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Val44


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03/02/2009 20:18

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Please could all mods be like Lem and pull people up on their spelling mistakes.

One mod on a solo crusade is just not fair.



DutchCrusader



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03/02/2009 20:23

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Dear Val44, I appreciate your request - I wish to improve my use of the beautiful English language, which is almost impossible reading this board. However, allow me two small remarks. A crusade should be called a Crusade. And a solo Crusade didn't and does not exist, because a mass movement can't be done solitarily.



Val44


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03/02/2009 20:32

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Dutch. You are wrong sir.

Apart from being a busybody. Your remarks are of course quite wrong.





http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=166045§ioncode=26



newlad



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03/02/2009 20:33

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Val,

What about people who really do struggle with their spelling.Wouldnt your point be seen as victimmisashone,

Paul.



cronos


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03/02/2009 20:37

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Val



1.Start an antagonistic post based on a personal attack.

2.Someone replies who questions your remarks.

3.You launch a personal attack against this second person.



All in less than quarter of an hour.....well done !



kenny



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03/02/2009 20:40

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this is discrimination against bat spellars !



rowlo



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sum peeple sa it as it sounds bcase theyre not all english



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 20:41

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DutchCrusader



You English is very good. Your vocabulary is excellent and you grammar is spot on but for some strange reason you can't put it all together. Everything you say sound rude and aggressive even when you don't appear to mean it and are trying to be funny. All very odd really.



newlad



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Spoken like a twue Harlequin my fwiend.



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 3, Val44 : (...) You are wrong sir. (...)



===> To score your point you redirect me to a site where the wrong headline reads: "Solo crusade to bring justice to generals of the killing fields". Hardly convincing, I'd say, because, again, a Crusade was a mass movement (although in the Middle Ages it was known as a mass pilgrimage, sanctioned by the Pope).



PS. Maybe Lem can tell me if sir - in this case - should be written as sir or as Sir? (Forget the comma after "wrong sir" in Val44's quote, Lem).



Macha


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03/02/2009 20:48

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Lower case "c" for "crusade" unless a specific named one is being cited, surely DC?



(sub's blue pencil at the ready)



hattikins


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03/02/2009 20:49

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How do you spell crap.



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 8, harlequin : (...) You English is very good. Your vocabulary is excellent and you grammar is spot on but for some strange reason you can't put it all together. Everything you say sound rude and aggressive even when you don't appear to mean it and are trying to be funny. All very odd really. (...)



===> Damn! So I'm NOT perfect?!!



PS. "You English" and "you grammar" is also very good, Harlequin...



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 20:53

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DutchCrusader



You really shouldn't concern yourself with typo's under the pretence that they are spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. It just shows you up as being analy retentive.



The-Wicks


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I think DC's command of the English language is excellent. Bear in mind that it is his second language and his English is a lot better than my Dutch!



His English is also a lot better that some for whom English is their first language.



J



lovingcyprus


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03/02/2009 21:00

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Val44



Before you start pulling people up with their spelling mistakes I suggest you put your own house in order.



Ronnie Scotts should be Ronnie Scott's



Harlequin


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"His English is also a lot better that some for whom English is their first language."



That is true and like many Dutch he is probably fluent in several languages. So what. That is part of their culture.



It is patently not part of the Engish culture to learn foreign languages fluently and quite obviously many English people do not speak what is called "received" English. So what English is a complictaed language with many dialects and fifferent ways of pronunciation.



Until the 18th Century the notion that anyone should spell or speak this way or that was regarded as irrelevent. DutchCrusader's pedantry exposes his true level of ignorance about the Engish and their language/s.



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 21:03

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Here is a small example for the Dutchess to ponder on.



To ask a question or to aks a question.



Which is correct?



DutchCrusader



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RE msg 15, The-Wicks : (...) I think DC's command of the English language is excellent. Bear in mind that it is his second language and his English is a lot better than my Dutch! His English is also a lot better that some for whom English is their first language. (...)



===> Blush! But the English language is not my second language. My French and German is far better than my English. But I admit that my English is slightly better than four other languages I speak.



