expect, planes might be rented in staff will not have had enough rest between flights etc etc.

Mark all bags well as everyone will be fighting in baggage halls etc - desperate to get on or home.



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Wednesday April 21, 0945

Overnight most of the UK’s airspace has been available with the exception of an area over the north west of Scotland which has continued to be affected by a dense concentration of volcanic ash. We continue to work with the latest information and guidance from our safety regulator, the CAA, the Met Office and the Volcanic Ash Advisory Centre on the predicted movements of the area of dense volcanic ash. Based on the latest information, we anticipate that this area will continue to centre on the north west of Scotland and may extend further south into Scottish airspace during today.



Between the period of 0100 – 0700 on 21 April NATS handled 130 flights in airspace over England and Wales and 35 flights in Scottish airspace (including Northern Ireland). We are in regular contact with the UK airports and airline operators to understand the latest information on flights entering UK airspace & our operation....



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Update from CTA - UK Airspace has opened at 22:00H (UK Local time) on Tuesday 20 April 2010.



Our flying programme is returning to schedule. However due to heavy demand for departure slots from UK some flights may have a delay.



Passengers holding confirmed reservations for flights scheduled to depart on or after Wednesday 21 April, should check flight status for the latest information on your flight departure time. Where flight status advises a later scheduled departure time than is displayed on your ticket, our check in desks at the airport will remain open until 2 hours before the new departure time

21 April flight information is as follows:

STANSTED via ANTALYA to ERCAN YK954/154 Departure; 20:15 Arrival 03;45

MANCHESTER via ANTALYA to ERCAN YK664/264 Departure; 20:15 Arrival 04:00





If you do not hold a confirmed reservation for the flights that are operating, please DO NOT GO TO THE AIRPORT prior to making arrangements with our reserva... Cont on Msg 210 .....



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Cont from 209 .... reservation for the flights that are operating, please DO NOT GO TO THE AIRPORT prior to making arrangements with our reservations department or getting in touch with your agent. We are trying our best to contact all passengers where possible.



We will also be operating the following additional flight to accommodate those passengers whose travel arrangements have been disrupted.

22 APRIL

STANSTED via IZMIR to ERCAN YK1932/1432 Departure; 07:45 Arrival 15:30

STANSTED via ANTALYA to ERCAN YK1952/1452 Departure; 21:15 Arrival 04:45

23 APRIL

MANCHESTER via DALAMAN to ERCAN YK1652/1252 Departure; 02:15 Arrival 10:15



Information for passengers whose flights were cancelled between 14 April and 20 April 2010:



If your flight was cancelled please do not travel to the airport. You should contact your travel agent or our sales offices to rebook on the next available flight. Those customers holding existing, confirmed bookin....

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Cont from 210 .... ...bookings for flights that have been cancelled due to the closure of UK Airspace, will be rebooked on the first available flights.





For direct bookings only call our flight disruption line on the following numbers:



- 0044 207 9304851 in the UK.

- 0044 207 2415523 in the U.K.

It is our intention to carry passengers to their destination at the earliest opportunity when our flying programme has fully resumed however space is limited and it will take many days before all passengers are accommodated. Where applicable priority will be given to those passengers who are away from their homes.



------- If I have further details soon I will let you know. Tom http://www.iah-holidays.co.uk



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 11.00 CET 21 Apr 2010

EUROCONTROL expects approximately 21,000 flights to take place today in European airspace. On a normal Wednesday, we would expect 28,000.

Thus approximately 75% of the total number of flights are expected to take place in Europe today.

By the end of today, we expect that over 100,000 flights in total will have been cancelled since Thursday 15 April.

The new procedures agreed on Monday 19 April have been in place since Tuesday 20 April at 06.00 UTC.

At the current time, all European airspace is available above 20,000 feet.

Almost all of European airspace below 20,000 feet is available and air traffic services are being provided, although restrictions are still in force in some areas, including southern Sweden and Helsinki (Finland). It is anticipated that these restrictions will gradually be lifted throughout the day.



---- With 100,000 flights lost still expect some chaos for days T



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Hard work trying to refund our flights Tom. Because our first flight was rebooked for yesterday and obviously that didn't take place either we are to lose the service charge of 35.00! They say that it is the cost of rebooking our flight. Surely we should be entitled to a full refund.

