Crystal Bay Marina ( Evergreen Site )

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
19/02/2009 13:16

HI all

yet another 255 posts ! here we go again



thanks for the pictures Tony we where there just about a month ago its moved on quite a bit, pool looks great and love the lamp post !



few more months yet i think, but think it will be best evergreen have done to date.... cant wait



Mark

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
21/02/2009 22:08

wheres all the evergreen's gone

TonyJ


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
22/02/2009 14:48

Hi all



have just returned from a 5 day trip to North Cyprus, originally having booked a trip to complete the handover of the apartment.....(remember that email about completion in December??????).



Nothing much to report.....construction of roads, walls, swimming pools and other infrastructure seems to be progressing well.



I have partially completed snagging.....electricity and plumbing outstanding.



I also met up with Nurten who can't give any definite dates for completion but states that a directors meeting will be held at the end of the month!



Regards



Tony J

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
22/02/2009 15:36

Hi Tony J Hope you had a nice trip, can you tell me if you have paid the 2000.00 final payment to Evergreen ,as some people have already paid even the the site is not completed. Tony Hickey

TonyJ


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
22/02/2009 16:52

Hi TonyHickey



Had quite a nice trip, saw some fantastic thunder storms!



I have not paid the final payment yet and do not intend to until it is ACTUALLY complete, in fact I mentioned this to Nurten and she agreed , she also apologised for requesting the initial request for payment in January ( apparently the construction company told her it would be ready, but rain has delayed things !!!).



She did also say that some people had infact paid even though the site was incomplete.



I also spoke to Saul from North Cyprus International who said that he would gladly check if the site was finished before we pay the finall stage payment.



Regards



Tony J

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:44

Hi all,

We are not going to pay our final instalment until site is completed as per contract.



Nurten also informed us of the directors and builders meeting at the beginning of March, when, she stated it is hoped that we will have a definate date for completion.



We have booked summer holidays flights for July so hope it is all finished well before then.



Keith

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 21:43

Great pictures -the pool looks to be coming on.



Unfortunately i paid before I went out in early Feb as I thought i was going to see a complete site. However, Evergreen have agreed to deduct the interest I have lost for paying early from the site fees , however much they are?



Northern lad2 - I am also out there in July with flights booked. It looks as though there has been a good amount of work since i was there in 1st wk of Feb. fingers crossed or i have 3 unhappy kids....

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 20:46

Hi All,

Just had word from our mate in NC, he states all major snagging jobs completed on our apartment, only a few small finishing touches to do.



He states site is still a bit of a mess, pool tiled but no paving stones around it. No electric or water to apartments and roads are not complete.



He does say that they are working hard on the site.



Wineman.



I am out on me own at the end of April - hope site will be finished! by then.

We are taking our sixteen year old out in July how old are your children?

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
04/03/2009 01:52

Hi all going out for a week on Sunday will post new pictures on return if anyone needs any photos of there apartments let me know.

Tony

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 01:08

Tony,

Hope you have a good trip. Could you take a few pictures of our apartment Penthouse A2R and the immediate surroundings if possible.



Thank You.



Sarah and Keith

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
05/03/2009 16:31

Tony,

have a good time.

I like most of us, would be interested to see pictures of the pools and clubhouse etc. as these seem to be the last bits to complete.

If you meet up with Nurten see if you can a completion date from her after her 'directors meeting'

Not that I think it will make much difference how many meetings they have , it's the builders who are in control and it will be finished when it gets finished !

Hoping to go out again ourselves maybe June. Will it be done by then?

Safe journey.

Ian

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
06/03/2009 14:37

Hi to you all,

I am going out to Cyprus on the 3rd of April for a couple of weeks with my young son so I will feedback re CBM on my return. I am meeting Evergreens rep to go out to check if the snagging has been completed, he did this with Tim Cheetham from NCI and sent me the snagging list, all I need to do is check if it has all been completed. I am hoping to go out again late June for 3 weeks so hopefully by the time I leave everything will be in place. I have ordered the white goods from Evergreen and the Air/Con Frank & Joan's web-site, and hope to get furnishings from Botanica as there prices were reasonable and the quality seemed to be good. Looking forward to meeting all the CB Mariners. I have B4M APARTMENT

Regards

Bruno

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
07/03/2009 13:12

Hi all,



Just heard from Nurten no update on completion date as yet but she did send us some photos of the site taken two days ago we will try to post them.



Keith and Sarah

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
09/03/2009 16:01

Just as we thought then.

The directors meeting concluded nothing !

Look forward to the photos.

Thanks.

Ian

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
10/03/2009 12:08

Ian,

Will try to get the photographs posted today, will have to ask my sons lol.



Keith

rosiem


Joined: 14/05/2008
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
10/03/2009 15:43

We have been over in feb and Nurten has requested final payment but the site will NOT be ready untill end March / April My colleague is visiting April 17th and he will send back report and photos

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
11/03/2009 11:49

Hi all,

I think I managed to post the photos sent from Nurten, apparently taken at the end of last week on:



//crystalbaymarina1.multiplyhttp.com/



Things look like they are progressing - slowly.



Keith

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 14:32

Kieth,

Sorry can't see the photos.

It could be me, can anyone else get to them?



Ian

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 21:29

Hi Northernlad 2



Where are the updated pictures - can't see them. Would love to see how much work has been done since I visited in early Feb....



Karl

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 21:38

They appear to be on my better halfs page only I will try to get them sorted so all can see.



Sorry.



Keith

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 21:47

http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/photos

try the above link

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
12/03/2009 22:45

Hi all,

The photographs are now posted so all can see on the above link.



Keith

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 19:01

Hi all. Just got back happy to say work on the site seems to be steaming ahead. All apartment blocks are now constructed, small swimming pool is concreted around the patio area. The large pool was ready for tiling Stone walls around the site are speedily being built. The white good packages have started to be fitted to the apartments. Tarmaccing machinery is now on site and the talk is the finish is to be expected within two months . must say we were well pleased

Tony

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 10:41

Tony,

Great news and good photos.

I see one particular photo of a ground floor apt. with fridge and waher near space under the stairs.

Washing machine was under stairs fridge freezer was not.

Did you notice the reason for this?

I ask this because I bought an Arcelik fridge freezer (450 ltr) to what I thought was the same spec as the evergreen package and have found (according to the dimensions) that it wom't fit.



Can you shed any light on this.

Anyone else know about any problems?



Kieth and Sarah, thanks for the photos nice to see the progress.



Anyone seen any electric or water yet?

Cheers all.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 20:53

Tony,



Great photos - looks like a lot has happened in 5 weeks since I visited. Do you think the bar/restaurant and main pools will be ready by the end of May as per contract?

Were there several apartments/blocks along way from completion near the main pool area?



Thanks again for the photos.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 20:55

Northern Lad2



Sorry - I meant to thank you for your photos.