PS. I still support message # 1.



Tootie


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03/02/2009 21:04

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I was taught proper england when i was a children!



The-Wicks


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03/02/2009 21:06

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Message 17 - sorry; just making a personal observation.



P.S. Can't stop - we're off to our Turkish classes!



J



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 21:08

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Here is the answer or at least one answer.



http://www.linguistlist.org/issues/7/7-1048.html



So, can the pedants stop banging on about this poor English or that poor English or this spelling or that spelling. You know what people mean. Just let them get on with it and stop being bores.



And, lay off the typos. It's just too tedious.



rowlo



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03/02/2009 21:09

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wers shee gne



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 21:11

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................ from Christ's sermon on the Mount in Miles Coverdale's Bible, 1535



"Axe and it shal be giuen you."



DutchCrusader



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03/02/2009 21:13

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RE msg 22, Harlequin : (...) So, can the pedants stop banging on about this poor English or that poor English or this spelling or that spelling. You know what people mean. (...)



===> The usual defence mechanism of illiterate people.



Harlequin


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03/02/2009 21:18

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DutchCrusader



Your ignorance is breathtaking as is your arrogance.



The International Dialects of English Archive



http://web.ku.edu/idea/



hattikins


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03/02/2009 21:22

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Are you insinuating that I should tolerate such diabolical insolence from one whose mental capacity is less than that of a fool.



Just a little of the English language I was taught at school Dutch, strange what sticks in your mind isn't it.



DutchCrusader



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03/02/2009 21:23

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RE msg 26, Harlequin: Thank you for the URL provided. Very interesting site! (No need to say that I mean it).



rowlo



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03/02/2009 21:24

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sounds double dutch to me?



Lemtich



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03/02/2009 21:36

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On the internet there is "research" claiming that as long as you get the first and last letters of a word right, it doesn't much matter what happens in the middle. [N.B. It needs the right letters, but not the right letter order within the first and last letters.]



The Hrad Sllep comttiton, you see, may be a tfirric cotsnet but the fcat is taht the brian smoohew ebanles msot peepol to dephicer wirtng even wehn its slepped as blady as tihs.



Lem



Harlequin


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Here's another small example which helps to put English in perspective and which the Dutchess may relate to: (perhaps there is some resonance in Dutch.)



In Norfolk when people gossip or talk too much the locals complain that they are "runnin' on" which educated people laugh at.



In Old English:



rúnian [] wv/t2 to whisper, murmur, talk low, talk secrets, conspire, to talk secretly against a person;



You see: Engish is very complex and not always what it seems to the modern ear.



rowlo



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03/02/2009 21:44

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i think shes just having a dig at lem , hope ive spelt his name rigt?



Macha


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fcuk tihs rof a luahg...



Ballyboffin


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D.C.



Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui.



Caveat venitor.



(Especially when selling maps at markets)



lovinit


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04/02/2009 04:58

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you sad lot,



What boring lives you lead!



all you do is have a go at each other!



Play ground springs to mind!!!!!!!!!!!



maybemike


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04/02/2009 07:29

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ha ha ha too much fun so early in the morning..



SheilaBee


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04/02/2009 11:59

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I have read this thread in amazement. What does spelling have to do with matters in Northern Cyprus and does it really matter if people cannot spell.



sienna


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04/02/2009 12:18

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ditto SheilaBee - it's like being back at school



Regards or graders if it was an angram



wot a lod of rubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbish



jock1



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04/02/2009 12:24

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It just gets worse'r utter bollocks.......



britvic



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04/02/2009 12:41

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Another antagonistic thread, it's amazing how people start these threads then stand back and watch the fall out!



Who cares if people can't spell, as long as you understand what is being said? These type of threads just make people scared to post!



Cabbie


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04/02/2009 12:47

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should this thread be closed as it serves no purpose ?



jock1



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04/02/2009 12:52

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Nah, lets all argue among each other............



hattikins


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It wasn't a complete waste of time though, Val and Dutch got a little bit of pleasure out of stirring things up ------- again.



Harold2555



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This thread is now closed.



Mischief done.



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