The 13 Year Old Dad

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:35

A schoolboy who has become a dad at the age of 13 has insisted he will be a good parent.

Alfie Patten's girlfriend Chantelle Steadman, 15, gave birth to Maisie Roxanne in Eastbourne Hospital, East Sussex, four days ago.

Police have said they are not looking at prosecuting anyone in the case of Alfie, who stands just 4ft tall and looks young for his age.

The teenager, who told The Sun "I thought it would be good to have a baby", admitted he did not think about how he would afford to raise his child, saying: "I don't really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10," he said..

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:40

a sad reflection of modern day society !

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:41

Throws arms up in despair...far too young..

guidosp1


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 341

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:42

unbeleivable playing at growing up. the poor baby i wonder what will become of the child

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:43

So how/who will raise/pay for Maisie Roxanne? Where are these children's patents? I see a Trisha show coming on..........

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 16:50

Parents, typo!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:19

That was funny Vicki. I had the image of a patent parent ))

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:37

msg 5 the good old ever reliable tax payer

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:39

What happened to children still playing with action men etc at 12/13 and where are the parents when these two children were sleeping together, and of course who will keep the baby, the State of course.

If it was the other way round and the boy was 15 and the girl 13 they would be prosecuting him for rape

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 17:48

Another benefit mouth to feed....

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 18:00

At some stage in the game they will also get accommodation provided so that the 'family unit' can remain intact. Laugh? I almost cried.

AJ

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 18:04

13 YEARS OLD ?



At that age all I knew about sex was the underwear section of Kays catalogue !

kenny



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Posts: 405

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 18:25

AH those were the days cronos !

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 18:45

Bless the pair of them. It's Valentines day tomorrow.



Look forward to my taxes paying for the up keep of the child and no doubt a house/flat thrown in when the mother is sixteen. She says she was on the pill and the day they had sex she forgot to take it! (no work for the rest of her life)



Doubt they will be together too long though , once Chantelle is after his £10 pocket money and puts the block on Alfie playing out with his mates after school !



Rumour has it that they are to appear on the "Jeremy Kyle" show as Alfie is not sure if he is the father.....and Chantelle alleges he has cheated on her 3 times in the last 2 years. Can't wait the lie detector results.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 18:48

How many condoms can you get for £10 ?



Could you not buy the morning after pill with £10 ?



Seems the schools education policy's are not all new labour make them out to be. what

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:06

Now Now .....Nige, it has also been reported the parents are members of the local conservative club......lets keep politics out of it.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:12

seem he wasnt conservative enough !

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:26

The boy said he wants his child to look up to him. Apparently he's only 4 feet tall, at least the kid won't strain it's neck looking up to him! )

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:31

When asked if he had realized what he had done, the boy replied "yes, we were playing Doctor's and Nurses!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:32

When asked if he would do it again the boy said "Yes, for a packet of Wine Gums"

puppylover



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Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 19:38

No1Doyen



I honestly think you should give up the day job and become a comedian.

I have spend most of my day with tears and mascara rolling down my cheeks...thank you!

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 20:40

When asked by the Sun reporter if he knew what his finacial responsibilities were he answered "What is a financial responsibility"? Probably get a good job in a bank.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:05

Tonight on the tv news 2 teenage mums interviewed, one who had her baby at 15yrs said "I thought it would be easy and I would get a house and all that but it's been hard work".

This government has encouraged these girls and others to become mums by giving them house, benefits. No need to work just meet up with mates around town clogging the shops up with buggies and prams and being able to afford anything they want. See them everytime I go to my local town.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:10

A parent at 13 i find it very hard to take in.I was 26 when we had our first girl and even then i wasnt really ready for the commitment.Having a child only 13 years younger then yourself isnt right,

Paul.

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:14

Just think, if his kid does the same as he did he can be a grandad at 26..or sooner.

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:14

Children having children what's gone wrong? Sex education in schools these days none in mine, girls did get pregnant but usually old enough to 'have to get married'.

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:16

he could be a grandad at 26 , what a thought eh ?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:17

Apparently the kid has demanded a 3 bedroom council house. When asked why he needed a 3 bedroom house he told councill officials that the third bedroom would be for his toys.