Is anybody using Debra ex NCI to arrange furniture etc.?



Karl

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 02:10

hi all

gd man Don’t worry about the fridge freezer not being under the stairs, they have just been deliver to the apartments and they were being in the process of being set up.

Wineman. All the apartments near the main pool are completed structurally meaning no more concreting is required, some are still awaiting rendering on the exteriors. As for the club house and pools being ready for May almost certainly the pools will be ready as one of the workmen was applying waterproofing to the large pool ready for tiling. The club house yes if they get a move on. Will the site be finished in may i think so.

Tony

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 11:40

Tony,

Just a quickie was there any sign of water and electric on site and to the apartments, or if not any word of when there would be from builders.



Keith

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 21:55

Not long now guys.

I have been reading all your posts on proposed completion of CBM and it reminds me of about 12 months ago when we were in a similar positiion with CBV.

Believe me it is well worth what seems to be an endless waiting game.

I will be over 22 April for 2 weeks, and will gladly take some pictures for you of the progress. Will any of you be over there around that time? feel free to come along to CBV and have a chat, or I may even see you on site as I am noseying around.

Hope all goes well in the final stages.

Regards

Andrew

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 01:56

Get your money ready people. Have just been back three days and my pictures are out of date. Take a look at the new pics small pool now tiled round the patio area, bag pool tiled roads being tarmaced

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 01:59

http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/

Get your money ready people. Have just been back three days and my pictures are out of date. Take a look at the new pics small pool now tiled round the patio area, bag pool tiled. roads being tarmaced

tony

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 15:00

Tony,

Thanks for the pictures, Wow what a difference a few days make, it really is starting to look good and the site may well be finished by next month.



Keith

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 15:03

Andrew,

I am over for a week from 21st April and staying at a mates place, In the villas that are just below CBV.



I think it would be good to meet up for an Efes and you can tell me all about living on an Evergreen site.



Keith

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 18:11

Lets hope the pace of work continues. The new photos certainly show an improved site as to when I visited in early Feb.



Look forward to seeing you.



The deadline for completion is still May 31sr and I wonder how the buildings near the pool are progressing as these were just shells with no paint, windows etc.



Regards,



Karl

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 14:26

Hi all,

We asked Nurten about electric connection on site and to our apartment. This was the reply:



"The contractor has completed all the under construction/infrastructure works and also the transformer room.



The electric company has to visit the site for the final approval in order to have the meters fitted, we are expecting this any day now".



This all sound good, but I am not quite sure when the NC any day now really is lol.



Nurten also sent us some very recent photographs of the site - which is looking good - we will post them later today.



Keith and Sarah

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 18:30

I (with the help of son number 2) have managed to put the new photographs on the Multiply site.



Keith

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 18:50

Thanks Keith,

Looking good.

seem to be moving at quite a pace.

I think they must have got contractors in to do the roads.

Hope we see the clubhouse & pools grow at the same rate and all will be good.



Cheers.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/03/2009 16:37

I have just had an e amil from Nurten today stating they expect the site to be complete by the end of May.

The photos do look as though it is moving along quickly. Makes you wonder how they thought it would have been finished by Jan, even without the excuse of rain........



All the best,

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 22:40

Hi All

nurten is saying contractor saying site will be completed by may

sarah and keith

TonyJ


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
04/04/2009 11:25

We've heard that before!!



Tony

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
04/04/2009 15:29

Tony,

Lets hope that this time the end of May actually means the end of May.



Looking at the photographs and updates from people visiting the site appears to be starting to progress at a fast pace.



Suntanman - Andrew,



Hope to meet up with you - as I said before I am out 21st April



Keith

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
04/04/2009 16:25

Keith,

Sorry, I must have missed your earlier post.

Look forward to meeting you, there's lots to talk about !

You may not recognise me from my profile photo, I've ditched the make up.

Andrew

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
04/04/2009 16:51

Andrew,

Look forward to seeing you and picking up some useful advice about life in NC.



If you send me your contact number I will give you a ring when I arrive.



Keith

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
04/04/2009 17:54

Keith

I've sent you a private email.

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:37

Hi All

Got our ptp today so another tick off the list

Now need a finished apartment and site

bring on the summer

sarah and keith

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
06/04/2009 19:18

Hi Keith Did your advocate advise you of PTP or did you find out yourself. Many thanks Tony.

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
06/04/2009 20:51

Sarah & keith.

Congratulations on your PTP, another hurdle over!

We had notification last september that ours had gone through, and that it would be approx 3 months from then for transfer of title deeds.

I contacted our advocate in Jan this year and was told.......another 3 months... we're still waiting.

The reason for the delay rests with Evergreen, they are still not ready to transfer title, no reason given.

I had forgotten all about this, and thanks for your post, I will contact TRNC again for an update.

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:08

Tony,

We found out ourselves by emailing our reference number to the TRNC Propert office and they informed us that our PTP had been given in March, they were quite quick in replying to our emails.



Andrew,

Another hurdle over but I have a feeling we are going to have to get over a few more yet before we are sipping an Efes or two on our roof terrace at CBM - I did send you a private reply to your Email.



Keith

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 10:45

Andrew,

We informed Nurten that we now had our PTP and asked what was the next step. This was the reply:



Unfortunately the transfer process is not ready as yet, once we have

completed handover of apartments at the site then the parcelation of title

deed is processed and the file needs to be approved at each government

office and finally is taken to the Land Registry Office for transfer. This

procedure can take anything between 3 months upto 1 year after handover.



I think this is fairly clear and could mean that we will be waiting a long time for our deeds, as I understand from a number of previous posts that is the norm.



Keith

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
11/04/2009 13:58

Keith,

The annoying thing is that we were told that parcelization was complete and the final process would be complete within 3 months, over 6 months ago. Contacted our advocate again the other day, and have been told...guess what....another 3 months, as parcelization is not completed!



See you in just over a week.

Andrew

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
11/04/2009 19:35

Andrew,

It appears that we won't be getting our deeds in the near future, reading some of the other posts it appears that it could take a long time.



Look forward to meeting you, in just over a week, can't wait to be over there and see how our apartment and site is progressing.



Keith

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:04

Hello - it seems to have gone a little quiet recently. Has anyone got any more news.



Last I heard was completion by end of May - seemed a little amb itious to me but must remain positive.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
23/04/2009 15:21

Hi all,

just had an e-mail from nurten saying expected completion by end of may and she attached the latast photos of the site.

I will post these on multiply as soon as I can.

She also advised us to contact her again before booking any flights !!

We were looking to go out in June but better wait and see.



Maybe some of the Furom members who I think are out there now will come back with good news.



Cheers for now

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:13

Hello all,



I have eventually managed to post 2 photos on the multiply site - 1 is the small pool and the other is Block 3. these were taken by the person who did our snagging partII.



All the best.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 14:34

Hi all,

As per message 53, a link to the latest photos we were sent by Nurten last week.

http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/photos/album/45.

