God and Jesus C. didn't and don't exist

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:46

How come the Vikings, Chinese, American natives, Inuits, the population of Soli (small kingdom in Cyprus), etc etc, didn't know about the amazing adventures in Galilee (now the West Bank, Israel) of the so-called "saviour, Jesus C."?! And why would the Vikings and the population of Germania, who worshipped Wodan (also known as Wotan, Woten, amongst other names and other gods), be wrong with their gods?!



PS. If you're a believer and feel insulted by *my* post, please do remember that I feel regularly insulted by the repetition of *your* fairy tale about Jesus C.



PPS. OK, there we go...

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:49

DC again we agree, this is worrying lol. I believe in Darwin's theory of evolution.

Cabbie


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:51

Well mr hans



As you strut around lambousa market in yer clogs I see the sun is shining the world is well and wish you every happiness in your delusional world.



When you pop your clogs should I say i told you so ?? or are you absoloute in your lack of belief ?



What would you like done with your earthly remains ?

kenny



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Posts: 405

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:54

whatever works for you.

& each to their own, comes to mind.

Macha


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Posts: 650

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:56

There's only one God and she's black.

livethedream


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Posts: 455

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:56

DutchCrusader



''If you're a believer and feel insulted by *my* post, please do remember that I feel regularly insulted by the repetition of *your* fairy tale about Jesus C.''



The thing is, I don't remember a thread being started about God or Jesus Christ - so I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve with this.



I deleted your last post regarding this topic - I will leave this on, unless someone feels very strongly about it.



livethedream

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:57

RE msg 3, cabbie : (...) As you strut around lambousa market in yer clogs (...)



===> 1 : Clogs?! I'm afraid you need new specs, cabbie. 2 : My earthly remains?! I couldn't care less what's done with 'em.

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 19:58

I suspect the reactions you get will be more measured than if you had offered the same suggestion regarding Allah.

Dusterbruce


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Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:01

He is insulting millions of believers all over the world.

What on earth is the relevance to a forum on North Cyprus?



Methinks its time to leave this board

kenny



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Posts: 405

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:04

there's only one god & she's my

X wifes lawyer !

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:10

RE msg 6, livethedream : (...) The thing is, I don't remember a thread being started about God or Jesus Christ - so I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve with this. I deleted your last post regarding this topic - I will leave this on, unless someone feels very strongly about it. (...)



===> This is hardly anything else than a treat, livethedream. One might even call this "coaching the members by a moderator". Why don't you let grown-up people decide themselves whether they feel strongly about it - or not? Should we (or I) first ask permission to discuss other subjects than eating out at Guido's and what have you?

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:12

I don't have a problem with this. Everyone has an opinion and Dutch is stating his.

Macha


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Posts: 650

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:15

"there's only one god & she's my X wifes lawyer !"



Does that mean she cocked up the settlement in your favour? Whit a stottir.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:16

RE msg 9, Dusterbruce : (...) He is insulting millions of believers all over the world. (...)



===> And your point is? Millions of people once believed that the word was flat, the sun turned around earth etc. We should never stop searching for the the truth.

kenny



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Posts: 405

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:18

I wish Macha !!!!

flowerfairy


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Posts: 1277

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:22

message 13....................

you are soo funny......lol

You should start your own thread with those, can't remember what it's called,

when you change the letters around......lol

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:30

RE msg 9, Dusterbruce : (...) He is insulting millions of believers all over the world. (...)



===> And your point is? Millions of people once believed that the word* was flat, the sun turned around earth etc. We should never stop searching for the the truth.



* Stupid typo: word = world

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 20:34

Well, this tells us nothing new about God or Jesus Christ and everything we need to know about DutchCrusader.

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:10

Dutch Drusader the real truth is that nobody knows.. that includes you cloggy. Everyone though is entitled to their beliefs and should not try to enforce those beliefs on anyone else.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:12

He's just attention seeking as usual.

