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juliet


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www.famagusta-gazette.com



why have these not been looked after in the last 34 years!?



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It looked ok the other day , well better than the cematery on the way to paphos airport................



http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigeandpat/405834303/sizes/l/



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More GC propaganda, to try to excuse themselves for all the TC monuments they have destroyed or neglected.

Go and see Kyrenia Castle for yourself to see the truth.



juliet


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hi nige,



the cemetary was a one off done by thugs, goes on all the time in the uk! but kyrenia castle & the famagusta walls are apart of cyprus history & have been left to rot! don`t think you can see the problems of the castle from the quey side!



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No it was not this took place years ago I have photos of loads of desecrations that have taken place on BOTH SIDES .



They are as bad as each other .



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Only need to look at the cemetery opposite Pia Bella Hotel, its a shame the look like Greek graves.



juliet


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please put them on your forum & then we can swap.



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I believe the GC's have received lots of funding to repair and replace whereas due to political embargoes etc we get very little. Perhaps Juliet you can protest to the RoC to allow more money to flow in for these needed projects?



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juliet

'the cemetary was a one off done by thugs, goes on all the time in the uk!'

What goes on all the time in the UK? GC thugs wrecking TC cemeteries?

I really think you have lost the plot. And if you had any in the first then your credibility has reached -50 on the 'sensibility of postings' scale.

AJ



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AJ



You obviously don`t read the news! the muslim cemetary was in use for all muslims not just tcs from 34yrs ago! yes thugs not yet been caught so how can you say they are gcs! cyprus is a very multicultural country now!



did you manage to read the article in the famagusta gazette about the topic at the top?



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Dear AJ re msg 9



Dave



Limas(s)ol has PLENTY of Syrian, Iraqi, Saudi and Lebanese folk who either live or have property. They attend Mosques - if that is their religion, and they get buried in the cemeteries.



Cyprus enjoys very good relations with Arabic countries.



Not for the first time, recently, you have got it "wrong" re the attitude of Cypriots - esp in Limas(s)ol - who are amongst the most multi- culturally experienced..



I'd say they are far more tolerant than most nationalities who have such high numbers of foreigners.



Unfortunately every "village" has it's idiots.. but don't try and make capital or label the majority as thugs..



The "rump" RoC takes a VERY hard line with any GC who is found abusing a TC.. they can't afford the bad publicity, and the press is open enough that the incidents get reported..



That's why we are discussing it.



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When on the webside http://www.famagusta-gazette.com look at the letters on the right hand side and read The British & Cyprus.



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visited othello tower (famagusta walls) liked it as it not commercialized , able to wander and enjoy without restrictions normal in UK



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juliet ???



please put them on your forum & then we can swap. ?



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RE msg 1, juliet : (...) why have these not been looked after in the last 34 years!? (...)



===> You talk malicious rubbish, Juliet. Spreading rumours like you do is more damaging to the TRNC and its monuments than the sea and the weather do to Kyrenia Castle. But hey, that's your main aim, isn't it? Why don't you take the time to have a look yourself; you don't need 34 years - 3,4 hours are enough. I happen to know a thing or two about the past and present of the monuments you mention and also about the international institutions working hard on the preservation. But I won't give *you* any details - your gossip might tricker the authorities in the South to ruin another well meant initiative in the North.



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Mark

Yep and why have they not caught them.



juliet


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DC



have you read the article? i only post what i read... no need to be so venomous!



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Juliet---You are really at the bottom of the barrel if this is the best you can come up with !



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Mark you need to have a chat with Juliet, he/she is really not doing the ROC any favours with her/his postings. You bring educated debate to this board but Juliet has become a laughing stock.

AJ



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why do people have to be rude when someone posts something they have read...



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Juliet People are so rude to you because we all know what your agenda is , and also who you were in a previous life .



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Juliet--- Valentines day is coming and i am sure once you have received all your cards and red roses you will be in a much more positive frame of mind.



Forget Turkish conspiracies for a day and let romance and love rule your heart



Yvonne



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Juliet and all,



A very good friend of mine used to be a Tour Guide at the Castle. I have spoken to him regarding this article, and he has said, unfortunately, it is right.



I live in Dublin (Ireland), so in all honesty, I don't know... But I trust the opinion of my friend who has a deep love for history and ancient buildings.