Don't think they show much change yet. I think we will be waiting for the club house, gym, bar etc to be finished.

We asked Nurten about booking flights in June and she said completion is still on for end of May but check with her again before booking anything !!!

Whet does this tell us?

Cheers for now.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 14:39

Sorry.

Link did not work.

Try this.

http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/photos/album/45/Latest_from_Evergreen_220409



Cheers.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 14:39

Thats better !

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 17:18

Thanks for the photos gd427man.



I am now feeling a little worried as we have flights booked for July 5th.



Please somebody give me some good news....



K

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 18:06

Hi Wine Man,

I was at the site between 3rd April -17th and think it highly unlikely that the site will be complete by the end of May ,when I was coming away the roof for the club house was just about to be errected but I think they have some way to go before the whole thing is complete. Having said that I was quite pleased with the site the only bad point is that there are about 8/10 units which still have to be completed, Nurten informed me that an investor who had brought these was having financial problems which means the site will still look like a bit like a building site until these are finished. I think you should be okay by the 5th July I am hoping to come out about the same time to finish one or 2 things, would be nice to meet and have a chat.

Take care

Bruno

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
28/04/2009 09:43

Hi Bruno,



Great idea - we will be in PB3(r) for 2 weeks from July 5th...(hopefully..!!). In the meantime keep in touch.



K

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
28/04/2009 11:20

Hi K,

I am in A10 PR there may also be others around at the same time so it would be nice if we could all meeet up for a few beers somewhere local, if anyone else is going to be there around the same time please let us know so we can arrange something.

Regards

Bruno

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
28/04/2009 13:07

Bruno,



Have you either had your keys handed over or been given a date when this will happen?



Reason I ask is that we have selected furniture etc and want to know when the keys are being handed over to enable delivery before we arrive - it's not long now and time passes fairly quickly.



thanks

Karl

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
28/04/2009 17:02

Hello all



Bruno we are neighbours, we have A10 pl

We are over from the 16th june for 2 weeks. May i suggest a couple of good local bars, the moulos or stevies bar, either would be a good place to meet.

tom

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 13:08

Hi all

Had a great weeks holiday , site looking good, builders working hard to get bar finshed roof went on in the week i was there.Site foreman saying will be ready by end of may.

Managed to pay deposit on furniture package went to botanica.

Opened 2 bank accounts needed to take contract and passport, one in sterling and one in lira.

Got quote for air con need handover first to be able to put in. Had a quote for apartment clean , £90 from a friend of a friend.

Have some photos will try to post. Have had trouble getting on sites as forgotten pass words lol dont know if its my age or the efes and sun.

Has anyone had email regarding electric ?

Has anyone looked into insuring apartment ?

Stevies bar 10mins walk from apartments !!!!!! enjoyed a good sunday lunch there.

Andrew it was nice to meet you and sue , hopefully be able to invite you up to our apartment for a beer in the summer.

keith

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 13:35

Glad to hear you had a good holiday,recieved an e-mail from Nurten last week to inform us that the electric authority have approved our site and payment is required by the 10th of May if you wish Evergreen to connect the electric to the apartments.

tony.

TonyJ


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 15:15

Hi Keith



glad you had a good holiday....what was the weather like and who did you get your aircon quote from?



Regards



Tony J

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 18:50

Hi all,



I can agree with nortern lad - Steve's bar (message 142)is a nice place for some food & a drink.



I have had 1 quote for insurance just to get a figure to work from. The company was intasure (usually advertised at the top of this page as North Cyprus Property Insuramce) http://www.intasure.com. The cover seemed fairly basic -



Buildings £1 million

Contents £7k



Total premium was £164.72



Has anyone else looked into insurance?



Looking forward to the photos - and it appears things may be on track for the end of May accordaing to the latest reports from you all.



Has anyone bought curtains for trhe large arch window in the Penthouse apartments?



All the best,



Karl

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 19:07

HI karl

Have not looked at insurance yet but was wondering if the management company will have a group policy because I dont see how we can insure our apartment if the other four in the block are not insured. Does your insurance include earthquake cover. Tony

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 21:20

Hi Tony,



This does include earthquake cover, along with accidental damage. I can't rememebr if I asked for cover if I rent it out but will check before I or if I take out the policy.

Regarding group cover - how do occupants insure in flats in the UK? Maybe that's another question to ask or does it just mean that if 1 property is insured that the other 4 occupants need to pay for the re-build out of their own pockets...??

I think basic buildings cover is a requirement/neccesity for owners (unless you are very rich...)



Tony - if you wish, I can scan the policy cover in and send via e mail or put on multiply site - let me know.



Cheers,



Karl

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 21:23

Keith: Sorry we didn't get to see you again before you left. I'm back home now, but Sue is still there for another week. I'll take you up on the offer of an Efes at your place.



Regarding insurance: Intasure are able to quote for individual apartments/full blocks and even the whole site, which is fine if you know all owners of your block, and can all agree to take out a policy with them. Originally, Lynx, our maintenance company were going to provide insurance and take the fees from the maintenance charges, but this didn't happen. They are able to obtain insurance from one of their local companies on your behalf, but the cover isn't as comprehensive as Intasure.

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 21:30

Karl:

Intasure insurance covers use for holiday home and rental (no extra charge) and earthquake cover



Stevies bar do a nice Sunday lunch, and if you like curry, try the Courtyard on Monday evening

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:29

Hi Corbytown, Wineman,

I went to Stevies bar just for a drink and it looks like a nice place easy to get to and within walking distance and its nice to know who my neighbour, I will be I there in early July so we may not meet this time but I'm sure we will at some stage. Karl the information on the hand over of the keys from Nurten was once the site is completed and all monies paid we would be able to get the keys which I assume will be at the end of May or when you are next out there. My intention is to get my furniture package delivered when I'm out there early July I have paid 50% to Botanica and also to get the A/C fitted before I arrive in July. Still a bit to do but I'm sure it will all be worth it when it's finished.

Keep in touch

Bruno

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:20

suntanman

can you walk it to stevies bar from blue bay village,and roughly how long will it take.

cheers gaz

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:47

Hi all

just added photos some of site ,views from our apartment , the marina lol and furniture from we have ordered.

sarah

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 22:58

gaz:



Stevies bar from Blue Bay, it could be possible to walk. If you set off just after breakfast you may get there in time for lunch!

Some friends of ours walked from Crystal bay View to the Moulos (about half way)? it took them 45 mins. That was last week when the sun wasn't shining, so in the heat of the summer I wouldn't recommend it. Don't forget you would have to walk back again, and after a lunch and a few Efes.........??????????........

Good luck if you try it.

Andrew

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 23:39

suntanman

cheers andrew,dont think i,ll bother.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 10:41

Hi Northernlad2/Sarah,



which site did you add the photos?

