get rid of that traitor

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 15:59

The government was left red-faced yesterday when it transpired that a member of the Property Working Group, set up to prepare the ground for direct talks, had applied for and won compensation from the controversial “property commission” in the north.



President Demetris Christofias fired the official immediately after discovering that the working group member had appealed to the self-styled property commission for a remedy against his occupied land.



According to sources cited by CyBC last night, the official had sought $800,000 compensation from the commission for land in a village in the Kyrenia District. The applicant eventually received $250,000 for the land in December 2007, said the CyBC.



The last thing the government would want is to give the body legitimacy as a viable domestic remedy as it would force all Greek Cypriot refugees to seek remedies there first before their recourse to the Strasbourg court.



full details on cyprus mail internet site

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:01

Yeah, heard thıs one today on BFBS. Hılarıous. Wısh I'd been the hack who broke that tale.

cronos


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:06

Macha....does that mean you believe it or not?

Sarcasm on a forum can be confusing.

Macha


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:21

cronos,



Yes I belıeve ıt as BFBS have professıonal journalısts workıng for them.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:35

HOPEFULLY, this will surface on the CY Mail.



Macha, do you think that the RoC are making a rod for their own backs re their attitude to Turkey's local remedy..?



After all if the ECHR make a ruling - they can't pick and choose 'em





I'm sure if the GCs piled in we would see how genuine the commission is and if not then the ECHR would make the rulings..

cronos


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:40

I'm sure if the floodgates opened and more GC's had the bottle to seek compensation from the Property Commission,without being branded as traitors,we would see just how much principle and sentimental attachment to the lost lemon grove/scrubland/pasture there really was !

I'm only talking here about lost land....obviously there would be a much greater pull to actually return to and reclaim a family home.

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:55

mmmmmm



yes it`s in the cyprus mail today, the guy came out with quite a good settlement, thats him & his family set up for the future!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:52

Hi "Juliet" re msg 7



Thanks for the "heads up".



Here's the link:



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/



He asked for $800K and only got $250...



What *I* want to know is.. WHY did TR quietly settle claims from UK folk who "lost" their properties ( "military area" ) at WAY above full market value.. yet wouldn't pay out to GCs..?



I reckon the sacked official's expertise on the IPC might have been useful..



STILL think the RoC govt shouldn't pick and choose which ECHR rulings they "approve" of.



The GCs SHOULD test this IPC and then the ECHR can rule if it is being "fair"..

rowlo



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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:00

msg 6 do you think that would apply on both sides ??

rowlo



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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:09

msg 7 hi juliet thats him and his family set up for the future , i thought i heard you say theyre all cypriots ? or is it only greek cypriots you talk about?

cronos


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Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:18

Rowlo...msg 9....I don't see why not....it's human nature...but the thread was about a GC so that's why I reflected on my idea of the GC perspective in this matter.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:22

fair enough cronos//

Macha


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 00:14

MM:



''Macha, do you think that the RoC are making a rod for their own backs re their attitude to Turkey's local remedy..? After all if the ECHR make a ruling - they can't pick and choose 'em''



Absolutely rıght, Mark. Thıs demonstrates that each sıde ıs equally capable of wooly thınkıng and, come the ECHR decısıon over whether or not the local remedy ıs acceptable or not, even more fun and games...

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 00:39

It is certainly an interesting development that an ROC government Officer has taken his case to the Property Comission....and achieved settlement.

Many will be somewhat suprised and some will use this case to highlight the fact that the Commission can indeed be used to achieve settlement...Even for the big boys in government.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 01:19

Dear Waz, re msg 14



Warren, what is your source that the ex-member of the committee was a "RoC govt officer" ?



Did I miss something?



Quote CY Mail : "the offending member was not a political figure"..



If you know, "spill the beans" ..

rowlo



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 03:07

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm didnt you read msg 1 ? or did you still have youre blinkers on

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 10:00

Dear Rowlo re msg 16



YES, I read msg one and I posted the article.. having read that, too.. The question is did *you*...?

tanker


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 12:57

MMMMMM DO YOU EVER GO OUT OR ARE YOU JUST A SAD GIT

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:59

mmmmmm msg 18



I have not had the privilage to have read the article. My basis for the said government employee being a government officer is based upon previous postings. He was a member of the Government Property Working Group and was fired by the head of Government.

I passed no comment upon his political position, though one would assume he is a government supporter.



The embarresment to ROC is clear. I am afraid that I fail to see the implication of your post.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 17:15

re msg 18, Tanker



I'm having a great day, thanks, up with the lark, been shopping, the Missus is happy, as I took her to the car auctions, and found a great car and a great price HECK, I even made your day ;)



Thanks for asking .. must go .. lot's to do ..



re Warren ( msg 18 ) - I posted the link in msg 8 , so now you'll know he is NOT a member of the Govt. The implication is that you were too quick to comment on something you clearly hadn't "researched".



No doubting the embarrassment, though - STILL don't understand with the "rump" RoC thinks it can pick and choose ECHR rulings to "support".

w26kay



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Posts: 479

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 02:03

Mark said...."I'm sure if the GCs piled in we would see how genuine the commission is and if not then the ECHR would make the rulings.."



There is nothing to stop them, as this successful case clearly shows, (much to the embarrassment of the Roc Government). The "Commission" has always been open to everyone. It's a pity it is a "so little used" mechanism. One has to wonder why?" But there again, reading the article, perhaps not?



It is a little presumptious to question the genuinity when the mechanism has not really been tested OMHO.



The ECHR are already clogged up with far more important matters.



If there is an alternative remedy (as there clearly is in NC), potential claimants should be so directed, and seek their "redress" within the framework that has been designated for this sole purpose.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/02/2009 09:13

Dear Kay re 21



HI !! and Welcome back..



*I* think GCS should be using the IPC.. the ECHR has ruled that local remedies should be exhausted and TURKEY ( if you say NC or "TRNC" - it shows why GCs will stay away ) has been asked to provide same..







The RoC is very foolish to ignore an ECHR ruling - it cannot pick and choose the on's it "likes"..



Kay, in every case pre the IPC, Turkey has not come near the ECHR figures.

ROBIN HOOD


Joined: 26/05/2008
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Message Posted:
17/02/2009 21:04

Just opened the Link. Is it a joke?



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