Dissent on the boards

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 10:02

Nige you have a good forum but your rules are too tight, there is a lot of dissent on this forum and you could benefit greatly, you just need to relax a bit more, Skogsy has left and I fully support his comments...the moderation is over the top, stifling and biased.



All serious postings are closed or deleted and stupid ones encouraged..



Please rethink your rules..



Ta.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 10:35

Sorry Mike...it's a bit early over here and I'm confused!



Is this a comment about Cyprus 44..Nige's Board..Or both?



Cheers.

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 10:49

Morning Cronos, Skogsy has left cos of the moderation on here and I think more will follow, nige would benefit but he needs to accept that not everyone is always gonna be kissy kissy ...

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 11:02

Ahhh.....I'm with you now.



Yes,as I've said before,there is room for both types of Board.



Nige's Board is still young,and as you say "kissy kissy" and happy clappy.

However,for it to thrive it must evolve,and that will bring the problems that you've picked up on,on here.Otherwise it will just remain as a dozen mates chatting about their day on a BB instead of in a Bar !



On Cyprus 44 , the moderation is a necessary evil , and because the moderators are individuals it does sometimes throw up inconsistencies!

However,anyone who has been moderated,deep down can generally accept why....they might not like it,but then some people are against rules altogether !

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 11:19

I am speaking for Deecyprus here cos she keeps getting banned, this time for sarcasm..SARCASM.. I mean come on this is getting bloody silly...we are being treated like 4 year olds, and before a certain unnamed idiot who posts just to annoy comes in...and watch cos he will my msg to him is dont even go there



I can accept I was banned before ...I guess.. but not over sarcasm...differing opinions create debate and debate is what keeps this board alive and the revenue coming in...

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 11:32

maybemike..msg5



Ahhh...this is where my sympathies start waning!



Sarcasm is a fine debating tool...IF it is used in a humourous,knowing,tongue-in-cheek way.

However,being antagonistic,vitriolic,and using personal insults should not be confused with sarcasm.

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 11:47

Cronos since Dee's last ban she has not been at all contenious in fact quite the reverse, but sarcasm is accepted in many forms..she puts her point across and she gets very passionate about certain things...but to get a ban for sarcasm is absolutely ludicrous..

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 11:55

Well.....maybemike and myself are getting on famously this morning,but doesn't anyone else have an opinion about this matter?

Cabbie


Joined: 30/01/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 12:06

Sorry I am lost, who or what is Nige's Board ?



Is it something to do with the for sale section at the bottom of the list of threads ?

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 12:11

Cabbie.....it is another Cyprus forum set up by a long standing member on here...Littlenige.



Quite a few members from here moved across...and some continue to use both boards.



It was set up to be a "friendlier" forum,and concentrates on the day to day stuff rather than the heavier poltical issues.



I have visited it,but am not a member,but it looks like a complimentary Board to this one.

Each to their own as they say!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 12:35

maybemike,



"we are being treated like 4 year olds"................................Quite!



cronus



"sarcasm is a fine debating tool"..........................................Quite!



cronus



"antagonistic ,vitriolic! ,personal insults................................Quite!



seems simple enough to me.!



wyn

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 12:37

I have to admit I find the other board pretty boring, very happy clappy with an occasional dig at this board thrown in, but if this board continues to ban people for every little thing then it will become the same, let people express an opinion now and then please.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 12:40

Hi Hattikins - long time no hear!



Agree, I too find the other board petty boring. As someone else posted, it's like a few mates having a chat about everyday matters. Still, each to their own. Feelings are still running high on this board, but at least it sometimes makes for interesting reading.



J

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 13:39

your correct Wicksy

nothing like a good hot topic to get your dander up

adds a bit of spice to the board.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 13:44

Hi Wicks

Been in Cyprus for a few weeks, lovely !!!!

I was surprised when I got back to see how many regular members are missing from the board, for what reasons I do not know, but since then I just check it out as I haven,t found anything at all interesting to debate.

I must say it is not the same without the likes of Pike, love him or hate him at least he kept us on our toes, Groucho is much missed too as are many others who could always raise a laugh or take part in healthy debate, very sad really to see things go this way, let us hope it improves soon and gets back to the great board it once was.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 13:45

The other board is very boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Good if you have problems getting too sleep though!

Cabbie


Joined: 30/01/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 14:16

i have just been on it seems ok, very well laid out but if you find it boring why go there ?