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 16:22

http://palacefan.multiply.com/

try this

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 18:01

Hi everyone. Is everyone paying the final payment by the 10th may 2009 so that the electric will be connected by Evergeen. Please any information will be welcome. Tony.

roversnan


Joined: 20/05/2007
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 18:51

Hi

When Nurten first asked for the money I sent it to Sener so as not to incur any more charges.

So yes we will be paying by the 10th hopefully, as I have so far sent 2 emails telling them to pay

Evergreen but haven't had a reply. Typical. Are you going to pay.



Lyn

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 21:59

Hi all

yes we have paid this week. Just think it will be easier to have electric sorted !!!!!!!!! not a choice really



hi lyn tried to send email but bounched back, hope you are ok

will try again lol



thanks for all the information on insurance , tony we were thinking the same about everyone in block getting group insurance but not sure how we would go about it , just think its important to get insurance once keys handed over ?

hi tony

we are getting air con from a friend of a friend living in nc, hes away at the moment but can get the number next week if you want it. Weather was cloudy some days , sunny others but 26 degrees on last day.

But the cloudy days made better by a pint and a half glass of efes , beats a pint.



keith and sarah

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
07/05/2009 15:58

Hi all,

I too have paid the final payment thinking it would save all the hastle.

Evergreen are fitting my aircon so I have asked them to tell me when this is likely to be done so we can complete snagging.

Interesting that roversman has had no reply from Sener law firm, as over the past months I have sent them e-mails and have heard nothing. Is everything ok with them. Do they still exist. lets hope so.

Did any of the recent visitors over there see if they were still in the same building as Evergreen.



Looking at going out Late June.

Did anyone fly to the south? I have heard rumours that they are starting to hastle people again.

Probably just rumours. I have flown to paphos 3 times and never heard a dicky bird.



Cheers

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
07/05/2009 16:32

Lyn,

Been trying to Email you, but mesSaGes returned saying your mailbox full.



Sarah

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
07/05/2009 16:40

gd427man,

I went to the Evergreen offices last week and Sener Law firm are still upstairs from them, last time we had problems we Emailed Evergreen and they spoke to Sener who got in touch with us.



I did notice a lot of Aircon units have been fitted by Evergreen already when I was up at the site.



I flew into Larnaca a 2 weeks ago - no problems - just had my case searched coming back into the South but only for fags and booze.



Keith

angels


Joined: 07/05/2009
Posts: 347

Message Posted:
08/05/2009 00:22

Hi I have been over to Marina and can confirm this is really moving on looks great The restaurant is coming on and will have a Top Chef cant wait for it to Open I will keep you all posted.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
08/05/2009 11:05

Thanks angels and keith for the update.

Keith, thats reassuring. thanks.

Looking to go out end of june so will be looking at flights soon.

Will we have a place to sleep though?

Cheers for now.

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
08/05/2009 19:58

Hi everyone I’ am back !!!!!



got a bit disillusioned with forum for a bit (not this thread) but with the negativity and back biting of certain posters, got dragged in and lost my cool that’s not me so I decided to leave forum for a bit.



Anyway back now but promised myself I will only post on this thread.



Was in Cyprus end of last month sold our villa in Yesiltepe which was so good for us with credit crunch and all that, signed contract one hour before Oram's case hit the fan again, So well pleased with what we got for it.



Feel very happy to be apart of 145 other owners etc and feel there is safety in numbers, Took loads of stuff from villa to penthouse and Nurten said we could put it all in wardrobes and put pad lock through door handles.



The site is looking amazing we are so impressed, very little snagging to do and they had done all we pointed out before.

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
08/05/2009 20:09

We paid our final payment yesterday so evergreen could get the electric connected, We also priced a/c when we were there, could get it cheeper but the firm were worried about having any problems with the pipe work in the walls etc so we asked and paid evergreen to fit the a/c yesterday as well.



Once we had done all that we decided to email senar law and ask about ptp and Ayhan emailed back today and said it came through in march so well pleased.



Looking forward to meeting you all, I think it's going to be a great site.



Mark & Joy

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 21:46

hi all

we are also looking forward to the end

good to see you mark and joy back chatting on here , also looking forward to meeting everyone, will you be out in the summer

electric due to go into day, fingers crossed

hope theres no problem with pipe work for air con as we have quote and someone ready to put in after hand over of keys





sarah and keith

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 11:34

All,



we will probably be contacted shortly regarding maintenance fees per annum for the complex. If anyone gets any information as to the cost please post on the site.



Does anyone know if we have to pay maintenance fees if the site is not fully complete - ie the 8-10 blocks that were still shells??



Karl

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 13:06

Hi Karl,

The 8/10 uncompleted units is a concern as I assume that the maintenance contract will be for all the units in the complex, does this mean we may have to pay more until these are finished. lt will be interesting to see what the charges are going to be hopfully they will be reasonable. Can anyone tell me where I would get pillows ,duvets etc not to bad for most oher things but if anyone can help that would be good. I have booked my flights and will be there from the 2nd July-23rd July so if anyone is around it would be nice to meet up for a beer and a chat A10PR.

Bruno

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 15:06

Bruno,



We will be there from july 5th - 19th and are in PB3(r).

Look forward to it.



Karl

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 16:12

Hi Bruno. The best place to buy any bedding at reasonable prices is the Curtain shop and Mermaid Fabrics.The Curtain shop is in the centre of Girne and Mermaid Fabrics is going East out of Girne on the main road. Tony.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 17:41

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the info I will also be needing curtains so that sounds like a good option, bringing over a few bits and pieces with me but duvets are pushing it, just a bit too big. I have heard that there is a shop for other house hold items I think it's called 1001 near Ercan airport do you know of this shop, I'm sure there are other shops but it would be handy to buy everything under one roof.

Hi Karl ,

I will make a point of coming over to see you at some stage during your stay be nice to meet you and see how you have managed everything apartment wise.

Take care regards

Bruno

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:53

Hi Bruno, Just been reading that you have changed your middle apartment to a penthouse because of the layout hope everything goes smoothly. Tony.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 14:03

Hi Tony,

It's all completed and I now have A10PR , it all went reasonably smoothly the usual extra charges which were incurred due to solictors fees but other than that pretty straight forward. Looking forward to going out in July to get all the rest sorted furniture in etc and all the other bits and pieces that are required. Hope to meet you at somme stage.

Take care

Bruno

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 15:41

All

Reg message 90

Well Do we have to pay maintenance fees ?

They are saying to be paid by 1st july but i think we all know the site will not be ready then

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 17:42

I have not been contacted about any Maintenance fees so July 1st seems to be the date. My point also was should we pay when the site is not fully complete.......I'll read the contract again....



Has anyone else been contacted about maintenence fees?



Bruno - look forward to seeing you in July.



Karl

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
22/05/2009 21:32

All,



just had an e mail from Nurten stating that the keys can commence handover once I have sugned the maintenence contract she attached - I will try to post this on the multipy website!! Also I have asked if this means the whole complex is finished.



