Foreign Affairs Committee

The-Wicks


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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 18:49

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmfaff/196/19602.htm



I have just hijacked this from Gary Weston's site it does make interesting reading but draws no conclusions.

P

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 19:40

msg 1

Thank you for this very informative link which I have just read.



My own conclusion is as i expected.

The Political road to settlement is clear. The opportunity is right here right now.

Failure this time could result in a long unfruitful period of stale mate.



The EU and the UK need to join with the UN and drive the talks forward with more financial incentives.



Thankfully no frustrating pedantics about civil litigation and non recognition of TRNC.



Lets all get on the same rope and pull for peace and settlement.

cooper


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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 20:43

Very interesting read, cheers P&J.



Cooper

Linus


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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:06

WAZ -24-7



I totally agree having read the document. The atmosphere and climate is different this time round. The prize is to great for failure and has the document states Christofias has the full support of the oppostion Greek party. Both men will go down in history. I hope and believe it will happen before NC elections



Linus

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:25

Wicksy,

excellent post,and a very interesting read.Looks like its shit or bust this time.Fingers crossed,

Paul.

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 21:40

Izzet,

Would it be possible to turn this post into a sticky so that it could be used as a reference point for future posts,

Regards,

Paul.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 23:22

Dear Newlad re msg 6



Re the "sticky"



But spare Linus' embarrassment by the insertion of CYPRIOT ( as in Greek Cypriot) when referring to the DISY opposition party...



Referring to GREEKS in the context of Cyprus means real GREEKS from Greece..

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 23:46

Msg 6

Paul,

I for one fully support your request.

newlad



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Message Posted:
08/02/2009 23:50

mm,

Fair point mess 7 still think it should be placed at the top though,

Paul.

Linus


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 01:01

Mmmmmmm



Well spotted. Off course greek Cypriot opposition partty





Linus

kenny b


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 02:03

Newlad/Waz

Im with you on this one excellent reference point.

And should be kept at the top of the page for all 44 members to read and refer to over the coming months.

Kenny b

jardap


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:04

This is the first post i have read for a long time that makes sense of it all

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:20

I put this up yesterday for mmmmmmm to read under the UN thread and as usual he tried to rubbish it lol..sad man

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 09:52

Dear Dee re msg 13



What I said was that the report sat on the fence, didn't mention the Court cases re property - Orams - and the POTENTIAL| consequences for EU citizens buying in "TRNC" ( which seems strange) and understated the level of GC National Guard and to a lessor extent TR troops..



Yep, I guess you would categorise that as "rubbishing" ;)

The-Wicks


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 10:21

Dee

Sorry for repeating what you had already done. I had read the thread in question before you had posted & had not been back to it.

Paul

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 17:46

Paul absolutely no need for an apology, however mmmmm will be eating humble pie, a very large dose smothered with smarmy sickly custard quite soon

newlad



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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 20:32

Izzet,

Any chance that this could remain at the top,

Paul.

ronaldo


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Message Posted:
09/02/2009 20:52

The Wicks Good posting . Thanks for that very informative link. Explains a lot of positive things that should be in negotiation. Instead of all the claptrap you sometimes read on hear.

McSteviet



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 00:19

Top please, so we don't lose this.



Mc

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 00:26

Yep back to the top.

newlad



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 01:13

Bump it to the top please.

andre 514


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 01:26

the report should definitely be read

and it is pretty even-handed but there are just one or two

very SMALL things I'm not sure about



the report says any future invasion of the north by the south

is more of a psychological factor than any realistic possiblilty:

with the very greatest of respect, local history teaches us unerringly

but for one well-known factor they'd come and see our friends in the north,

like the proverbial rat up a drainpipe



the report talks glowingly about the hundreds of millions of euros pumped in

but I thought this was currently all blocked though I cannot recall by whom

the report does not fully address the issue of the direct trade regulation passed in 2004 but thwarted by devious means



this well-intentioned consultation is good at describing what should-be

but is candid enough to examine faithfully the complexities and disagreements

of the current situation without actually predicting the inevitable impasse



andre

batterboy58



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 10:47

Bump to the top

McSteviet



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 14:36

Back to the top if we are not getting a Sticky

andre 514


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 15:23

and to the top again please



aythankyou

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 15:27

If you want a sticky, you need to email Izzet - he doesn't read every post!

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 19:04

Back to the top if we are not getting a Sticky

ronaldo


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 19:42

On top of the world Mama

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
10/02/2009 19:46

And again...

The-Wicks


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 08:52

I have bumped it up because it is worth a read.

P

McSteviet



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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 14:40

back to the top



Mc

mia100max


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 21:51

Very interesting

When it says the Turkish cypriots have full EU rights, would that also include us ex pats living here. Interesting!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
11/02/2009 21:52

Good point Mia

cooper


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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:01

Back to the top.

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:26

The only way is up

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:34

Top please Izzet,

Paul.

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:42

I have mailed Izzet to ask him to make this sticky,

Paul.

cooper


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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:44

Well done Paul, the only way is up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwScSiDYtJE&feature=related



Cooper

ronaldo


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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 20:59

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmfaff/196/19602.htm

Keep It at the top

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
12/02/2009 21:12

Up up and awayyyyyyy.....

kenny b


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 02:19

Top please Izzet