Perhaps a less passionate approach needs to be taken, and a more practical approach of conservation needs to be looked at.



Thanks,

Y



AlsancakJack



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juliet

'have you read the article? i only post what i read... no need to be so venomous!'



Do you believe what you read without making further investigations?

Juliet I have to say your postings have become the laughing stock of this board, you really do not do yourself any favours. If you want to present the GC point of view then take a leaf out of Marks book and do a bit of research first.

AJ



Yvonne



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AJ, as I said, I am living (and from) Dublin, so therefore (as I am not in NC), I am interested in your opinion on my friend's take on the article (see Message 23).

I honestly don't know the state of the Castle, but as in my previous message, I trust my friend's opinion (the former Castle Guide).

Have you been to the Castle lately? I'm not being confrontational at all, but with all due respect, as in most of the world, Heritage sites are often last thought of for funding and protection...

Kyrenia Castle is beautiful and is part of the landscape of NC. It needs to be protected and proactively conserved.

I've asked my friend to take a look at it in the next few weeks, so then, I will have a more informative opinion.

Thanks, Y



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Preservation of Cyprus historical building a such as Kyrenia Castle is vitally important and unfortunately underfunded at present.



Perhaps in the spirit of cooperation more EU and even ROC funding could be contributed and expertise provided to help do so.



Aussie



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Juliet



why not post the other news on that site like...



roc police officer suspended after child porn discovery



or



roc criminal investigaters grill former justice minister



i know where i would rather be



why not join a south forum and leave us alone, you and your dark side crew



mark



Macha


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Msg 27,



Shall we give you a shake when you want to get on topic?



Yvonne



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I've got a suggestion/an idea: everyone who lives out in NC, why not go visit the Castle and see how it looks and investigate the associations made in the article listed by Juliet. That seems to me the most logical and practical path to take?

Y



AlsancakJack



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Yvonne

Yep I am a regular visitor to Girne castle if only to show visitors and family the wonderful heritage of Cyprus. If you are not aware of the collaboration between GC's and TC's with respect to the worlds oldest shipwreck that is housed in the castle and the EU funding that has been given for the upkeep of the castle then you need to re-aquaint yourself with what is going on in the TRNC.

AJ



Yvonne



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Hi AJ, yes, I remember the tour of the oldest shipwreck in the world. Or that is what I was told.

I honestly don't need to 're-acquaint myself' with what is going on there. I live here, so I don't pretend to know more than I do. But when a friend of mine, who, I repeat, was a Tour Guide at the Castle (the subject of this conversation, I trust?) ie The Castle?), tells me they are concerned about the Castle, I listen to them.

I will re-acquaint myself with TRNC when I am in a fortunate position to do so. In the meantime, reality for me.

Y



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recipe for juliet:



how to restore and preserve monuments and churches in north cyprus





end the spiteful blockade so as to show true sincerity in the current talks



make some compromises so that an agreement is possible



accept the guarantor stays to protect the people because you lot scare them



accept the idea of compensation for ALL cypriots who fled their homes



respect your co-islanders and show understanding not confrontation



after a certain period of simmering embrace the new bizonal state:



monuments now being restored as if by magic, any vandals arrested



easy?



andre



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Why have you all got your knickers in a twist over the Juliet's posting the member legitimatley drew attention to the need for increased funding for preservation works to ancient monuments.

The TRNC is trying to do that within the limited budget they have available thats ok nothing wrong.

Nige it was that drew attention to the desecration of cemetry and it was explained that it was a one off by thugs very sad but probablly true.

Also true that some GC cemetrys here have been desecrated.

So whats the problem?

Do you really think either the TRNC government or the ROC government employes people to post on boards either side of the cease fire line.

its was not long ago that poor old marky marky was accused of being an agent provocoteur with a name like Demetrious.

I am sorry ut if a post dosent fit withing your parameters either ignore it or argue constructivley without resorting to insults.

Having said that i still think my good adversery the Sad Crusader smells of cheese.



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mmmmmmm and Juliet, the GC's are most certainly not tolerant of other races, I know I lived there and witnessed quite a few nasty goings on regarding what the GC's class as slaves...mainly the asian workers who they treat appallingly badly and paid peanuts for a hard days work, and mmmmmmmmmmm, dont even attempt to tell me I am wrong!