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:22

hope he sticks to his guns on cowboy suit no1

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 21:37

Your'e right rowlo )

eager


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Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:14

Oh dear, Oh dear, arn't we all so righteous. of course its not a great situation for anybody, and i dare say the state will pick up the bill along the way, but there's a lot worse going on in the world. Whats done is done, a new life has entered the world. Not condoning their behaviour but worst things have happened, nobody's died just wish that these kids had been taught to be more responsible.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:29

Here's a photo

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:34

13? My 8 year old grandson looks older than him!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:36

He can't be the father- someone's fitted him up.

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:36

says it all britvic eh

eager


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Message Posted:
13/02/2009 22:58

Britvic, You will have a very sore back in the morning.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:16

Littlenige msg 15,I could sort him a real cheap vasectomy......this sort of thing,just brings out the public spirit in me!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:18

A Vasectomy's no good. They're planning another one soon, when the school holiday's begin.

clarets



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Posts: 752

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:21

Turbo,msg 25,with a bit of luck and a considerable number of McDonald,s he will be impotent by then

clarets



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Posts: 752

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:22

I could probably get a frontal lobotomy passed by the ethics committee for the little darling!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:27

No need of a frontal lobotomy, that has been inherited.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:50

I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy!



Babies eh! You just can't stop them popping out all over the place.



Lem

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
13/02/2009 23:58

When asked if he could stand up and face his responsibilities, the kid replied " I can face my resonsibilities, I've been a Milk Monitor for the last three months"

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 00:01

yeah lem ,but to start popping out of babies ,, makes you wonder eh/

pilgrim



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Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 00:20

Would have liked to have sex at thirteen, but babysitter was n't interested.

clarets



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Posts: 752

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 01:55

Lemtich,mg 42.......actually,you can ! Its novel concept called contraception,but I dont suppose that would apply to a child of 13!

Hippo


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Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 05:30

Hippo blames the parents he does

keithr


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Posts: 720

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 07:52

At 13,I thought sex was what posh people had their coal delivered in !!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 08:51

Hippo so do I..



Keithr ..very witty and that is exactly how the posh say sacks..

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 09:20

Just seen the article god he looks young. Same paper a girl who became a mother at 5 is now expected triplets at 17. the father said I will stay on benefits as she wants him at home with her and the kids. Got a house now child alowence tax credits x 4 very nice. I think thats the maths they are taught in school now. get pregant get a house get benefits equals a lot of money. Gordon Brown get your education minister on a traing course . Teach these kids the real values in life.

sassycypgirl


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 99

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 10:12

In UK I was a lecturer and personal tutor in an FE college teaching

16+ Every year we had at least one femaile student who became

pregnant.



When asked what their plans were the answer was always the same.



I have been to the social. I am getting a flat/house and benefits.

I will carry on studying until the baby is due. Needless to say in

most cases they left the course.



These youngsters have never worked or paid into the system but

know how to bleed the system. This is a true reflection of todays

society.



If parents had to take responsability and pay for the upkeep of

both daughter and grandchild they may not have such a carefree

attitude towards their kids actions.



Whe are the government going to wake up and stop the benefit

culture.



Sassy

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 10:18

eager wrote; "Britvic, You will have a very sore back in the morning."



Errm, dare I ask why?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 12:35

Vicki.I think it's a reference to your comment on the Valentines thread about having an arm up your back.

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 12:36

Stooping so low !!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/02/2009 12:56

All joking aside, this us an appalling situation that highlights again the lack of morality in the UK. The 15 year old Mother who was on the pill said she forgot to take it when the baby was conceived. She will not be able to claim any benefits until she reached the age of 16. However her mother, who is unmarried and has 4 children, will be able to claim extra benefits to support the baby. The family can expect to receive £30,000 a year in benefits.



Coincidentally, it has also been reported today that another unmarried mother of 18, with a 3 year old son, is expecting triplets. More benefits to be played by the hardworking taxpayers.



A sad state of affairs.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 13:24

Huh? I hang my head in shame should I have said something immoral, I did think I was talking about Napoleon Bonaparte 1796, and after I have left a lovely message on their this morning too!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 13:26

Vicki. Don't hang your head in shame. You have nothing be ashamed of.