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 14:28

because its there, like a mountian.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 14:33

Message 18



Just in case there is something of interest on there, we can live in hope.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 14:55

Nobody has to join in with the general everyday chit chat, there is a book club, News, Sport, Pet corner, Music section, Items for sale,including Property! North Cyprus tourism, where I personally spent a lot of time letting people know about my experience with Getting a container over to N.C from the UK.

You don't have to go into 'General Chat'

Vicki

Cabbie


Joined: 30/01/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:08

Vicki.



Many thanks for letting me kow about that, I have just joined it is very different to this and I agree with cronus



" Yes,as I've said before,there is room for both types of Board. "



it is a very well laid out and informative forum loads of information.



and VERY VERY EASY TO USE.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:16

I do enjoy posting on here to from time to time, and have not personally had any attacks, insults, or sarcasm hurled at me, and must admit I cringe when I do see it happen to other people.

Cabbie


Joined: 30/01/2009
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:16

I just found http://www.phpbb88.com/northerncyprus that is also very well presented.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:18

britvic

shut up you idiot [joke]

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:20

Kenny, here's the first then! LOl

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:30

sorry brit, could'nt resist !

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:34

No offence taken Kenny.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:46

There are obviously different boards that are set up to cater for different aspects of living in the TRNC. This board allows political debate but with that goes a moderation level that hopefully stops posters from getting too wound up and aggressive. Every board has a natural cycle of losing members and gaining members and this board will survive the same as other boards are surviving. people will find a board that slots into their way of thinking and posting. What I find interesting is the amount of board members that have been temporarily banned and criticize the moderation but still come back to post once their ban is finished.

AJ

arrry



Joined: 19/08/2008
Posts: 1235

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 15:59

A J

Spot on with that post.There is room for everybody somewhere.



If you don't like it here go somewhere else. What could be simpler ?



As you say there is a place for all types of boards, you just have to find



the one for you .As for the banned members that come back.Well it must



be the right place for them !!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:01

trncc

That is exactly the problem with Bulleting Boards. I posted a fact, you regard it as sarcasm, others would regard it as a laugh, others would disregard it as irrelevant.

So what makes you right about your assumption that I have been sarcastic in my posting?

Take care

AJ

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:03

Members join a board, get board leave and join another board, there must be a board out there that caters for the get board easy type's.



Cooper

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:06

trncc

you've only been on here a month, if you had been here towards

the end of last year, then believe me you would know why we do

need moderators.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:06

trncc wrote "They come back to post because they like to post and have somthing valid to post,but some moderators views of posts are not the same as the poster,why should we be judged in a forum and taken control of by a moderator,i think a forum without moderators would be what is needed!"



Honestly trncc you would not say that if you were here a couple of months ago. All hell broke loose, and not a Mod in sight, slightly overboard now I agree.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:07

trncc

'i think a forum without moderators would be what is needed!'



I challenge you to find one and if you do I can guarantee that it will not stay unmoderated for long.



AJ

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:13

Of course we need moderators otherwise it would be a free for all, we have seen postings that were nothing but filth, threats and insults, that was extremely unpleasant for all concerned. So long as the moderators allow some freedom of speech it should even itself out.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:17

trncc

Now you are being sarcastic



'might get some of cyp44s cast offs!!'

Some would say you would be welcome to them.

AJ

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:30

kenny



Spot on with your message 35 BUT you don't need 10 or more of them. In my view 2-4 would be more than enough, then you would get consistency.



There was a case a couple of weeks ago where part of a posting was deleted by a moderator, yet the info deleted was already in the public domain.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:45

Looks as though another one has escaped folks, what a pity.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:53

Why does that not surprise me.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 16:58

Hi All,



Was not "the latest pie in the sky, Las Vegas type project" by mmmmnm not exactly



the type of thread that Cyprus 44 specialises in. Read it...and you will see exactly what the problems are.!!!!



All Cyprus 44 needed was STOP the personal insults, the vitriol, and the backbiting. Hosts of



moderators were never needed, and has been counterproductive to the good running of this board.



It was when this rule WAS NOT enforced that it all fell apart.



This type of posting, without the backbiting, the vitriol and the personal insults. IS the way forward, with a LIGHT finger on the delete thread, post closed, and you are banned button, is what is required.



My humble opinion, that is all.



wyn

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 17:09

Here we go again.

Accept the way this board is run or move on.

AJ

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 17:16

I always said 600 Moderators was too many, does anyone ever listen?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 17:33

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.

irishwrath


Joined: 22/12/2008
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
01/02/2009 17:36

If you use this forum, your a guest, in the same way when you go to your friends house you follow their rules.