Linda



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Pegasus as per their flight schedules - From to STN:

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-502 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 12:50 18:25

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-4526 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 13:05 18:40

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4526 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 09:15 14:50

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-502 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 12:50 18:25



21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-501 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 10:20 12:10

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-4525 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 10:35 12:25

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4525 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 06:45 08:35

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-501 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN 10:20 12:10



21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-2 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:30

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-502 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:35

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4526 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 09:15 16:55

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-2 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:30

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-502 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:35

23.04.2010 Friday PC-502 Lefko



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Cont from 214 ....

...21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-2 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:30

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-502 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:35

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4526 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 09:15 16:55

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-2 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:30

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-502 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:35

23.04.2010 Friday PC-502 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 12:50 20:35



21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-501 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 08:10 12:10

21.04.2010 Wednesday PC-4525 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 08:30 12:25

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4525 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 04:40 08:35

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-501 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 08:10 12:10

23.04.2010 Friday PC-501 Lefkoşa-ERCAN B737-800 08:10 12:10



Note extra flights have been put on Wednesday and Thursday they might possibly if they choose add on some more.



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Just in from CTA -

TO ALL AGENTS

We write to confirm that the following flights will be operating today as shown below:

21 APRIL 2010



YK153 ECN-AYT 15.15 - 15.45

YK953 AYT-STN 16.45 - 19.00



YK954 STN- AYT 20.15 - 0200+1

YK154 AYT- ECN 03.00+1 - 04.00

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YK263 ECN- AYT 15.00 - 15.30

YK663 AYT-MAN 16.30 - 19.00



YK664 MAN- AYT 20.15 - 02.15+1

YK264 AYT- ECN 03.15+1 - 04.00

-------------------------------------------------------------

All additional flights for 22 April 2010 onwards are now available for sale, therefore please

check our flights on the reservations system or call our reservations team for further details



PLEASE ADVISE ALL OF YOUR PASSENGERS ACCORDINGLY.



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New News from Pegasus due out in a short while:

You might get home or out sooner than you might have expected.



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There are some seats available to those who want to fly either way Ercan ECN, Sabiha Gokcen SAW, Stansted STN tomorrow.

At present we are not sure the slots will stay as they are or improve and be closer to today’s extra flight - currently they are:

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4526 UK to NC 09:15 16:55

22.04.2010 Thursday PC-4525 NC to UK 04:40 08:35

The same flights today were finally scheduled by Stansted PC4526 12:50 20:30 & PC4525 08:30 12:25 - Pegasus hope that will happen today again being more civilised for you.



If you are interested in these seats please contact us as soon as possible info@flightholiday.co.uk http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



The information came to us as "Latest info from Pegasus ops for PC4525/22 & PC4526/22

However believe currently these slots waiting for STN clearance?"



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I desperately tried to get 2 seats on a flight for tomorrow or Friday but was told definitely no seats available and had to cancel because the earliest I could get two was on the 28th. I have to be back in UK for 19 so I had no choice. This was at 14.30 today (see earlier post) and it was a nightmare trying to get a refund. When I did they deducted a transfer fee because we had to rebook when our first flight was cancelled on 15th.



They probably thought that if I cancel it would be better for them as they only have to refund 80.98 per ticket as I booked these seats in September last year.



Cannot see why they couldn't have put us on Thursday or Fridays flights.



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Linda - we were advised at 17.50 UK time and the airline only advised their UK rep a few minutes before - they may not have had them confirmed till 17.30 UK time - please do not think we or they are just trying to rip you off which is what you are implying. (I guess we could not as you probably did not buy from flightholiday anyway.) The airlines world wide always meake a precedence of the clients booked on any particular flight.

If you call me I will still try to fly you out on Thursday - tom IAH UK 0871 855 2925 or for other numbers look at our web site.



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Tom

Here's a good one, AA, on line had cancelled the flight though it did take off this morning and now refuse the passenger any sort of a refund!



Richard



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NATS - Statement on Icelandic volcanic eruption: Wednesday April 21, 1845

Today, NATS has handled over 2600 movements in UK airspace up to 1800 local time – approximately 80 per cent of normal traffic levels. We are expecting a volume of traffic approaching 90 per cent from approximately 0700 tomorrow morning and are staffed appropriately to deal with this.



The latest guidance from the CAA shows the predicted location of dense volcanic ash in UK airspace over the far north of Scotland for the period 1900 on 21 April to 0100 on 22 April.



Airspace at 20,000 ft or below over the Orkneys, the Shetland Islands and north of Aberdeen will not be available and airports north of Inverness will also be affected (Stornaway, Kirkwall, Wick and Sumburgh). High level Oceanic traffic flying over this area is not expected to be affected.



