british, naive or what

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 00:07

guys

sorry ,but i just have to say there are a few posts on at the moment winding you guys up, ie mostly about greeks taking your properties or the turkish selling you too the highest bidder,well if that was to ever happen it won,t be in our life time,believe me .

the talks ,if you call it that failed months ago the day christofas went on his todd to gordon brown and signed the memorandum ,it failed.

the biggest problem the turkish government have at the moment is tourism and this is mostly what they are concerned about ,hence you have seen some flight prices gone down.

stay chilled guys .



musin

long live the kktc

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 00:18

You are right Musin. It's all conjecture. No one knows anything about the talks only the people directly involved. We are not going to have our properties taken away from us - full stop.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 00:34

Hmmm, what do you call "your" properties?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 00:42

Musim,



Are the British naive? Nah! Trusting maybe.



Hoping that the matter can be resolved in good faith, with everyones rights protected.



If the talks fail, will The TRNC be internationally recognised? In that event I think The Greeks



would be told , that they have had two chances, and International recognition will be granted.



Just my views, thats all!



wyn.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 00:53

Wyn



The GREEKS live in a country 300 miles to the west.. I take it you mean do you mean Greek speaking Cypriots..? ;)



The "TRNC" in it's present form will NEVER, EVER be recognised.. China and Russia would veto any attempt to overturn the Security Council Resolution to remind members that it's declaration of independence is legally "invalid" - unless the "rump" RoC and TCs can settle their differences, the RoC can wave this *big* legal stick and prevent Direct flights and many EU aid initiatives that would involve TCs

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 01:00

nobody imagined the berlin wall would come down a couple of years before it did, have faith

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 01:17

Good point Paul, some good should come from all of this.. and it set a few precedents for property restitution after 40 + years...

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 04:45

oy MMMM,



it's recognised by my missus - and that's good enough for me...





Nick

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 09:50

mmmmm you do talk twaddle at times, and you love to think you have the upper hand but remember he who laughs last laughs longest..

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 10:07

Msg 5, mmmmmetc : (...) The GREEKS live in a country 30 miles to the west.. (...)



===> You never learn, do you? I've told you before - on another board - where the Greeks live. I am shouting now: "300 MILES TO THE WEST, MMMMM!!!". Will you finally remember, you International Expert on anything GC and Greek?!



Check MMMMMM's "expertise" here (click URL): http://tinyurl.com/bw9gwk



PS. It will help a lot when you not only type in a hurry but also read at ease what you typed before annoying us...



PPS. Have a nice day all of yoy!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 10:17

See what I mean, MMMMMM? "yoy" in the message above. Shouldn't that be "you"?

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 10:30

Hello Hans re msg 10



My copyright lawyers will contact you re the use of my photo without permission )))))))

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 10:38

Msg.10

Hans,

Where did Mad Mark say 30 miles instead of 300? I Can't see it

ismet

PS: Guess what??

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 10:57

RE msg 13, Ismet : (...) Where did Mad Mark say 30 miles instead of 300? I Can't see it (...)



Nice one, Ismet! But, guess what? You think you are smart, eh? Now have a look here: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/mm_and_greece_2|72.jpg

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 13:22

Message9, He who laughs last, doesnt get the joke.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 13:44

Message 12,

"Copyright Lawyers" bit strong is it not, you throwing your toys out of the pram. The world is a stage if you choose to put yourself in the firing line be prepared to be shot at now and again. People take things to heart and seem easily offended, If you cant take it dont give it.......... Have a nice day

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 13:48

Blackpoolfan......msg 16.....I think mmmmmm's phasers were set to "tongue in cheek"........evidenced by his uber-smiley at the end !

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 13:52

Cronos,

Last nights alcohol has blurred my vision, looked like a sad face to me thanks for pointing it out.



mmmmmm,

A thousand appologies my friend re message 16

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 16:32

Re msgs 17/18 Cronos and BFfan



Cronos you got it.. and BFFan accepted ;)



Hans has offered "to settle out of court" - in the RoC, of course - by offering me the "TRNC" "deeds" to "his" pad ....