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TC's,Brits........who else dont you like! Bit of a xenophobe on the quiet are we Juliet?



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Andre message 32.Can we second you into the current talks between the two leaders?There is much merit in what you say,though I suspect it is a tad tongue in cheek.I would doubt at Juliet would get anywhere near the front door of the diplomacy dept.



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Good Morning all





VERY interesting posts and valid posts from Hippo and Yvonne, but what is the new game ?



Shoot the messenger .... some folk on here need to take your blinkers off.. !!



Andre: What "spiteful blockade" .. do you mean the UN Security Council Resolution?



Did you know the EU spends MORE money per capita in "north" Cyprus than in the "rump" RoC?



Clarets: How do you draw "xenophobic" tendencies from Juliets posts ?



It would appear Juliet is correct, but what to do? It is pointless us behaving like badly behaved playground kids..



Juliet, I expect if this part of CY got more tourists they'd have more money to re-invest.



Hopefully the end to all this "nonsense" is at hand..



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mmmmm...msg 37,if you cant see that Juliet has fairly obvious tendencies in favour of one race,and not in favour of others,then I can recommend a good laser eye clinic for your obvious severe myopia!



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clarets



Another one that dosnt read my post` s properly, i have always stated that this island belongs to ALL Cypriots! i live with cypriots & do voluntary work with tcs, gcs, armeniem etc, it`s some of the expats that don`t want whats fair for the the tcs for your own agendas.....



I know the EU send alot of money to help renovate the monuments etc in the north, but the castle & walls seem to be getting missed out for some strange reason......!!!



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Dear Clarets



I know you are a wise man.. so PLEASE try and see beyond the "race" thing.. "Juliet" is a Cypriot and her family has property in the north.



If you ask most GCs the std answer you'll get it is "we don't have a problem with Turkish Cypriots - we want the TR army to go home"..



I know she is in the minority here, but as far as most of the world is concerned she is highlighting the plight of an important Cypriot heritage site.. I don't think she prophesies"diplomatic skills" .. nor did I think it was a pre-requistive for membership ;)



clarets



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Juliet,I can see and I can read! I also understand the luddite stance you take when your GC political dictats are put on this forum.Please do not mistake me for a person of lesser intellect.Never underestimate your opponent,only a fool would make such a mistake.



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clarets



Watch it mate the next thing some bright spark will want to return Barnoldswick to yourkshire AGAIN



What a hornets nest that stirred up the last time it was raised.



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mmmmm,I do try to look beyond the obvious message that Juliet infers,but somehow,the message from between he text,always comes through...xenophobia!I assume that you are acquainted with the writings of Harry Scott Gibbons.It is a more balanced view than the one espoused by Trevor McDonald,whose cyclopic view of the TRNC/Cyprus/RoC is legendary



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Littlenige,there are still those with phallic headed dispositions from the "dark-side"of the boundaries(pre '74....UK.....Not Cyprus...just before anyone jumps on my case!)who put strange signs on their turf,with white roses defacing them!



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LOL yes I seem to remember them and What about that chippie at suff insisted they were in Yorkshire so could open on a Sunday !!



When land is won in a war or battle it is very rarely if ever given back..........



If land won in the war of the roses 1455 - 1485 aint been returned what chance is there for land to be returned from 1974 ?



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My sentiments entirely littenige! For.....history is the preserve of the victors.Might is right and right is might!



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thanks clarets, you found out my secret!!!



everything I say is tongue in cheek, including these remarks



andre



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Dear Clarets, re msg 43



we just discussed the "genocide files" on another thread and it died when I posted some article from a TC newspaper about the atrocities carried out against GCs.. as witnessed by a TC.



If you think HSG is "balanced", I AM wasting my time and I was wrong about you being "wise" .. :(



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Juliet

Ref message 4

FOREIGN MINISTER AVCI: ‘WE CONDEMN THE RACIST ATTACKS EVEN TO THE GRAVE OF A 3 YEARS OLD BABY’

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Turgay Avci, stated that the attacks to the Turkish Cypriot religious and cultural heritage in the Greek Side have been observed to increase. Avci especially condemned the attacks even to the grave of a 3 years old Turkish Cypriot baby in Asagibinatli village.