Cabbie


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:12

he is having fish fingers for tea !!

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:15

RE msg 19, rocky : (...) Everyone though is entitled to their beliefs and should not try to enforce those beliefs on anyone else.



and should not try to enforce those beliefs on anyone else.

and should not try to enforce those beliefs on anyone else.

and should not try to enforce those beliefs on anyone else.



Exactly.(...)

Stewart


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Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:20

Dear DC.....I do not believe in God or the decisions of the EU!



peace to all

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:20

give it 20 min. I know there is no god or whatever you call him.. There is also no jesus.. Ther was never one. Call it sun, earth, planets, water, air, wind.. whatever.. But not god and jesus.. This would be to easy.

Try this facts and see if you can take it:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

zeitgeist is the first part and zeitgeist Addendum the 2nd part.. OPEN YOUR EYES!

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:23

my muslim friends believe that god is god.

he doesn't just belong to christian or muslims, but we all share the same one.

even if we practise things in a different ways under different religions.



a close muslim friend found a small lead image of christ in her garden, she gave it to me and was so happy it had found a home. i was please because i like all things old.



personally i am a non believer.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:26

http://www.religionfacts.com/big_religion_chart.htm

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:28

http://www.hallvworthington.com/whyjesus.html



ROFL

kenny



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Posts: 405

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:29

lets face it religion has killed more people

on this planet than any other reason & still

going on to this day !

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:35

god says thou shallt not kill?? never mentioned anything about religion ?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:39

RE msg 26 & 27, Harlequin : R-CH2OH?

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:43

"I am the way the truth and the life; NO MAN cometh unto the Father BUT BY ME."

-- Jesus Christ, John 14:6



I suspect that gives rise to the religion.

rocky


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Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 21:56

message 24 cobblers you dont know anything you just think you know

mikelapta



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Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:00

For years I fuffed about with Christianity,choir boy,etc.4 years ago I married a very devout Muslim from Uzbekistan.There were so many differences in culture,which eventually drove us apart.But she taught me so many wonderful things about faith.I am actually wearing an Uzbek praying robe as I write this.

I could stand up in a crowd and say,yes ,I was a fornicator,a sinner.

There is but one God whatever his name.Go outside,look at those wonderful stars.Just for looking at?No we are just a part of a Universal world.

My wife gave me a prayer mat.I pray every morning.I know there is someone up there to hear them,I feel better for that,and I know he controls my life.

Soothsayer


Joined: 19/11/2008
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:14

yes, thruth said.. And TRNC was recognised, Garry robb is free and all fish can fly and breath air. I am wearing an mexican hat. I am a sinner.. whoever, but: save you all!

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:35

did you know that long before that jesus bloke, there were many similar beings whom were supposed to have been born to a virgin, attended by angels n shepherds,died on a cross on a tree, and rose from the dead blah blah. theyre all stories created to confuse and control humans

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:38

All religions put fear into folk...go against us, or youl suffer. The sumarian sun god n moon goddess, from babylon 2000bc symbol is the same todays islam uses

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:40

Species evolve to better fit themselves to the world around them but the Dutchess is such a fish out of water than only divine intervention can explain him.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:42

I hope the orangeman goes to heaven after his death.....See how he will get out of that one!!!

horselover


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Posts: 129

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:42

the fish god nimrod, is from ancient sumaria, [then called babaylon, after], its symbol is worn by a catholic pope! The church of rome is the church of babylon under a dif name. All religions go back to one...sumarian.

horselover


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Posts: 129

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:46

who's the orange man..the man from del monte?

Soothsayer


Joined: 19/11/2008
Posts: 134

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:51

thats why I say: watch the movie. Its worth a go.. You get the needed religion lesson. In all terms:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
03/02/2009 22:56

Do you see what you have started now Hans? but I guess ultimately it is a good advertisement for your historical lectures.