A couple of questions to ponder on:

If the whole complex is not finished do we have to pay maintenence fees?

The agreement states a start date of June 15th 09 - does this mean that we are entitled to a payment regarding late completion (contract stated the site would be finished by end of May 09)??



If anyone has any answers please let me know.



Thanks,



Karl

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
23/05/2009 14:42

hi Carl

we have not got our contract yet so was wondering who is running the maintenance, the cost, and how long is the contract for. Are there any plans showing what landscaping is to be carried out and what poolside furniture is to be purchased

tony

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
23/05/2009 23:19

Tony,



I have sent you an e mail with the copy of the contract sent from Evergreen - have you managed to read it?



Karl

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
24/05/2009 01:00

hi karl

thanks have found the email .have just read it . What a shock (pleasant one) Maintenance fee £52 per year plus a float of £300 pounds would expect the 300 float to have to be topped up quite frequently in the first year or so as the shrubs for the landscaping are purchased and a water system installed, plus the purchase of poolside furniture.which will not be cheap in TRNC. I have read the rest of the contract and to a non legal eye like myself it does not seem to bad,would like to hear from anybody else with their views and I have put a copy on Crystal Bay Marina site. Tony.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
24/05/2009 01:03

http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/

northernlad2


Joined: 19/12/2007
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
24/05/2009 11:32

Hi All

Thanks tony for posting maintence agreement we havent recieved anything yet.

Have read it agree £52 yearly great only concern was how many times will they be asking to top up float , understand first year will be greater than others but dont want them asking to top it up ever month !!!!!!!

We emailed this week to ask about electric meters company meeting monday , should go in this friday.

I dont believe maintence fees should be payed until site communal areas are ready to use.

We would like to know also if this includes pool side furniture

We have a friend who will look at site to see if ready by 15 june

sarah and keith

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 10:34

Just had an update from a friend in NC.



He states pools full and working, topsoil all down and all roads/paths completed.



Looks like things are progressing well.



Keith

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 11:26

If i were an owner on the Marina site i would pay the £52 asap. on every other Evergreen site, the fees are stated as a monthly figure, so this looks like a bit of an own goal. Pay it quickly and then sit back and see the fireworks.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 16:06

Hi to you all,

I have had a look over the maintenance contract and personaaly I think it is a typing error when you consider that all the other evergreen sites are paying considerably more. The other reason is if you look section 4 maintenenace obligations (c) it states that if you are late with payments that a charge of £5-GBP will be charged daily but then the writen word states £50.00 per day, so I think it's a typing error, more likely to be £52.00 per month and a float of £300.00 but lets hope I am wrong.

Your comments would be welcome.

Bruno

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 16:30

Hi Bruno Hope it is not a typing error but you might be right, I was thinking the 52pounds a year was the management company fee as according to the maintenance agreement all costs ie. chemicals,cleaning. pool work weeding,watering paying the community area utility bills, carrying out maintenance and repairs are all paid out of the float. If it is only 52 pounds a year times a 145 apartments would come to 7540 pounds which does not seem a lot for the management company, if it was 52 pounds a month it would be 90480 pounds which seems more likely.We will just have to wait and see. Tony.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 16:41

Guys I would put money on it being £52 per MONTH, if not, then you have the bargain of the year

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
25/05/2009 17:56

I agree with Geoff (Msg 106) if you have been quoted £52.00 per year, and it is in black and white, go for it!

Good luck.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
26/05/2009 10:55

hi all

read agreement again if you read further down states annual maintence will be invoiced 4 months early ?

they have asked for float , and this will have over £30,000 and will remain at this level , as we will have to top it up !

havent recieved ours yet so will have to see

sarah

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
26/05/2009 17:33

Hi all, Just had an e-mail from Nurten saying we can have keys when we next go out there. An evergreen rep will meet us and handover keys on site if we tell them when we are arriving.

Not a single mention of Maitenance fees, but seem to recall a conversation we had with them that it would be around £500 per year depending on which company they used.

Cheers.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
26/05/2009 17:54

Hi Ian

congratulations on that news , when our you going out , hopfully our keys coming soon

sarah and keith

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
26/05/2009 19:32

Hello All,



The contract on the crystalbay site was kindly uploaded by Tony as I sent the copy of the contract to him. Before we all get carried away the £52 per year may be reduced for myself because I paid my remaining owed monies prior to Dec 31st as they originally requested - However, becuase the site was not finished by end of Feb (laugh...) I managed to persuade Evergreen to deduct the interest I would have lost on ther final payment from the Maintenence fee - so therefore the £52 per year may change.



However, since I received this contract I have asked Evergreen how much of a reduction from this contract I should expect to receive for loss of interest. To date I have had no response apart from some more pictures which I will upload to the multiply site ASAP.



If this contract is the final deal then some of you I am worried how many times we will be asked to top up the float, especially as it costs £25 per foreign transaction??



Anybody got any ideas??



Will update u.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:00

All,



just had another e mail from Evergreen stating that the recent contract for maintenence fees had errors. The main error was that the cost is £52 monthly (£624 p.a.) - the floats remain the same and the other error was that the £5 fee/fifty british pounds for late payment is actually £5/five british pounds.

This will be the contract we all receive - I am still awaiting my deduction, they seem to ignore that question......repeatedly.



Also they stated that regarding topping up the float - as an example Crystal bay view did not have to top up in the first year.



Looks like we should have returned the initial contract with payment straight away.



Anyone else received a contract?



Karl & Trudy

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:08

All,



just uploaded some photos on the multiply site - the small pool now is finished, it has water in it.!!!!

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:19

Karl,

We thought that £52 a year was to good to be true, sadly, £52 a month seems on par with other Evergreen sites i've heard.



We think that this is a hell of a lot of money when you think if only 100 apartments are completed and sold etc with the float this comes to over £92,000. Would like to know exactly what we will be getting for that amount of money - when the TRNC supposed to have a low cost of living and wages - may well be justified but it would be interesting to see the breakdown.



We have not received our contract yet.

roversnan


Joined: 20/05/2007
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
27/05/2009 19:46

Hi All,

We haven't received our contract yet either, just furniture package details today.

Is this £52 per month + vat.

I don't mind, but with a £300 float, how many times will they ask for a top up.



Hope you are all well.

Lyn and Rob

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
29/05/2009 13:00

hi all

thanks for the photos wineman

still waiting for our contract

sarah

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
29/05/2009 21:53

Hi all.

In response to wine man's post No 115, Our float at Crystal bay View was £400 for the first year, and yes, we haven't had top it up. Next year's float has been reduced to £300 because we still have funds in the kitty. Out of this we have paid communal water/electric/ pool cleaning, and even the fitting of gates to our copmplex.

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
29/05/2009 21:57

Keith:

Nothing to do with CB Marina, but I thought I'd let you know that I have received the GOOD NEWS. We won't see you in July, but will be over again on 19 Aug for 3 months!!!