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:13

Neighbours are saying the father could be one of five boyfriends the girl has been allowed to sleep with her at her home. The pictures of the parents say it all!

horselover


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 16:27

you seem to forget that for 1000's of years young girls at 12 n 13 have had children via dirty old men, or what ever age. parents from The far east etc have forced their children to marry for years, for what they call 'traditon' religion, or the like. The poor children have to become wives n mothers when they should be out skipping, or playing kids chase. Its sad, but its nothing new.

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 20:17

I do not who to feel sorry for the most, an innocent baby or the children that produced it. What life are the 3 of them going to have? living within a dysfunctional family and growing up to be another statistic of the welfare state.



What parent in possession of an ounce of common sense would allow their children and newborn baby to be paraded before the media, will we be seeing them on these morning shout shows? I presume the money offered will more than make up for it.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 20:22

Presumeably the Sun stumped up a few grand for the photos and story.



Always a strong incentive to those in receipt of benefits.



Lem

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 20:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvnPkGl2sf4



Is it certain that the baby is his.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 20:50

He is a ringer for roy keane when he was a young un.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 21:01

Apparently the girl has had boys sleeping over for some time now. They are nor sure if the baby us in fact the boys! They want him to take a paternity test. He said he'll takes one when he's finished playing with his train set ))

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
14/02/2009 21:12

One of the pictures in the Sun shows 'the dad' holding the baby on his knee while playing games on the tv with his girlfriend.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 01:04

Msg 65,



That's called a staged picture for money to satısfy the kneejerk and reactıonary urges of downmarket, unthınkıng tabloıd readers.



We're all goıng to hell ın a handcart, BTW.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 01:54

I posted some photos of Mars recently and had a shed load of nasty crap about how irrelevant it was to the TRNC and as a total saddo I ought to be seeking another forum and go forth and multiply. In the end I shut it down.



Interesting that this old load of Daily Mail shock! horror! old rubbish of "what has the country come to?" "another teenage mum getting a home on benefits" "Britain's going down the drain etc etc" "Foreigners have taken over" is going down a storm, everybody has got a handle on it giving their disapproval, even me. They're not even sure he is the father.



Well I must be a saddo as well, because what the hell has this stupid story of teenage sex resulting in a baby got with the TRNC?



Well you've guessed it! Diddly squat!



So maybe next time I post some photos of Mars, I'll include some lurid old twaddle about a 12 year old Martian getting his girlfriend pregnant.



Crabs on Uranus, I don't think so. Explain all this, oh happy friends.



Lem

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 03:14

Chill out matey.This is a bigger story then your posting about mars i am sure no one meant any offence Lem.Sleep tight,Paul.

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 03:24

Cant be the bairns kid looks to me that he couldnt even raise an eyebrow.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 09:32

Hey Dude....send me some piccies of Mars.....that will really space me out.



Anorak.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 09:33

PS. Apologies for going of thread.

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 09:30

Sassy what FE college did you lecture at, I ask this because your spelling and grammar are appalling. No wonder British kids leave school knowing very little and end up with babies themselves.

maybemike


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 10:01

i happen to no sassy, and she has had some high profile jobs.













maybe

catalkoykid


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Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 10:03

This is very amusing I must say.

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 12:56

The latest is a 14yr has now come forward and said he is the father and wants a DNA test.

It would seem the £sd is flashing its head and everyone wants to get in on the act.



If it wasnt so sad it would be hilairious.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 13:22

So at 14 this child is putting herself about ..what control did the parents have over her...none it would seem.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 13:40

The parents don't care. They have no morals, how can they instill morals in their own children?

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 19:12

For the latest sensational news (but then again, from the News of the World you would expect nothing less) see:



http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/177665/Richard-Goodsell-Im-the-real-daddy-Alfie-and-I-want-a-DNA-test-to-prove-it.html

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 19:44

msg 67 im with you lem/ probably a martians the dad?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/02/2009 19:53

a lot of young studs around that area. All now on the media bandwagon. Wonder when they Jermy Kyle show is being shown and with all the excitement of the DNA results. It just all beggers belief that poor baby. I hope and I pray she will be looked after but not by the grandmother. Who knows what age she would be having boys around for that poor child.

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 00:06

They should show this pic to the girls in school, should put them off.(octuplets )



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/12/article-1142566-037E2712000005DC-944_468x646_popup.jpg



I dont know if that worked.