AJ

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 00:51

its a nice topic, one of the best here on the board.. everybody is happy - except the non believers.. whoever they are - whichever side they are.. cheer up! god is in all of us... pih mhhp.. Jah bless you all. bismilllah - amen

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 01:00

gods not in me if i dont believe he is sooth

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 01:01

btw: we will never know! sorry what? How should we know? what proof do we have? what do we believe in? what we see, what we feel, what we taste? what else should we believe in? some old storybook? harry potter? Lord of the rings? We all know the truth, but many are afraight of it and stay within their "safe bed of lies".. . It would be hard to believe for many that there is no "great spender" They have no answers for the "how"? But thats okay.. we all need a safe harbour, for some its the church for others its their family, friends, reality. Give it a try. What other chance do you have? wait till Jes. comes down to release you all from your sinns? You dont believe this seriously, do you? What is, if I say I am the one, to release you.. Do you believe me? Some followers please.. I can hold great speeches..

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 01:12

Iv'e read the bible its rubbish he dies in the end............

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 01:36

He`ll be back.. Like the terminator..

joseph


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Posts: 709

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 02:09

Poor old DutchCrusader... still doesn't get it



If there was no God there would be no Atheists... like you ... understand now?



God Bless... Joseph

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 13:05

very very intelligent explanation. Now I understand. This is the final proof. There is a god. Thank you for your scientific explanation, showing me the truth. you opend my eyes. I am right on the way to the next - church - camii or whatever. PRAY

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 13:46

joseph



Surely, if there was no god, everyone would correctly be atheist.

wackyjim



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Posts: 760

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 14:52

Interesting post....whatever ones believes in it really does not explain the true meaning of life whatever that is. If anyone can tell me why we are all here doing what we are doing at this particular moment in time then it will make my day!!!!

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 15:03

wackyjim...msg51



Answer..



Wasting....our...precious....lives.

wackyjim



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Posts: 760

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 15:05

cronos



Your probably right...I see the tree now where is the rope

Cabbie


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Posts: 95

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 15:19

Voodo is just a myth a superstition ..........................



Any one got a lump of wax pair of clogs and a red hot needle shall we test the theory ?

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 15:28

Jesus did exist - fact. Whether he was God is another matter. Either way, we will all find out one day - later rather than sooner Inshallah!!!

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 15:34

Msg 55...."Jesus did exist - fact"



FACT ?



Where is the evidence for this FACT,or do you believe that the Bible is a historically accurate document and not a collection of stories and morality tales?

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 17:21

The trial of Jesus Cronos, is well documented by the Romans. The crux of the Jesus thing is whether you believe he was God or not.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 17:26

.....the son of God



or whether you believe he rose from the dead.

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 17:26

I believe he existed as a person...but I don't believe all the hype surrounding him !

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/02/2009 17:40

RE msg 31 : (...) "I am the way the truth and the life; NO MAN cometh unto the Father BUT BY ME." -- Jesus Christ, John 14:6. I suspect that gives rise to the religion. (...)



===> What a pity too many people only seem to remember that once a week -- in church.



===> Some board members seem to be sorry that it's no longer allowed nor a habit to burn non-believers at the stake...

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:01

ROFL



Keep taking the medication.

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:15

Hans.



Are you really just a natrual born trouble maker?



Everyone knows that while there are choices to be made, some will believe and others will choose not to...it's basic human nature...so why waste time stirring the pot and insulting good honest folk with your childish threads?

Do you perhaps do this because you can...or simply because it amuses you?

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:25

Re message 60.

What a load of tosh, I am a believer, my choice, my right, at no time have I or any other board member that I am aware of expressed the opinion that non believers should be burned at the stake, although at times that might not be a bad idea (joke)

You are being deliberately provocative as usual and perhaps you would consider showing a little respect for your fellow man, you expect your views to be respected don't you. Why not seek out some activity or the such like as you are clearly short of something useful to occupy your time.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:26

Knitting perhaps

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:26

RE 62, daisy_dukes: I'm kind of celebrating - my way - that Darwin was born 200 years ago. So this is a very satisfying thread. And don't forget: no-one HAS to read this thread, no-one HAS to reply and the headline was clear enough (in my opinion).