Andrew

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
31/05/2009 21:45

Andrew,

I have sent you a private Email.



Keith

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
02/06/2009 21:16

hi all

has anyone heard if electric is ?



hope you are all enjoying the sunshine

sarah

jonnyconcrete


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 00:59

Hi all

We have just heard today from Debra Gardiner (our snagging lady) that the electric meters were linked up yesterday, and that keys would be available by next week.



Thanks for the pictures wineman, it is great to see a pool ready to jump into!



Alison & Paul

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 12:34

Alison & Paul,



Is that for all aprtments or just yours, been asking Nurten at Evergreen if meters in etc, but not getting a very quick reply.



Keith and Sarah

sheffpants


Joined: 10/09/2008
Posts: 353

Message Posted:
03/06/2009 19:41

Hi



Sorry about the approach!!



If you require any landscaping or household repairs please consider JJS Landscapes. We are made up of three expat partners with years of experience operating here in Northern Cyprus. Examples of our work can be found at http://www.jjslandscapes.com and our customer service number is 0542 886 2332.



Thank you for your time

Kindest regards

Steve

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
05/06/2009 20:45

Hi all,

Just been informed by Nurten that our electric meter was installed on Monday. They are having a engineer check that water and elkectric are supplied to apartment on Moinday 8th and if all Ok will be ready to handover keys.

jonnyconcrete


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 13

Message Posted:
06/06/2009 01:37

Hi Keith & Sarah



Just double checked the email, and Debra said all electric meters were installed! If we get any more info, will let you know.



Alison & Paul

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
06/06/2009 10:36

Alison and Paul,



Thank You we have been informed that our meter is in just waiting for water connection then should be ready to collect keys and be able to stay there can't wait, roll on end of July.



Keith and Sarah

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
08/06/2009 14:29

hello all

received our maintenance contract and i agree it is a bit steep. With the float, which i can see being a yearly thing its over a grand ! x145 apartments is it !!!

From when is this contract due to start ? Some people got theirs a while ago. All Nurten says is sign, obviously date it and return, does it start when you return the signed contract ?

i also think a fiver a day if your late with the payment is a bit steep, this maintenance company has obviously got ties with evergreen !!

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
08/06/2009 17:32

Just got my maintenance contract. Section 3a says that the first years contract is deemed to start on 15th june 2009 (subject to 4g).

4g refers to services being witheld unless enough monies are collected.

Ithink the float mony is a little steep but will be worth it if all is kept well.

I don't fully understand how much they are asking for.

They want the £624 + vat what is the vat rate?

They want £300float but hen say the owner is to top up the float when it reaches £200 within 21 days of date of notice.



Can anyone explain how much we are to pay?



P.s Does anyone know if aircon is in.



Cheers.

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
08/06/2009 23:15

Gd

Vat is at 17% making £730.08 to pay

and how i see the float issue, when THEY say it is down to £200 you have 21 days to top it up (if you dont do it within this time you will probably have to pay a penalty... £50 a day!)

So i think i am right in saying they want £1030.08 up front

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
09/06/2009 19:44

Thanks corbytown.

I think i'll e-mail Nurten for confirmation. Not that I doubt you, but if we only have to pay the £100 pounds when the float is running out, maybe we only pay £200 pounds now making a total of £930.08.

Does that make sense.

Also the vat on the property was 5%. Is it different for services?



Cheers.

roversnan


Joined: 20/05/2007
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
09/06/2009 20:13

Hi

I emailed Nurten yesterday asking what rate the vat was but she is out of the office until tomorrow. If it is 17% i agree corbytown with £1030.08 up front. Next years will be invoiced 4 months before expiry (February 2010 and has to be paid in 14 days. So we are actually paying for 8 months, at least this is how I read it. Others will probably read it different lol

Will they issue a statement of all money spent? I do like to know where it all went.

Only hope they don't ask for a topup to many times.



Cheers Lyn

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 00:43

hi all

very quiet here

is everyone happy with contract ???

we were not expecting to pay in one lump sum

sarah

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 02:04

Hi all

we emailed nurten this week and got email back from a lady called Jenny Catlin she is the "managment and letting manager" for CB Marina



we had asked of break down of maintenance contract, reply was £723.38 inc 16% VAT plus £300

TOTAL £1023.38



we asked if water and electric was on yet, reply was.... the electric and water are being connected and will be checked by our company engineer on monday



we also said would the "C" blocks be paying maintenance so the bill's are shared by all 145 apartments reply was..... NO as these apartments have been put on hold for the time being



has anyone got any up to date pictures ?



Mark

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 12:13

mark

she is saying "c" blocks are put on hold for the time being

are they completed or still shell like ?

if not, i would deem that as the whole site is not finished and according to the contract, final payment is only due when the whole site is complete.

We are out there next week so i might be calling in the office

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 18:11

Hi all Just sent this to uur new contact Jenny.



There are a couple of things that we would like clarified.



Our understanding is this, as an example, if there are 100 apartments completed and ready this makes the total maintenance fees of £70,000 ish and a float of £30,000 ish.



The contract appears to show that the maintenmaence service charge will cover:



Chemicals,Cleaning and Treating of the pools.

Watering and weeding the garden areas

Sweeping, weeding the paths and roads and

Maintaining the community area lighting



The Float money seems to be for:



The utility bills for communal areas

water supply to the site

Maintenance and repairs to communal areas and insurance risks



It would appear from this that most running costs are to come from the float and we were wondering if you could supply a breakdown of what the maintenance charge, the £70,000, will be used for.



Look forward to the reply

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 18:33

Hi Tommy



As you will see there just shell's mate, i think the same way as you but I don't think Evergreen will !



Mark

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 18:52

Hi Everyone, Has anybody paid their maintenance contract yet, we are still awaiting a reply from Nurten and was wondering if everybody on Crystal Bay Marina is satisfied with the contract. Tony.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 00:06

Hi all

Is it just me or does anyone else think the maintenance fees are about what was expected surely its going to take two to three people full time running the site. As for the unfinished apartments I don’t think evergreen own them as according to my contract evergreen only own 5/6ths and the previous land owner 1/6. As for knowing what the money is going to be spent on there should be a full break down in the yearly accounts and if we are not happy we can vote for a new maintenance company, But to be quite honest up to now we are happy with the way things are progressing.

Tony Suzan

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 00:23

All maintenance companies should keep accounts and receipts for all services and items purchased for the site. A file should be placed in the office so that these can be accessed at any time by owners - the only way is to maintain complete transparency.



Have you asked the MC if they are keeping these type of accounts and will they be available to you all.



Without it you will never know where your money goes any professional MC should be keeping full accounts for tax purposes anyway.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 00:46

Hi Steph Thankyou for the information regarding maintenance contracts, I will check with Evergreen to see if they are keeping these accounts. Many thanks Tony.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
14/06/2009 10:21

Hi all

tony we have not been getting any replys from nurten , we have sent any questions to jenny about contracts

we only recieved ours yesterday so have not done anything yet was waiting to see .