Unless there is any significant change to our operations, we will not be issuing any further updates.



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EUROCONTROL - Update on European air traffic situation - 18.30 CET 21 Apr 2010



EUROCONTROL expects approximately 22,500 flights to take place today in European airspace. On a normal Wednesday, we would expect 28,000. Thus over 80% of the total number of flights are expected to take place in Europe today.

At the current time, all European airspace is available above 20,000 feet.

Almost all of European airspace below 20,000 feet is available and air traffic services are being provided, although restrictions are still in force in very limited areas, including Finland airports and parts of northern Scotland.

Trans-Atlantic flights operations have gone back to normal, with 338 flights arriving in Europe today.

It is anticipated that almost 100% of the air traffic will take place in Europe tomorrow, Thursday 22 April.



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Hi Tom. I would not imply that you have or would rip me off. All I was saying was that I desperately wanted a flight out any time up until Sunday and they told me there were no more flights until Wednesday 28th. Cannot understand why they didn't tell me to phone back or look to see if they put on more flights before then. I did actually ask this and was told no all they could do was to offer me a refund. I felt that was all that was left for me to do and was then told that they will not refund the service charge.



I did not book through you but may be contacting you for next year.

Linda



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Just heard I am on tomorrow mornings flight back to Stansted, at long last, back to join my family.2 weeks on your own is no fun!!!!



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1] Msg 224 Linda - sorry we could not help for today - I am trying to find out if there is an extra flight laid on for tomorow if you email me I will do what I can.

2] Msg 225 Dawn - Great; what else can we say? Then back to the grind of looking after the boys not just #1!

3] Pegasus as of today 22/04/10

Lefkosa / Ercan

PC-4525 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 04:40 06:05 04:38 06:05 Landed

PC-501 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 08:10 09:40 08:18 09:57 Landed

London Stansted

PC-4525 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 06:45 08:35 06:40 08:50 Landed

PC-501 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 10:20 12:10 10:30 14:20 Departed

> PC-4526 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 09:15 14:50 09:21 12:56 Departed

> PC-502 Istanbul-SABİHA GÖKÇEN B737-800 12:50 18:25



Hope the above is of some help Tom IAH Ltd info@flightholiday.co.uk



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Tom, you have been a star!!! All the information posted & the chats on Skype. See you soon when we can have a beer & laugh about it all.

Richard, thanks for thinking of me, you still owe me a drink!

Now lets hope I get away tomorrow.



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Extra flights anticipated from Pegasus for this weekend:

London Stansted - Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen - Ercan routes - seats can be bought from us at flightholiday



Flights listed below are on sale on Saturday 24th of April.

PC 4525 Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen > London Stansted 19:05 ? 20:55

PC 4525 Cyprus Lefkoşe > London Stansted 17:00 ? 20:55

PC 4525 Cyprus Lefkoşe - Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen 17:00 ? 18:25

PC 4526 London Stansted > Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen 21:35 ? 03:10

PC 4526 London Stansted > Cyprus Lefkoşe 21:35 ? 05:05



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Thanks Tom. Unfortunately it's too late for me now as I have had to rearrange all my appointments and had to cancel. I will be in touch though for next year.



Thanks anyway

Linda



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Just in from KTHY CTA news of an extra flight to help those stranded after the Ash Cloud:

We write to confirm that we are operating an additonal flight on the 23rd April 2010 as follows;:



23 APRIL 2010 Ercan > < Izmir > < Stansted

YK1433 ECN- ADB 11.15 - 12.30

YK1933 ADB- STN 13.15 - 15.15

YK1934 STN- ADB 16.30 - 22.00

YK1434 ADB- ECN 23.00 - 00.15+1 (arrives Saturday moning)



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Hi Tom Ref: message 230.

I just wonder what prices and availability on tomorrows CTA flight?

Pete.

0090 533 847 0637



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Hi Peter Msg 231 - I am sorry that I have not noticed your message till just now - we always ask people to email as I am not (even though that might not seem to be the case) always on Cyprus44. I was not on it till about 10/15 minutes ago and have only just looked at this thread - I hope you caught a flight OK. If you still have need email me at info@flightholiday.co.uk with passenger details.



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In today from one of the online travel trade buletins:

27 April, 2010

Air fares to soar in wake of ash crisis

Air fares are forecast to rise by more than five per cent this year in the wake of the Icelandic volcanic ash crisis and increasing oil prices. UK travellers can expect to pay an additional £1.8 billion or £48 each on average, according to figures from the C E & B R for a website.

