Infiltration

meddmale


Joined: 19/11/2007
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 19:59

Cyprus 44 seams to have been infiltrated by GC`s to spread propaganda and make mischief



I have noticed several forms lately that seam to have hidden agendas



History teaches us that the GC`s like nothing more than to try and grind us into the ground, they will stop at nothing and miss no opportunity to keep us down



They stifle any international company which shows any interest in investing in the North, they try to stop holiday advertising and international tour company’s from promoting NC



They even stop sports events between the North & the rest of the world



I don’t suppose this will be the last attempt by the GC`s to scaremonger, on these forums after all, they have had years of practice



Meddmale

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 22:33

they did it as well on an other french forum - my friend and my son are promoting north cyprus to french people asking information- quite a few time wen we were giving informations about the north - places where to stay and so they email us - knwing that they do not have the possibility a seing our e-mail adress to get more information and get direct contact - we never answer !!!

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 22:38

my vote for best propaganda site is "trnc property warning"



this clever and sinister site uses real clippings and actual reports,

which taken by themselves make the trnc look far scarier than it really is

while of course overlooking the spivs and beauracratic delays

well known elsewhere on the island/elsewhere in the med even



a hint of desperation is found their section on fake designer watches



they purport to feature a section on the "good guys"

as if to "balance" their propaganda onslaught against north cyprus:

'course for how to really deal with trnc pitfalls, go back through cyp 44



one of the moaning minnies headlined "victoria's loss/victoria sloss" (geddit?)

tried to creep into our 44 forum early last year, how very very sad



andre

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 22:42

I hope we are all intelligent enough to ignore it and I for one know where I stand on the Cyprus issues and ignore all of the 'advice' posted by GC sympathizers.

Long live the TRNC

AJ

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 22:50

makes you wonder why on a north cyprus forum,



there are the phoney do-gooders setting themselves up



as moral arbiters on one of the world's most bitter and complex disputes



but hang on:



if we assemble counter-arguements and reason with these creeps



aren't we exploring properly what are after all real and vital issues?



hmmmmmm?



andre

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 23:04

andre

No I made up my mind a long time ago.

I have availed myself of more information than has been provided by our GC sympathizers on this board and I am fairly confident on the outcome of the talks and more to the point the result of the forthcoming TRNC elections.

The TRNC is here to stay.

AJ

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
28/01/2009 23:43

AJ



In the 25 years that the TRNC has been declared only Turkey recognise it. Hardly the pedigree of a country which is here to stay.



The TRNC in its current form will never be recognised after the various UN resolutions

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:06

Stubs

For what it is worth my take on the Cyprus situation is thus: Turkey has always looked at making the TRNC a province in the event that everything goes base over apex with regards to re-unification talks and EU accession talks. Now with the TRNC elections looming and the UBP being at the moment 'party of the month' (And ask yourself why the elections have been called) What do you think is going to happen?

AJ

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:17

AJ



At present the TRNC is a province of Turkey despite is claims of independence

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:21

Stubs

Thanks for your reply but you have not answered the questions that I specifically asked you.

AJ

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:27

meddmale,



A sound observation. I hope the moderators will not allow the overall goodwill, that



characterises the postings on this board, and good faith, to be corrupted by their toxic



influence.



wyn

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:39

Infiltrators caught wearing false colours should be dealt with in time honoured manor and put up against a wall and .........!

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 00:49

AJ



I thought it was already agreed that any settlement will be based on bi-communal/bi-zonal federation. Turkey may keep a small base on the island.



i hope this answers your question.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 01:12

msg 9 stubs and so to is the roc only now being recognised by the eu a mere meaningless drop in the ocean, granted rights that should never have been granted until the issues had been resolved, roc is in eu thru the back door ,they are meaningless and contribute nothing theyre already in eu debt ,turkey on the other hand offer more than drunken tourists ,ie as long as theres terrorism in the middle east usa,uk and nato forces will need a rapid deployment base and turkey gives them this,turkey will be in the eu sooner rather than later nothing greeks can do about it ,roc will once again be a province of greece , but an unwanted one lol

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 01:21

rowlo



It is very difficult to comment on your post msg 14 due to the lenth of the sentence.



The USA already has bases in Turkey, the UK already has the SBA areas in Cyprus all within close proximity of the middle east.



Before Turkey gets into the EU they must meet certain criteria one of which is the customs charter which up to now they are not allowing Cyprus flagged vessels into their ports etc.



The ROC has never been a province of Greece and never will be. Please check your history.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 09:50

msg 13.



As we do not know what is officially said in discussions you cannot state anything that has been "agreed". Until a document is produced, sanctioned by the UN and EU and the presidents cat we will never know what the result is.