Hey Hans, you haven't reminded the folks about the night Veta and I saw the UFO, yet ......

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 16:44

Dear Hans re msg 11



"see what I mean, MMMMMM? "yoy" in the message above. Shouldn't that be "you"?



yoy Home Boy, dontcha know notin bout spellin' in fings ...?



Guess you might be too old to understand... not enough da "muzac" to be heard in your house...?



Chill , "old" man ( second time, today..)

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 18:10

musin,

you rearly have been in north london far too long.

check out what your family and friends think!

my tc friends think differently.

its ok for you cypriots elsewhere, your ok, nobody is going to take your home!

you can tell it how ever you like, but the ormans case will lead the way.

the trnc is bancrupt(if not for turkeys funding)

who wants it 's e.u membership.

come on musin, its not rocket science to see what is going to happen.



what is it pay back for all those years of british rule in cyprus?

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 18:33

fire starter

my point that i make with this post is ....stop listening to utter garbage ,because that,s what it is.



secondly i have bought a home on greek land and i have properties in britain ,so i am in exactly the same situation as the orams .



you may have some turkish cypriot friends as you keep repeating to people ,but i am a turkish cypriot .



the kktc is bankrupt [if not for turkeys funding] ,so as you are in the know who do you think is going to bail out bankrupt britain.



lastly you quote what is it payback for all those years of british rule in cyprus

i don,t quite understand what you mean ,please explain.



musin

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 19:38

musin

i don't think it is utter garbage( as most of my tc friends don't in our tc village)

it wont affect us!

you cannot make anyone here believe that you are in the same situation as any brit here or the orams, as you said yourself you are a tc!

you are one turkish cypriot and i respect your views but i do not have to agree with them as i speak with my tc friends, and live in a tc village.

(i will add that most of them would not buy exchange/pre74 gc lands.)



this weeks paper says it all, get a copy and read! turkey is the only thing keeping the trnc afloat.

try being around your own people who are suffering and it says it all.

do you think they want to shop in the south? no, needs must!



it is quite clear to me from talking to tc's and gc's that you all hold a grudge against the british for their time here ruling cyprus.

i don't blame you for that.

but there is no need to punish innocent people.

after all the tc's should understand that.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:05

firestarter

"it is quite clear to you from talking to tc,s and gc,s that i hold a grudge against the british for their time here ruling cyprus"



and you have come to this absurd understanding because of your tc and gc friends talking to you and these friends of yours they know me ,i think not ,have you been reading my posts over the months .



you countiniouly get your facts wrong and say things from the top of your head

"most of them will not buy exchange or pre74 gc lands

have you really thought about that remark ,because if you took a minute to think about it ,you would not say it.

i,m sorry rose ,but you really do know very little of cypriots and even less about their politics.



as for the british being in cyprus ,i can only say i have dual nationality ,british and turkish ,so stop discharging garbage with no basis .



musin

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:17

Two Turkish Cypriot families have bought apartments were we have purchased and thats on exchange land ?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:27

msg 23 cant see them shopping in the south have you seen the prices over their

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 20:31

turtle



where firestarter gets her information from only she knows ,most turkish cypriots live on exchange land ,as we are continualy reminded by some of our other posters.





musin

long live the kktc

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 22:33

most of the tcs that shop on the south are the ones that have come to live in the north of cyprus from the uk! one london tc family come quite often to my place of work to buy clothes for there teenage children as apparently theres not much choice in famagusta where they live. the original tcs (very few left!) would not be able to afford to come south as very expencive for them, unless they are working here & getting a decent wage! even the uk tcs that now reside here want reunification as they have stated to me on numourous occasions they want the north of the island to have everything the south have!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 22:36

"they want the north of the island to have everything the south have! "



I can't think of a better example of "be careful what you wish for" !