The study warns that fares are set to rise by 11.5% by 2012, adding £62 to the cost of an average economy flight from London to New York.

Rises are predicted as carriers attempt to claw back an estimated £1.3 billion costs due to the ash cloud disruption by the end of last week.

It is believed that much of the costs will be borne by European airlines.



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Tom

I have no idea where you're getting your information but it's just been announced that European Airlines are able to sue/ask their Country of origin for compensation. Also a pan European airline traffic control system is now imminent.



Richard



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Richard

1] This is a slightly shortened quotation from a reputable travel industry on line magazine (as I said).

2] What are they going to sue for - a dust cloud? If one passenger plane had come down empty or full the chaos would have been horrendous and the devastation over a populated area terrible to contemplate. If the airlines & the pan European Organisation called the EU had thought it through they would have ensured the law the airlines are moaning about was created allowing for these types of circumstances.

3] What is Eurocontrol but an over 25 year old pan European organisation? This currently control European aviation does it not?

4] If it's EU run wait to see what those bureaucrats will do to make things slower and more cumbersome than they are



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Tom

Behave! I got this information on the BBC Radio 4 news! Can anyone trust the press or on air media!!



Richard



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NATS Sorry to say we have heard today that there are problems again:-

Latest statement on the volcanic ash situation

Update on Wednesday 5 May, 1200



The no-fly zone imposed by the Civil Aviation Authority will extend from 1300 (local) today to include Belfast City, Belfast International, Ronaldsway (Isle of Man) and Edinburgh Airports. All other airfields currently within the no-fly zone remain within it.



Latest information from the Met Office shows that the ash cloud continues to move south and change shape. We continue to maintain close dialogue with the Met Office and with the CAA, which is responsible for imposing no-fly zones.



These latest restrictions will be re-assessed by the CAA at 1900. We will issue a further update following that.



- Looks like I'm going to be in Lapa for longer Need IAH talk to Alan he's guiding our ship.



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Enjoy the weather Tom,chill out !!!



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NATS today -

Latest statement on the volcanic ash situation

Update on Monday 10 May, 0900



The high density area of the volcanic ash cloud is now lying to the

north-west of the UK and, as a result, there are currently no

restrictions within UK airspace.



We continue to maintain close dialogue with the Met Office and with the

CAA, which agrees no-fly zones based on Met Office data, and will issue

any further notice on this website as necessary.





Still in Lapta, not much longer worst luck



Tom



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NATS:

Update on Monday 17 May, 1100

The CAA has lifted the no-fly zone that has been affecting flights at Heathrow and Gatwick this morning. The decision comes following further information from the Met Office about the nature and location of the ash cloud.

The no-fly zone remains in place in two key areas affecting operations in Northern Ireland and the Shetland Isles. Airports falling within the No Fly Zones include: Belfast City, Londonderry, Shetland and Orkney. All other airports are open.

EUROCONTROL:

17 May 2010 As of 10.00 CET The areas of ash concentration are mainly at low levels. During the course of the day, the current cloud is expected to disperse somewhat. By 14.00CET, the cloud is expected to mainly affect Northern Ireland, parts of Scotland and parts of south-west UK.

There may be some continuing disruption to flights in the greater London area. Delays will also be experienced by flights due to congestion in airspace adjacent to closed areas.



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Three subjects one posting:



Ash Cloud - There are no new reports since Monday 17th May - great.



Cyprus Turkish Airlines - CTA KTHY - The UK staff who I have talked with all seem confident that they are going to be at work for many months/years to come.

I believe that many UK Tour operators feel confident that the airline will still operate till the end of this season.

I am sure there will be changes to keep CTA working. More to come regarding next season (hopefully fairly soon). If the airline is not flying it will cause chaos for North Cyprus so I hope it can continue.



Travel insurance from the TRNC - We have had a number of people apply through our web site and I hope that all of them are happy with the results of the enquiries; if not can they email me so that we can do what we can to assist our associates to improve the service in this regard. Tom - info@flightholiday.co.uk



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Taken from one of the UK trade press emails received today:

Fear of disruption due to volcanic ash could discourage one in five UK adults from flying this summer, according to consumer research.

Market researcher Mintel suggests 2.8 million have decided not to fly “as a direct result of the ash cloud”. It suggests an additional 4.7 million are undecided and that another 2.4 million had already decided to stay at home.

Mintel surveyed 2,000 UK adults on the impact of volcanic ash in May

Flightholiday comment - North Cyprus and Turkey like the rest of the world are being hit hard and the trade profit margins are much reduced. Travel companies are all having to work far harder, more hours and be more focused.