On the topic of babies, not necessarily anything to do with the TRNC,

A woman gave birth to 6 last month and has 8 at home already under 8 yrs old, unemployed and single living with at home with mom. All invitro, the doctor should be fired.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 00:15

hi turbo that woman is sick bringing babies into the world and denying caring folk the opportunity . who can we blame society the media or greed or the governments. The doctor should have known her history but still let her go through it. Did she have to pay for this treatment in the USA. Now I guess they will all be split up how the hell can you look after that many. I guess pampers baby milk etc will sponsor them for a while whilst the PR machine works. Although having said all that my late father was one of 17 in Ireland no welfare state then. A a great family they all turned out to be because they were scared of authority thier parents and of course the priest

JoAndWal


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 00:36

having read the papers today there are another 2 boys who could be the father - one being 16 and one being 14 - both say they were with the mother at the time of conception - who did (at age 15) - apparently get intimate with both around the time of the baby being conceived (in her bed at home). DNA tests will now be done for all. Who is wrong - child or parents? I know my 13 year old son would not be in his bedroom with his girlfriend (if he has one)/

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 08:45

What a damned disgrace this is turning out to be...what is this girl ..the local lay and at 15, I hope her parents are disgusted with her behaviour but probably not..this all stems from bad parental responsibilities and bad schooling..we have some dreadful role models out there and teachers etc today cannot spell themselves..the child should be placed in care, the mother sterilised and the parents prosecuted for wilful neglect.

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 09:10

Lilli, just because you asked:

She was hoping to get some sort of fame from this whole story, it back fired on her, after it was discovered that she already has a whole brood at home no one wants anything to do with her, she cant sell her story, she wont get any promotion from Pampers or any other company.

The doctor is being looked at in a negative light the he assisted, what was he thinking.

The government paid for her medical expenses and all her food stamps etc..

Sad that people like her are allowed to have so many kids and keep them when other folks are paying fortunes to get the Invitro or trying to adopt with out any luck.

Makes one take a step back and look at what is wrong with this world.

The story here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28939439/

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 09:12

What get's me is a Tenner...................

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 09:28

It appears that another boy could be the father. Although he said he's not sure as he was at the clinic at the time having his MMR jab.

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 10:19

or was it his "drop and cough"?

guidosp1


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Posts: 341

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 11:36

thank you turbo its all such a sad state of affairs. glad she has beeen seen through. The brits woud be well advised to ignore the story and let them all fend for themselves. speak soon lilli xx

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 11:46

The parents of each side of this 'story' should be hung out to dry..despicable types.

cyprusishome


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Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 13:28

Agree Dee, but the way society works now they will sell their stories to some sad tabloid and make a fortune.



And who is to blame for that, the people who buy those newspapers.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 15:22

£10, lucky sod.........................

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
16/02/2009 15:33

Apparently there are 7 other boys 'in the frame'.



An eye witness said it was a scene out of Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs! )

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 15:39

Snow White's favourite drink: 7 UP.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
16/02/2009 15:52

AN. That's funny - )))

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
16/02/2009 15:55

When asked if he had sex with the girl before he said "No, I did try but I couldn't get my Babygro off quick enough"

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 16:05

What are you boys like !!

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 16:08

With the big payment from the Sun he was seen out buying some new games for his playstation. Max Clifford has taken over the handling of the newspapers and said the boy will be having a DNA test to prove he is the father then he can tell all the other boys involved "to get lost" . He wants all the money for himself.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 17:40

When asked if he was going to move in with the girl and the baby he said

"Only if I can take my own cot round there"

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 17:47

Woodspeckie..msg 98



"Max Clifford has taken over the handling of the newspapers"



Say no more !



If you want money from misery...he's your man.

Doesn't do too badly out of it himself either!

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 18:03

Just heard, Alfie has joined the group 'Fathers for Justice', In an interveiw, the 13 yearold said '' It made sense as I already have a 'spiderman outfit' ''

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 18:10

Pilgrim....That's a cracker !!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 18:11

When asked if he would take a Paternity Test he said "I only took my eleven plus test a little while ago....."

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 18:14

The Boy's father has just made a statement saying that he is very dissapointed in his son, sh***ing a fat bird like that!!!

