Free Ronnie Biggs?

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:06

There is speculation that Ronnie Biggs will be let out this summer.



He is now 79 years and still a major threat to the community according to some.



If he committed the same crime today he would have served no more than 10 years in jail but here we are 40 years on still paying his board and lodge. Yes, I know he was enjoying himself in Brazil for a few years but I believe he should be home, even if it is to die.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:09

Here Here

Said that years ago, if you rob a bank you get 30yrs if you rape or molest a child you get 7/10 years where is the logic in that

I say Free the poor sod now

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:19

thats nowt



Ripper's fit to be freed from Broadmoor



YORKSHIRE Ripper Peter Sutcliffe has been classified low risk and recommended for release from Broadmoor, The Sun can reveal.

The top-security hospital’s doctors have told lawyers representing the Ripper — who murdered 13 women and tried to kill seven others — that he is no longer dangerous.

According to a source close to Sutcliffe, the medics will support his bid to get out of Broadmoor. And if Jack Straw’s Ministry of Justice agrees with their verdict, he will be moved to a medium-secure unit. That means he would skip the high-security step of the mental hospital process and be given much more freedom.

He would then be allowed on to the streets to begin rehabilitation into society.

The source said: “If Jack Straw rubber-stamps it Peter will be packing his bags.”

The source added that the doctors’ greatest fear is not the risk the Ripper poses to the public, but the risk THEY pose to HIS safety because of enduring anger

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:20

I would say yes, let him out, but on the STRICT condition that he makes NO money out of his notoriety. He is a convicted criminal who escaped justice during his prime, had the life of riley, then came back to get his health sorted on tax payers money.



By the way - there is also talk of Peter Sutcliffe being eligible for parole in just a few years (poss. less) and he is being moved to a low security jail as he is no longer "a threat to the community" - yeah, right!!! Murdered 13 young young women because voices in his head told him to!!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:21

He has already been granted legal aid to go to the High Court to argue under the Human Rights Act that he is entitled to a specific tariff for his crimes

Blackie


Joined: 20/12/2007
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:39

America is one of the few western countries where the crime rate is dropping they also have the largest prison population per capita of any western country its quite easy to join the dots up here

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 14:59

Message 5: So I read as well, don't you think its ludicrous that he is allowed to even contemplate early release? Human rights? What about the human right to LIFE that he cruelly snatched from those poor girls and women?

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:06

When Sutcliffe was given life that should mean Life **not well lets wait and see,* if you take a life then you should serve a life for each and everyone he has killed, so how can they even think of giving him parole or an easier life inside.

Does the families of the Victims he killed, get relief after a certain time, no their grief goes on forever until they themselves die

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:06

All criminals should serve their sentences as given. Life should be life - no early release. You do the crime - you do the time.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:13

Free Ronnie Biggs! I thought there was only one of him ))

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:32

some of the singers over here should be locked up....



Nick

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:42

Message 11 - for what Nick - crimes against the eardrums?



J

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:46

Sorry - should have probably said "GBH of the eardrums".



More seriously, I think Ronnie Biggs should be freed. He's served his time and is an old man - I can't see that he's much of a threat to society nowadays. Peter Sutcliffe on the other hand ....................

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 15:53

Garry Rob is an old man - do you think they should go easy on him ?





Nick

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 16:03

steady on Nick - he's middle aged.....and No they shouldn't go easy on him.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 16:04

Ronnie is dead.!!! and so will old Gary be soon.thats when the problems will start.will his Mother be responsible for the mess hes left,or the Brother,who could you Sue..what would you do...stale mate....reclaim. his is hidden.how far will he go.SHOOT his helpers and friends TOO...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 16:10

He's not dead yet is he spider?

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 17:51

Let the bastard out -think obout the gaurd that was killed.

pitty they didnt let Myra Hindley and Brady out the people of Hyde maybe would have saved us a lot of money.

life should mean life

Hippo not in a forgivness mood he is not today

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:00

Deport Biggsy to north Cyprus where no doubt he would feel at home with the other lawbreakers and fugitives.