We did think yearly fees would be up to £50 a month so no surprises there !!

My big concern is an unfinished site and then when we start holidaying a building site in progress it would be good to know what the long term outlook is for unfinished apartments

There is another thread about maintence company, positive feed back from other site using them and they send owners a monthly news letter informing them of whats happening

As for the electric they have been going in every monday for the last month lol

I understand it will take a team to keep the site running just believed some of the bills paid from float should come from yearly fees

tommy have a good time in nc check out merlins bar opening today its begining run by brian who is a friend of ours

sarah

elipsys


Joined: 25/10/2007
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 14:37

Tony

I have never had the pleasure of talking direct with you but have read many of your posts. With regard to the MC, you will pay your fee+VAT. The staff/management (of Trevor Green) will be paid from the MC Fee. You each then have to pay a 'float'. All communual bills i.e. water, electric, consumables etc will be paid for out of the float. When the float drops below a certain point (normally around £500 or so) then the owners will be contacted and a request for more money sent. You will have in your contract a time limit in which to pay. I think yours is 14 days ?? personlly I would have that changed as it may not give everyone the time needed to pay, (you receive the demand at the beginning of the month and not get paid until the end .....).

ALL receipts for bills and expenses to the site have to be made ready for inspection but ideally you should have an online account so they are accessed centrally as we do with Lynx.



cont.

elipsys


Joined: 25/10/2007
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 14:45

cont.



My site is local to yours and our site is Maintained by Lynx. We have a Residents Group established and work closely with Lynx on managing the work to be done and budgeting/financing. We have our costs broken down and are available from the Lynx Website. We have a regular update from M Company with online reports and photos. Part of the service is to write a monthly report on the site detailing issues such as Health and Safety, General Site Maintenance etc etc.



I hope that Trevor Green will follow suit for you guys.



See you out there sometime.



elipsys (aka Journey)

clayton


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
15/06/2009 22:37

the maitenance fees on crystal bay park are 52pound plus vat per month,with trevor green so i would imagine they will probaly be the same

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 14:18

Re msg 144.

I too have sent a query regarding the maintenance contract.

How much do we actually have to pay and by when. What is the vat rate etc?

I have sent this to nNurten and now forwarded it to Jenny.

Still ne reply yet.

I'm going out there on the 5th July so I have asked is a signed contract is ok if I take it to the office on the 6th.

I spoke to Nurten some time ago about these flight dates and she said she would arrange for an Evergreen rep to meet us and hand over keys. I have asked for this to be the 6th also.

I will also try and meet with them and discuss the rental package they spoke about. Will we be 'tied in' how will it work if our friend and family want to book dates... and so on.

I'm sure you all have similar questions if you are thinking of renting.

Does anybody know if we have water, electric aircon etc.?

Regards all.

Ian.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 22:06

Just received this from Jenny, I must say the site is looking great we will try to post the photographs:



The Gym and Restaurant have windows and the interior is being painted today. We have all the Gym equipment ready to be put in as soon as the paintwork has been completed.



Both pools have been filled and should be running as from tomorrow. I have attached some photos for you.



Ian,



We have our electric meter fitted for the apartment, dont know if we have any electric to the apartment as yet, however we were told that engineers should be on the site last Monday and sorting out both electric and water to apartments.



When I was there at the end of April a lot of apartments appeared to have had there Air Con units fitted.



Look forward to your update when you have visited at the beginnning of July we are out the end of July.



Keith and Sarah

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
16/06/2009 22:53

gd427 - we are there also on July 5th.



We have also asked Evergreen if we can pay the maint. fee when in TRNC. We have not had a reply as yet.



Northernlad2 - where are the photos you have attached? please forward to me also....thanks.



Karl & Trudy

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 11:50

Message 148

Hi Ian,

I think I am in a similar situation as yourself I am over on the 3rd July for 3weeks and have an appoinment with Nurten at 9.30 on Monday 6th this is to pick up the keys and meet their rep at the site just to check all is in order. I was hoping to be staying in the apartment on the Monday but it will probably be the Tuesday now, I am getting my furniture delivered from Botanica on Monday afternoon all being well and I also need to sort out electricity, so the Tuesday looks the safer bet. I havent done anything about the maintenance contract as yet I was hoping to take it over with me and sort it all out Monday morning, as you said it's not very clear as to what we are paying, how much is the VAT I know it was only 5% when we paid for the apartment, I would have thought it would have been the same for the maintenence contract however lets wait and see. Hope to meet you when I'm over I'm sure we will have a lot to talk about.

Bruno

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 13:32

Bruno Wineman & all,

I have just had a reply from Jenny our new contact at Evergreen re the maintenance payment. Her reply was as follows:

The maintenance fee for 12 months commencing 15th June 2009 amounts to £723.84 which includes service rate VAT 16% + £300.00 float.



Total amount due £1,023.84



Hope this helps.



I think they are pushing for the money now as the contract actually started on the 15th June but we will be taking the signed contract with us to the office.



we have been told to meet the rep on site and get keys at 10.00 am on the 6th. We will need to find somewhere to stay for one night as we fly on the 5th and I have been let down by a furniture compny who seem to have disappeared. (lost a big deposit) so will be looking for a bed first of all. hoping to get white goods delivered on the tuesday so at least we can eat.

Do you know if we have electric and water yet?

Look forward to meeting you all.

More later.

Cheers.

melz55


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 14:18

hy...its mel.....if u require home furniture and curtains u can contact me at 05338338436...cheers

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 14:31

Hi Ian,

What a bummer loosing your deposit I'm sure you could have done without that especially with everything else we have to pay,hopefully you will get something sorted out fairly quickly. I was informed by Nurten that electric meter and water would be there by 3rd July but we have to go to electric company to pay initial money.

Thanks for the info re maintenance company I will be paying that when I see Nurten on the 6th, hope to see you at some stage.

Bruno

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
17/06/2009 14:47

Jenny just e-mailed me again.

Guess what she wants more money. She forgot the water deposit. I thought this was coming out of the float. it appears not.

See below.



The maintenance fee for 12 months commencing 15th June 2009 amounts to £723.84 which includes service rate VAT 16% + £300.00 float. +£100.00 water security deposit.



Total amount due £1,123.84

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 09:14

All,



Has anyone else used Naomi Mehmet as the solicitor for the purchase of property @ CBM? If so please check the contract as clause 6 states we should be paid £100 for every calendar month if the site is note completed by May 1st 2009. By my reckoning we are owed £100 as the site was not declared finished until June 15th - or is it finished?



Does anyone else have views on this?



Karl

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 10:43

Hi Al,

Just heard from Jenny, that the site foreman has told her that all buildings are now connected to water and electricity, so I am assuming from that our apartments now have these services.