Steve1953



Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 298

Message Posted:
16/02/2009 19:09

It reminds me of the fishmongers daughter....



she lay on the slab and said fillet

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 01:01

tiggy:



''PS. Apologies for going of thread.''



Well heck, at least you're not pretending to be the Kapparıs Kid any more.



Talking about being off topic, back ın 1993 myself and two other RNR officers were called in and told the IRA had taken our names and details from the Navy List and we had to check under our cars etc for a few months. But ultimately they lost, eh? ;)

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 01:03

steve: ''It reminds me of the fishmongers daughter....

she lay on the slab and said fillet''



She was only the archıtect's daughter but she let the borough surveyor.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 09:20

She was only the carpet layer's daughter,

but she liked her underfelt.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 09:35

She was only the Colonel's daughter, but she knew what Reggie meant!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 09:36

And if I published the Admiral's daughter I would be thrown off the board!

Rupert


Joined: 29/01/2009
Posts: 21

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 12:37

Thirteen year old dad Alfie Patten has joined Fathers for Justice. He doesn't understand the politics but he already has a spider man costume.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 12:44

kaiserphil. Go to the rear of the class )

kaiserphil


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Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 13:24

No 1 - are you going to tell us what was the vice of the vice-admiral?

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 13:25

kaiserphil.......I'll leave it to you......go on tell 'em! )

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 13:58

as long as it wasn't a Rear-Admiral...

Which reminds me: -

She was only the Garage owner's daughter, but she loved the smell of BENZOLE

scotsguy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 249

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 14:43

If this story was not so tragic then it would be worth laughing about, seems now Alfie will have a DNA test to prove if he's the father (as now there's another 6 guys claiming to be, lets hope there not being paid by the newspapers for their stories) I really hope for their sakes, Alfie is, otherwise the conscenquencies will be shocking, the tabloid newspapers will have another field day, she will become the worlds youngest slapper, heaven help her after that, no doubt social services will step in, thousands having to be spent re-housing the family and new life to get away from the press, thousands on counselling, this will haunt her for the rest of her life, not saying she/they do not deserve some of it, but sadly a poor reflection of the current times back in the UK of parenting, education, social services, society, morals etc etc. You would think that social services would have tried to protect these kids away from the lime light and the seedy journalism from certain newspapers

scotsguy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 249

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 14:43

cont/



Until the full facts were known. As for Alfie, he will be free to sell his new story, as a victim this time and no doubt will try with someone else to father a kid. What ever happened to the millions spent on EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION, under Blairs regime (well he always talked, talked and talked about it) but did he ever do anything about it?

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 15:24

No 1 - mess 114. Simple, it was the rear of the ........... Oh, you know!

Steve1953



Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 298

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 16:30

Dear Scotsguy,

Re M116/117



Having worked in Social Services and CSA for too long,the present lack of morals in the UK- but more due to lack of common sense - is only eclipsed by the bonuses of bankers and liberal credit controls.



Believe me,until stupid politians and society do not reward this irresponsible behaviour,then the ordinary tax payer will continue to prop these people up. Tabloids and Jeremy Kyle thrive on such tripe. They could start by not giving child benefit and tax credits out - stop at child two. Fathers who dont pay should get their benefits reduced and maybe named and shamed. The parents of this pair need to have their benefits docked.

About time the benefits society was called time on. This is a wind up subject but simple truth in SS is - too many chiefs and not enough indians,and a society that allows pc ness-but is not tough enough on slappers,benefit cheats and laziness. Thats why you need a sense of humour to keep you sane,regards to all,Steve

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 17:39

I am still miffed that he got a tenner at that age...........................

scotsguy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 249

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 17:47

whats a tenner now a days ???????? can't even buy 2 packets of cigarettes, lets hope he does not smoke or drink, but then again with his money from the Sun, he will soon be richer than all of us and if not the father he will become twice as rich with his story about being cheated. They might even make a movie about it, how any 8 year olds will want to play his part and have some fun with a 15 yr old ????????