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From one of the UK trade press again:

BA/Unite Acas talks break down - Acas made fresh proposals to resolve the conflict over BA’s withdrawal of travel concessions after cabin crew ended a series of stoppages last week. But in a statement today an Acas spokesman said: “Regrettably, the parties were unable to move closer to an agreement.” - At present there are no further meetings planned.



Toms' personal thoughts - So far these strikes are doing BA no good and the crews could be out of work if the strikes carry on. It feels as if they are trying to cripple the airline. CTA is in a similar position for other reasons it would be sinful if either or both were to go out of business so give them your support if you can.

As part of your travel insurance try to insure against SAF (scheduled airline failure) in any case. Of course an insurer will be wary of claims if you knew of a closure. Both of our insurers do offer SAF in their Optimum packages. http://www.flightholiday.co.uk



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Tom,



Well done with the updates.



Every cloud has a silver lining though. BA are rerouting many of their transatlantic passengers on to Aer Lingus via Dublin. Aer Lingus flights to/from the USA are now carrying 50% transfer passengers mostly from the likes of Birmingham, Manchester, and Glasgow, but many are also using the new Aer Lingus Regional from places like Doncaster.



You are correct I feel in your concern for the future of BA, either the union will need to do a deal, or the airline may just sack every single one of them. Aer Lingus and Ryanair both have done this in the past and had no problem in getting the union (for ALT) and staff association (in RYR) to quickly return to the table.



Let's see what happens, it cannot go on like this for much longer.



DD



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KTHY CTA There is news that they might be in trouble. This is not helped with the news being garbled, miss translated and by the fact that most news media are only going on whispers not facts.

Do not panic - you all knew this was expected but I understand that a plan is in hand and if it works (which is possible) you will all know in 24/36 hours.

Whatever happens it will not be easy on Cyprus Turkish Airlines staff so treat them well and I'm sure they will try to do so likewise to you.



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Pegasus PC501 is due in Stansted at 16.45 (not 12.10) but it is already over the sea approaching Ipswich right now.



Now thats better news isn't it?



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CTA There seem to be a lot of rumours going round and little sustainable fact. Much of it is from media that seems to know nothing more than yet more rumour.

A few people are complaining about things most of which is out of date anyway.

Can I suggest that unless you can confirm facts from at least three sources don’t put it in print it is just another rumour and those are part of what has caused this problem.



Like all the operators if KTHY goes down we will lose substantially as we have to protect our clients – have you heard any other tour operator complain? No they are waiting for the truth as we do at IAH.

I am privy to things that need to be confirmed and until I can give facts; I will not. I am sure many of the rumours will prove malicious and unwarranted.

In the next 72 hours do not panic yourself or anyone else & try to be as nice as possible to KTHY staff who are trying to help you while they face the prospect of possibly no money and no job at the end of the month.



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There I told you not to panic.

I have been told that CTA have at least one flight due today but it is probably delayed.

They (KTHY) hope to resume more normal service during Thursday and Friday of this week.

CTA / Atlas - no one is currently privy to the agreement but it seems from the TRNC Public Information Office board that there is an agreement. I wonder how it will affect flights, customers and agents as well as how long it will take before it comes into play.



http://www.trncpio.org/trncpio/en/index.asp?sayfa=haberdetay&newsid=353



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Not what I wanted to hear nor to quote about KTHY.

Taken from the British FCO site (2nd update today @ 13.25) http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abroad/travel-advice-by-country/europe/cyprus :

On 25 June Cyprus Turkish Airlines (CTA) and Cyprus Turkish Holidays Ltd ceased operations and a planned partnership between Cyprus Turkish Airlines (CTA) and Atlas Jet will now not proceed. Passengers affected are advised to seek advice in the first instance from their travel agents or tour operators regarding their position. There is no ‘help line’ available yet for passengers, but Cyprus Turkish Airlines can be contacted on the following numbers: (+90 392) 44 458 49, 228 3901, 228 3045 or 227 1706.



CAA: No change on CTA Holidays ATOL at present (this is for package holidays only not flights)



There might still be a salvage but I am not sure who or how.

I have talked to other members of ASTTO and all are desperately trying to place clients on other flights & alleviate their problems.



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I have started a new thread Flights 2010 and 2011 - lets hope it brings better news than the end of this thread.

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/39106.asp



Tom http://www.flightholiday.co.uk info@flightholiday



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