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:28

hattikins...



I believe Hans just likes to keep his threads at the top of the page...probably makes him feel rather important...i think instead of getting angry, we should perhaps pity him instead...

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:31

Daisy,

very true, as a Christian I must be more sympathetic towards this poor deluded man.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:34

we could always say a prayer for him... lmao

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:39

It's just attention seeking, there will be tears before bedtime.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:40

DC's post is just to stir up people and in MY opinion is a load of crap. His latest on liars etc is of the same provoking intent.



msg 66 & 67 say it all about this s.. person.

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:43

I often wonder how a person who goes out of their way to upset others, can hold their head up in public...especially in such a small place like North Cyprus.

I for one would be too embarrassed...

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:46

If only he were Dutch. He is really Afrikaans which goes a long way to explaining the antagonistic streak. He thinsk that by abusing everybody and everything he might overcome the devastating disadvantage of being Africaans.



His seeming obsession with correct English etc. is only to draw attention away from the fact that his Dutch is that of a 17th Century Dutch peasant farmer.

daisy dukes


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Posts: 3815

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:50

I once read a post of his about speaking many languages...hmmm



could that be American, Australian, Scottish...etc



hehe

jurgen


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Posts: 77

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 18:52

Are you sure Harlequin ? I have to admit that I replied a few posts from DC in dutch ( I'm from Belgium , Flanders so my motherlanguage is indeed dutch( or flemish but it's almost the same) and indeed he never answered in dutch..

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:06

Yep, definately a "Crunchie."

jurgen


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Posts: 77

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:07

Whats a " Crunchie " ?

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:18

An Africaaner. Makes a crunchie noise 'cos he's got rocks in his head.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11280

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:18

Well, I call it a day. It was nice (...) debating with the creationists and believers in intelligent design. Amazing how easy you get angry and feel insulted when an evolutionist/Darwinist doesn't agree with your views/beliefs and tells you so. The right to tell "the truth" is for believers only, isn't it? Believe or shut up - is that the "Christian spirit"? Less praying and more common sense would be advisable. Have a good evening everyone.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:23

You have not put forward one sensible arguement for Dawinism, indeed none at all, you merely gratuitously insulted others' religion.



It was never your intention to debate anything. Yours was just a cowardly unprincipled assault on others beliefs which are often strongly held. You are then cheap enough to pretend that you were intent on a reasonable discussion. What a pathetic person you are.



I challange you to nip on down to the mosque and tell them what you think of their god and their beliefs.



Or are you too cowardly?

joseph


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Posts: 709

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:29

Of Pride And God.... and Crusaders Dutch?



For what of Hans who prays not God

Decries He is not there

What altars tell what pews to kneel

What words to teach in prayer?



What persuasions calmly offer

What hope to gently wish

For Hans who first must create God

To claim... He don't exist?



Such altars have not yet been built

Such pews as yet not fixed

Such words not spoke,persuasions told

For pride and God... don't mix !



God Bless... Joseph

joseph


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Posts: 709

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:35

Hi Harlequin.... aged 10 ....



"Out of the mouth of babes... "



Joseph

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:42

RE msg 79, Harlequin : (...) I challange you to nip on down to the mosque and tell them what you think of their god and their beliefs. Or are you too cowardly? (...)



===> I'm not challenged by an anonymous keyboard hero, bravely hiding behind fake information in his member profile.

Harlequin


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Posts: 346

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:50

No question of hiding. I simply chose not to disclose any personal information on a public bulletin board. Previous experience when some lunatic identified me and then my daughter against whom he issued threats. I learnt the stupidity of disclosing information the hard way. I will not make the same mistake twice.

Soothsayer


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Posts: 134

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 19:50

was your wife realy a virgin? just wondering..

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/02/2009 20:45

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was serving no purpose.