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 17:54

Message121. He stopped smoking and drinking when he was 5. He said it was stunting his growth. ))

Steve1953



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Posts: 298

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 18:09

No 1- what was he smoking - this could be a script for deadenders - they're 10 a penny

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 18:29

you may all laugh at british justice beleive me i cry my eyes out every night. fathers for justice. My beautiful 3 year old grandson has now been diagonesed autistic. if you could seehim he is so beautiful and sometimes i wonder what goes on in his head. he is so bright and intellegent but his lack of speech etc makes them label him. his test to do a three piece jigsaw he and i completed a 42 piece in 2 mins and as a reward i taught him a song twinkle twinkle little star now when i ring him its grandmama singing so i get it. aS FOR JUSTICE THE FATHER HAS NOT PAID ONE PENNY AS he does not waNT TO KNOW A WIERD KID. now suddendly he want access because his brief said to do so otherwise benefits cut unless you prove you tryt o gain access long court battle him on legal aid she has to pay a grea deal of monety to keep him away whee is the justice

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 18:30

Steve. The boys Dad has sold theTV Rights. They are bringing back the old tv programme called- 'Whose Baby'

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 18:32

Sorry to hear that Lilli. My post had crossed your one.

Steve1953



Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 298

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 20:36

Lilli,you will have seen my note a couple of weeks ago on Daniel Tammet - his book Born on a Blue Day is quite illuminating - only half way through it.



Interested in this subject as I had to supervise a young man with Asperger's disease - he spoke and acted totally black and white .ie he called a spade a spade and people didn't like it. Underneath he was a bright kid but people labelled him - but he just took a bit more understanding and time. Nice lad,totally honest,and his mum used to tell me he used to add up the prices of goods bought in the supermarket - but he was also a whizz on computer spreadsheets.Just a question of finding what he is good at ,bit of trial and error,but rewarding.The father is very short sighted,he will be the loser,and your grandson he will be ok,regards,Steve

Steve1953



Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 298

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 20:42

Dear No 1,I'm sure you did not cause any offence - as I said,if you didn't have a sense of humour in this job you would go mad.



We had a lot of dealings with the local undertaker - great bloke,and some of the blokes he had working for him had wicked senses of humour - you can imagine the jokes - but it was Dave Allen type to keep you sane ...life is very cruel,but as long as there is no malice or intent...it will be ok,kind regards,Steve

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 21:01

From the Sunday Times-:



Dennis Patten's mother said she was loathe to talk about her new granddaughter, because she did not want to ' interfere with my son's business interests'



Makes you all warm and toasty that, this innocent baby and its child parents are so cherished, money earned from deals going into a trust fund then??



Will the benefits agency be asking the families how much money they are

getting from the tabloids etc and will they adjust their benefits accordingly? I understand that Chantelles mother's benefit claims will be an alleged £30k p.a. for her family.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 22:47

Alfie lives with his Mum in a lovely £300.000 house didn't mention whether we as tax payers are paying the rent or if she owns it picture of it in yesterdays paper. On a tv programme today it was said his Mother will be appearing in court in the next few weeks for his non attendance at school, maybe by not going to school he misssed out on the sex education.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
17/02/2009 23:09

£10..........God help us....

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 11:01

Thank you stevie and No 1. I will try to get the book Steve. Its just so hard for her with me being so far away but your kind words will encourage me xx

scotsguy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 249

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 10:32

Seems all has gone very very quiet now, has anyone everheard or read of the results of the DNA Test????????????



Is Alfie the youngest dad ?????



Or has she been sleeping around as many of the papers mentioned/claimed????

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 10:39

Who knows !!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 10:56

scotsguy. It seems to have all gone quiet. I heard he's spent some of the publicity money though. He bought a new spiderman outfit and a pair of roller skates.

scotsguy


Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 249

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 11:13

perhaps he wants to join the Atyrau Office Window Cleaners in Kazakhtsan, they absail down the buildings wearing their spider man outfits, wish I could post the pics of these guys here, seeing was beleiving.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 12:54

That would be a sight for sore eyes scotsguy!

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 16:31

Max Clifford got a media blackout, not allowed to report anything else.

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 17:03

whats the world coming too

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 17:59

So much for the lets leave our kids to make their own decisions...



But to be fair... Are we getting into the realms of irresponsible parents as hinted at above, should over stressed care workers not be given more numbers, would the government be accused of meddling too much in families, or is it our culture and we are reaping such rewards?



Regards Joseph