All the talk on these forums on the subject is just that and for the most part is designed to get people upset and angry. Maybe Stubs, you are one of the GC infiltrators that is being talked about elsewhere??

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 10:33

To the Dave's, I know, who've posted in this thread... I suppose *I'm* a "GC infiltrator", too ? :D

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 13:36

Re msg 16



For someone to claim that cyprusishome maybe you should care to do some research on your "home".



The bi-communal bi-zonal solution was agreed by Mr Denktash and is part of a UN resolution. In the various press statements which have been released to date negotiations are on that bases with technical groups.



If you care to search the UN website you will see plenty to back up these facts.



As for me being a GC "infiltrator" I can assure you I am not GC.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 13:41

Hi Stubs re msg 18 - it should be pointed out that Mr D was not a fan of Annan and advised a NO vote...



He was NOT at the Burgenstock summit where the final version of Anna was "hatched"



He was "out of the picture" by then.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 13:54

Common sense says that the only reasonable and fair solution is to return Cyprus to it's pre-colonial status.



Hand it all back to Turkey.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 14:04

RE msg 20, Harlequin : (...) return Cyprus to it's pre-colonial status. Hand it all back to Turkey. (...)



===> Ha! Turkey didn't exist when Great Britain first leased and than confiscated Cyprus from - the Ottoman Empire...

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 14:11

Mark



Thanks for pointing that out.You are of course correct when you say that mr D was not a fan of Annan. However he still agreed that a solution would be based on a bi-communal bi zonal federation. The basis of the current negotiations is the same now in that respect.



I was just trying to show "cyprusishome" how long a bi-communal/bi-zonal federation has been talked about as the basis for a settlement. If he searches the UN website he will find a resoltution to that affect.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 14:22

Hi Stubs re msg 22



Be assured I knew you were and are capable of "disagreeing in a civil manner" ;)



So, in that vein, I suggest that Mr D went through the motions but in no way EVER agreed to a bi-communal bi zonal federation solution. His attitude was he wanted recognition of "TRNC" and then we'll talk..



He advised a NO to a plan that proposed EXACTLY that.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 14:31

AJ take a bow you speak for many of us..meddmale I think there are several infiltrators too, I best not name them for fear of being banned again ...

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 15:56

meddmale,

firstly lots of the people who are members here are using user names of other people from other forums.

they are not those people.



why would you be so worried about gc's joining this forum?

i'm sure this was not set up to be a racist forum!

why shouldn't they join?

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
29/01/2009 16:16

BTW - WE ABAG WERE Victoria Sloss at the beginning of our campaign due to the fact that we had been subjected to many threats - this is explained clearly on the blog. And as mentioned hundreds of times before, we write only as Aga Buyers Action Group and that is why Victoria sloss disappeared WELL OVER a year ago when the blog was formed



ABAG

xxxxxxx

meddmale


Joined: 19/11/2007
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
07/02/2009 00:10

Fire starter



If supporting your country is racist count me in



If we reach any agreement other than a two state solution with the GC`s the first thing I will do is buy an AK47 to greet my new GC neighbours when they pay me an uninvited night time visit as was their custom pre 1974, I hope I wont need it but something tells me I will

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
07/02/2009 00:21

Message 27.



Funny enough, I've just happen to have received a consignment of AK47s, I was hoping to thin out the member list a bit in a psychotic moment but I can certainly do you a deal meddmale.



Lem

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
07/02/2009 00:26

Lemtich...are they the "extra powers" that Izzet has given you mods....AK47's ?

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
07/02/2009 00:48

I think it's fairly easy to spot the GC sympathisers. Just don't let them wind you up.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
07/02/2009 00:59

Message 29.



Naw cronos. Just assimilation . Resistance is futile!



Lem



7 of 12

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 11:05

Dear Arthur re msg 30



What do you think constitutes a "GC sympathiser".. ?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 15:21

Whats the problem.



You know who they are, so you know what direction their reply to a thread will take.

If you dont wish/need to read it, just use fast scroll on mouse,scroll down looking at the left column with names ,passing those you dont wish to read.Thats what I do.



I dont have a problem with a GC sympathiser,as long as they can see both sides of the coin,and will listen.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 16:26

is it moderators or modulators................ beam me up scottie

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 16:53

Nige you have definitely lost the plot, I would suggest you spend a bit more time looking after your own board as opposed to trying to sort this one out.

Take care

AJ

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 17:20

aj that has been your conceited opinion for 3.5 years now perhaps you should change the record !!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 17:55

Blimey 3.5 years? Where does the time go?