Avci underlined that the racist attacks were increasing in the Greek side to Turkish Cypriot religious and cultural heritage in current days and added that in the attacks to Asagibinatli Turkish Cypriot graveyard and gravestones were ruined.

Avci pointed out that the Greek Orthodox Church is poisoning the Greek Cypriot Youngsters with the ideology of racism and this is promoting the lack of confidence between the two peoples in the island and added that rather than teaching young Greek Cypriots peace and sharing, (continued in next posting)



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Continued:



the education system is teaching them to deny the existence of Turkish Cypriot and Islamic culture in the Island.



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Aj I am suprised at you an educated pearson posting such a raceily loaded post.



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Hi, I think everyone has had their say, and with all due respect to the Castle, I really don't like the title of this post, especially the 'falling down' bit!

It's not falling down, but could do with some TLC, so please can someone end this thread as, in my humble opinion, I think the title screams 'propaganda'.

There's no need for it to go on, and on, and on, and on....

The Castle, please God, will be fine, if taken care of my the Heritage Societies out there. No need to continue to talk about it, more like time for action.

Just let's put it to rest.

Thanks, and no offence meant to anyone,

Y



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msg 51 its not racialy loaded its the truth ??



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AJ:



''If you are not aware of the collaboration between GC's and TC's with respect to the worlds oldest shipwreck that is housed in the castle and the EU funding that has been given for the upkeep of the castle then you need to re-aquaint yourself with what is going on in the TRNC.''



What a shame that thıs does not ınclude commemoratıng the person who actually dıscovered thıs amazıng sunken vessel. Is the fact that the dıver concerned was a GC too much for the Turkısh army to admıt? Shameful...



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clarets:



''Please do not mistake me for a person of lesser intellect.Never underestimate your opponent,only a fool would make such a mistake.''



Hmmm.



Then agaın...



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msg 54 how do you know he was a greek cypriot



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rowlo,



Because I've done my homework on Cyprus long ago.



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msg 57 so how come pre 74 , everyone was a cypriot ? how come now theres land ,money to be had but only if youre a gc ?? you must remember greeks started this ? but when turkey intervened to protect its people/theyve suffered ever since long live the trnc



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msg 58



I heard he is a british citizen of armenian descent



andre



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Dear mmmmm,you've really got to think beyond your little box! Sir Trev is really a biggoted little black man,who thinks that HSG is not a true reflection of what happened to TC,s during the 60's.I cant speak for you but I myself remember some of what the despot Macarios said and his evil mafiosa right hand man.My memories of such do not make me unwise,they just mean I have a good memory.You possibly have a more biased,selective one!



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Macha......you do yourself a great dis-service!



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Msg 2 . the picture looks like the average TRNC build quality. What's the problem?



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Dear Clarets, re msg 60



what was that you said to someone about them doing themselves a disservice?!



Suggest you do a little more research before reaching for the "bias" label..



This poster is WELL aware of atrocities committed by both sides...and has visited many of the places north and south..



IF you took the time to do a little research, you might even have realised that this poster had spent not a little time with inter communal groups who dealt with reconciliation initiatives.



If you want to continue "quote" one sided publications and use it as an example of why TCs and GCs can never live together - carry on - One day I hope you will come to realise that isn't "helping" NOW.



Folks that really DO think out of the box aren't living in the horrors and mistakes of the past.. !



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Dear mmmmm,I can add arrogance to your list of personality traits.You are far from the only person to have looked at this from both sides of the coin!

If you care to look at my vocation,you would no doubt realise that I deal with the results of atrocities when they occur,along with those of my profession.I have seen and dealt with more "atrocities" than you have had "hot dinners".

I am as keen on initiatives to build a lasting peace on this island as you claim to be.You really must do YOUR homework,before you assume that I have some vested interest in ignoring the horrors of the past....they should not be ignored,nor forgotten.Not to learn from history.....is folly indeed!



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Dear Clarets,



re msg 64



As a man of your vocation - it is interesting how you spend time highlighting a book that is eloquently described elsewhere on this board as aimed at "Daily Mail" readers..



If you are SERIOUSLY able to have looked at the CY Q from both sides of the coin, you would NOT be harping on about this divisive and BLATENTLY one-sided book.