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:10

Peter Sutcliffe actually received 20 life sentences,

What does that mean then.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:17

must be ya drink..Biggs is gone..his son held his hand,stays now in flat Bethnal green.girlfriend,and son came too,live off the state.like they all do..Ronnie spent all the dosh...and so will old Gary.alreadys had a taste of the good life.old Gary Glitter had to go back,,people who end up with no money always go back..ta get more..and the u.k is always coughing it out.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:37

Peter Sutcliffe actually received 20 life sentences,



What does that mean then.





It means he'll be out quite soon.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:43

Is it me but I really cannot understand message 21.



Are you talking about Ronnie Biggs or Ronnie Kray?



P

BillyB


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 18:50

What ever they do with Ronnie Biggs, he shouldn't be allowed a free train pass. Will he sing with the sex pistols again?

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 19:15

A lorry driver kills SIX members of one family - his punishment - 3 months for each victim!!!!

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 19:27

If they hanged more people it would save all this rubbish about whether we should release people or not.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 21:32

the wicks, msg 23.



I have seen this person post before and they are obviously british but trying to pretend they are not. Failing badly as they do not even read the title of the thread.

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 21:38

Could have been drinking as the posts have become less coherent as the day went on.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 22:17

cyprusishome.the thread is free Ronny Biggs..and he is dead....i am of mixed race.and you have had the laugh taken out of you.too much Brandy Sour.!!!! threads change..are you still talking the same old....and boring the pants off the mid week lunch club.....

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 22:28

oh dear, me thinks spider has had too much sauce!!!!!!!!



Maybe if he/she/it was sober he/she/it would know what was going on!!!!!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/02/2009 22:36

Nither,just Weaving away.am a big spider am i.....and black too.what colour are you Green..

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 03:23

Bring back hanging !!!!



I hate wasting my money keeping these w*nk*rs in nick.

Biggs the murderer probably cost the taxpayers millions also... Hang him.

Sutcliffe. Torture him for a few days.. Then hang him.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 09:17

well said stewy!

keep him in jail for the rest of his life, even if the tax payer has to pay.

it will be worth it.

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 12:32

Ahem! what do I have to buy to get a 'free Ronnie Biggs'?

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 13:50

mssg.22:



When sentenced he was told by the Judge that he would serve a minimum of 30 years!!! Its a joke isn't it?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 14:00

Ailletoo



" Ahem! what do I have to buy to get a 'free Ronnie Biggs'? "



First off you have to get a Brazilian !!!

SaraP


Joined: 30/04/2008
Posts: 295

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 14:37

Can we stop having a dig at the singers over here please! You know where they sing and who the singers are that you keep having a dig at..If you don't like their singing then you should stop going to the venues where they sing.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 14:46

He should be kept in prison for the rest of his life.But no doubt the do good brigade will win in the end.Same should happen to the Ripper and any one serving long term sentences.There should be no time off for "good behavior".The full sentence should be served.As has already been said "you commit the crime you do the time"..

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 21:23

cyprussishome....David..shame you have nothing better to do with your life,than just sit about watching a spider crossing your screen...as they say...get a life..can i have more chips with me sauce.ta....

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 21:31

Message 39 - Mr/Mrs/Miss Spider. Forgive me, but I could not help but notice that the last message you posted (39) is the only one I could make any sense of whatsoever - and you've posted quite a few!

Is there a logical explanation for this?



Regards



J

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 21:51

oh the few that are whatching me weave..good.S.O.H. me legs are going everywhere.laughing so much....are you a pair.......

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
20/02/2009 00:22

coachie, now I know you are a geordie then I know you talk nonesense. LOLOL



Darlington born and bred myself.



Sorry, only joking of course and back on subject.



I agree that criminals should pay the price. Do not believe in Capital Punishment however.



My issue with this thing with Biggs is the inequality. He got 30 years and the authorities seem insistent that he seves it. Yet we have Sutcliffe already on light duties which usually leads to a release soon. Also if you commit violent crime now you are told you are a naughty boy/girl, serve a couple of weeks and then let out into a new flat, benefits etc.



I do not condone the crime or criticise the punishment, I just want those in power to return to the sentencing of the 1960's or show equanimity.



Here is no different. The jail is full so the judiciary is finding ways of releasing early as many as possible to make room!!!