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:13

suzanne



the original tc,s are the the uk tc,s ousted by greeks in the sixties ,not much left of them ,but as you state suzanne they are coming back ,now they know they are safe.



and no there is plenty of choice in famagusta and all comes from the same place as the clothes in the south,and at the same price ,expensive.



the north is not a third world country suzanne as you try to portray,oh congratulations on your new job as a sales assistant.



musin

long live the kktc

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:23

musin who says i`m a sales assistant??? the tcs from the uk were born in the uk & so were there parents way before the 60s ! & as for the north having the same shops!!! the anwser is no they don`t, there is no M&S, no NEXT no MANGO etc etc



You should be pleased that the tcs want reunification, they don`t all think like you. they see how the north struggles & want the island to reunite just like the gcs & tcs mix in london.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:33

Suzanne...msg 31....do you have sympathy then for"how the north struggles" and has done so for over 30 years?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:39

Suzanne/Juliet

Just keep an eye on the forthcoming elections in the TRNC, I think you maybe in for a big surprise.

AJ

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:41

msg 31

the tc,s in the uk were born in the uk and so were their parents,way before the 60s,that is the most stupid remark i have heard,i was born in cyprus and so were my parents .



is it not yourself that calls me a uk turk ,if i were you i would leave the party now.



musin

long live the kktc in peace

Yvonne



Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 273

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:52

Hi Musin,

I have been following (intermittently) this thread. You appear to have issues, and in my opinion, these can't be resolved on the forum.

Please relax and resolve your own issues.

Be well.

Yvonne

LeylaS


Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
25/01/2009 23:54

Hi Juliet (who is Suzanne by the way? Is Juliet someone who used to post as Suzanne) Out of curiosity, can you tell me why you feel that most TC's are in favour of reunification? I agree with you GC's and TC's do integrate well in London. However, I hardly remember a time when I have spoken about the "Cyprus problem" with any of my GC friends, some of them are very close friends! It is like we have this silent respect for one another NOT to discuss it out of politeness, we drop food around to one another, we talk of our families but nothing more. Why do you think that is?

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 00:10

yvonne

i do have issues yes with people who post just to annoy and more importantly

talk rubbish and continously put down turkish cypriots and the kktc ,now suzanne has been doing this for a long time ,she spouts out rubbish all the time.



leylas

very well put ,i just like to add how many tc,s would confide in a gc with their true feelings and visa versa,no disrespect too anyone .



musin

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 00:23

musin my friend

It will all be sorted soon, bring on the elections.

AJ

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 00:26

Come on AJ....Spill the beans

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 12:35

musin

first of all i didn't mean you in a personal way but was talking about tc's and gc's in general. there are still lots of feelings regarding the time of british rule here.



most of my tc friends were here during the war, they weren't given any exchange land, and as i said most of them take the view that they would not be interested in greek cypriot land.

you think i have a lack of understanding of the tc people?

i live with them, all of my best friends here are tc's.

i also see the other side of things as i have a family member who is turkish.

i do find there is a big attude difference between those tc's who have never left cyprus and those who have. on lots of issues.



juliet,

you say you think the tc's which shop in the south are uk tc's?

when i go shopping most of the people i meet are tc's who are not uk tc's.

i met the local judge, a retired general from the army, many policemen, (who have recently been told they are not allowed to go anymore) and many many more l

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 13:48

hi firestarter



what a shame they are not allowed over to shop anymore! is there a reason?

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 21:44

apparently they are now not allowed, as of about two weeks ago.

i don't know if it was some sort of direct order or they were just asked not to?

hubby went over and got our friends twins some clothes as dad couldn't go.

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 22:00

thats dreadful! so much for free movement through the island!



thats one of the reasons this island needs to reunify! for goodness sake we are now in 2009!!!!!

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
26/01/2009 22:02

sorry that should have said, free movement after the so called border control!!