It is especially surprising considering your vocation, that you would "accuse" folk of "not thinking out of the box" or be darn right rude to Juliet.



I even doubt you know what I have seen experienced re physical actions of violence in some sort of "cause" - be it in N.Ireland , Middle East, Ukraine, Russia..



The moment one person commits an act in the name of their cause, they normally create the need for revenge.



Exceptional people.. and I don't count myself as one - but I've met 'em - don't need to bring up the horrors of the past . Especially, if you remember, this is about Kyrenia Castle's state of dis-repair



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Hipps.

'Aj I am suprised at you an educated pearson posting such a raceily loaded post.'

Not my words Hipps and the article is freely available in the press. Just using it to make a point.

AJ



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Back to the topic,



I was at the castle this morning and it was not falling down looked pretty good to me.



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andre:



''I heard he is a british citizen of armenian descent''



It's a nose thıng ısn't ıt?



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Dear mmmmm,you exhibit your arrogance in a way I find quite perplexing.You obviously do not understand the concept of binocular vision,and view things with a curiously neuropaenic,glaucomatous view(I make no apologies for the medical terminology...you will just have to look the meaning of the words up!)Both sides of the coin ,I do see,which cannot obviously be applied to you."Exceptional people,dont need to bring up the horrors of the past",is laughable,but for its unfortunate sadness.Exceptional people are ALWAYS the ones who learn from the past,and I guess you wouldnt know one if you were sat drinking his wine or eating his food.It would appear that you emanate from an undereducated part of the world,where nobody recognises their own shortcomings!



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msg 69 way to go Doc...take a well deserved bow



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msg 69 brilliant reply



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Littlenige....msg 67.So is the one at Skipton........but,hey.........its in Yaaaarksher!



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msg

fancy wording, but as i see it you just called mmmmm

arrogant. then you went on to call him undereducated.



have board rules not brocken ?



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msg73 he never said he was undereducated? read the post/



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oh right, just the part of the world he comes from !



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Got to be a little more careful about what you acuse people of...........Big Brother watching me ?



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Dear Clarets



Luckily this "dimwit" took Latin "O" level ( at 14 ) along with R.E at the "skool for bakword and diffilkult wee gits"..so no need to look it up.. My Brain and eyesight are just fine, thanks.



I note, again ,that you are incapable of focusing your intellect on the matter in hand - Kyrenia Castle.



So you'll be aware of the pseudo latin phrase.. " noli illegitimi carborundum " ..



Your posts suggest there may well be a negative correlation between common sense and intelligence..



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Kenny

'have board rules not brocken ?'

You tell me, I regard this as intelligent debate (maybe pushing it a bit) but if any of the participating respondents complain then I guess we will have to re-assess the situation.

AJ



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Dear AJ re msg 78



No complaints here... and I'd even promise not to make Clarets wear a beer I'd buy him.. ;)



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is it brocken or broken



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mmmmmm has taken all night to come back with that reposte! You must be proud of yourself......stringing 3 latin words together! Be careful with that beer though.......you'd need long arms to tip it over this large lad !Veni,vidi,vici....'nuf said!



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clarets



is that a greek orthodox church behind you in your profile pic?



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Juliet

If it is don't you think it is well looked after?

AJ



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hi juliet i thought you and all were cypriot or is it only GREEK CYPRIOT in your rose tinted glasses ?



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Just a break from the punch up, my brother works in the "Historic Property" business and lends some of his time as a consultant to English Heritage and he constantly tells me that very little govenment money comes in to renovate castles like Cardiff, kenilworth or Bolsover and if it wasn't for the lottery most of our historic treasures would be like nige's picture...............a pile of rubble.



If we can't look after our own what chance Cyprus.



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No Juliet,its a GC missile silo!



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tushay turtle.



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msg 1 yeah and its all your fault ?"



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Dear Clarets



re msg 81



"mmmmmm has taken all night to come back with that reposte! You must be proud of yourself......stringing 3 latin words together! Be careful with that beer though.......you'd need long arms to tip it over this large lad !Veni,vidi,vici....'nuf said!"



)))



Clarets, my reply to you hardly exercised any "grey matter" and was speedily responded to ..saw it when I came back from a wonderful romantic evening ..



You and Dee seem to think I must respond to your posts - as if they carry some special importance..



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