Keith

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 10:49

Wineman....msg 156



Although you are obviously right to think that compensation is due , I would count yourself lucky that you are only 6 weeks late and notionally £100 out of pocket.



Some poor folk on here have similar compensation clauses and are YEARS late.....yet they have no realistic chance of getting their compensation as the TRNC is not very hot on enforcement in cases like this.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 11:46

Hi Wine,

I am also with Naomi Mehmet and the same thought had crossed my mind regarding the £100.00 late payment ,also the fact that there are about 8/10 uncompleted units on site would count for the site not being complete. I think that we would be fighting a loosing battle to try and get compensation however it might give you a bit of lee way if you have other issues which I do.

Hope to see you over there.

Bruno

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 13:52

hi all

compensation, just happy to have got a finished apartment

tony

elipsys


Joined: 25/10/2007
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:10

There are just a couple of points I picked up on from reading the last few posts. Firstly, different buyers interpret 'finshed' in different ways. For some it is as it says in the contract and that means only the apartment/building itself being connected to the ammenities i.e. water and electric and the communual pool.



Whilst others interpret it meaning the site being finished. Noone likes to think they have been handed over an 'finished' apartment on a work in progress building site. Secondly, when looking at compensation it seems that Evergreens defence will be that due to a delay with kibtec installing the meters etc etc...... I agree with Bruno that the delays may give you a bit of lee way if you have other issues.



At the end of it all Evergreen are only bound by what is in the contract and for some it does not measure up to what is expected for the individual. Sometimes you are so tired of the wait and struggle that you are just grateful to get it.



Keep the faith

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:12

Bruno,

re nag 154.

Not expecting to have to go to the electric co. as Nurten said if we paid the final payment by the !0th May (and I did) the electric would be connected and then all we would need to do is change contract to our name.

I enclose a segmnt from her e-mail below.

Getting Electricity to your Apartment

In order to get electricity to your apartment you need to register at the electric office and have them visit the site to connect your apartment. This process can take anything from as little as a few weeks up to a couple of months - depending on the number of installations the electric company has in that area. However, we can instruct the electric company to connect the apartments on behalf of Evergreen (we have sufficient number of apartments for them to come immediately) and then the apartments will get electric supply. At this point you can use your apartment upon arrival and all you have to do is to change the account on your name once arriving to Cyprus.



Cont.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:19

From above.



Evergreen is going to connect ONLY the apartments that their owners will make their final payment before May 10th 2009. We expect the connection to be done no later than May 15th 2009. We strongly recommend you to take advantage of this service as it will save you time and money.



I hope this is all sorted.



Re msg 157. Thats great if they are all connected. I think there's about as much chance of compensation as there is of penthouse apts getting the pipe boxed in behind the wardrobe. I think that stinks.



Just like the dark units we chose are not actually the ones fitted which are much darker. We were promised they would be changed but after 3 months they said no !!!! so now everyone who chose the dark units has darker ones than they should have due to a supplier change.

Still on the bright side I'm with Tony, nice to have a finished apartment.



looking for a cheap bed for one night on the 5th July. Any ideas

Cheers.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 18:23

All,



I agree that it will just be good to have a finished apartment. And yes evergreen are contesting the date and blaming Kibtek as per a previous message. I just thought it was worth a try and that it may buy us some time so we can pay the contract fee when we visit in July.



On a brighter note Debra Gardiner has collected our keys today - on the down side the a/con has not yet been installed, the kitchen sink (scratched) has not been replaced and it was unable to be tested due to the water/electric not being connected to the apt, but the white goods are in situ....hooray.



Hope the electric etc are connected soon?



Wine Man

phoenix


Joined: 15/11/2007
Posts: 17

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 22:42

Hi everyone,

Is anyone unhappy with certain parts of the contract. Is the site finished? i.e. swimming pools filled. the clubhouse ready for use. I understood that the empty blocks near the clubhouse were originally, bought by a company that has now pulled out. Will there be any maintenance coming from those- around 30 apartments.What happens to our level of maintenance, and our money, if maintenance company says there is not enough money paid in-see clause 4G of contract.We were out in may,so unfortunately will not be able to get our in the near future, to see how things are progressing.



Ken

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
18/06/2009 23:31

Hii More likely to be around 45 apartments that are not completed according toEvergreen. Tony.

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
19/06/2009 12:16

Hi Ian,

I like you paid the final payment so I could get the electric meter fitted, that's a bonus if we dont have that worry but I thought we still needed to pay additional money to kibtek? I also agree with you re the wardrobe cupboard having exposed pipes to me means it's an unfinished product and I'm not happy with this at all.

If there are enough of us that want to get the pipes enclosed perhaps we should try to find a chippie who would be willing to do quite a few it might reduce the cost. I just think it looks naff especially when everything else looks a good standard I cant see their thinking behind this for all it would have taken to get this sorted.

Still mustn't grumble

Bruno

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
21/06/2009 12:32

Hi all

we also payed final payment with the hope electric sorted for when we arrived, we also believed we would have to register eventually

have people paid the maintence , and if you havent have your keys been handed over ?

we will be happy to have a finished apartment , with pools and club house, to use this summer as have booked flights.

We are concerned what will happen to the unfinished apartments and when, if they decide to continue with them will we be living on a building site, also believe pipes should be enclosed.

We also have compensation clause in contract , maybe they can take that off my £5 a day late payment for maintence or off my float fee lol

sarah

roughandslow


Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 21

Message Posted:
21/06/2009 14:36

I think that £70000 is a low figure. As you quite rightly put, what are they going to use this considerable amount of money on, weeding what hasn't been planted yet. I've also emailed Jenny and Nurten, guess what no reply.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 10:55

NL2 - our keys have been handed to Debra Gardiner, who is helping sort out the firniture etc. Currently we have not paid our maint. fee as we still waiting for Evergreen to deduct the monies they owe us frrom this which is what was agreed.

I have suggested we pay it when we are in TRNC on July 5th to 19th but no answer as yet.



Also, re compensation clause - it seems like a dead end and will take lots of time, which I do not have for the sake of £100 - it all boils down to the fact that Evergreen are stating it would have been ready on time if KIBTEK could connect utilities as planned. Not even photographic evidence is deemed worthy as the solicitor says these could have been taken anytime - we need witnesses etc and it has to go to court, blah, blah.



If anyone requires more info then please contact me direct and I'll forward on the e mail from Naomi Mehmet and evergreen.



I'm just looking forward to visiting on July 5th and a little bit nervous....



Karl

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 20:13

All - I have just uploaded 12 photos sent from Nurten, not sure when they were taken. Looks good but finished??



they are on the multiply site



http://crystalbaymarina1.multiply.com/





Wine Man

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
23/06/2009 21:08

Wine Man,

Thanks for the photograph the site is looking great, the gym I'm not to sure about. Hope everything is sorted and OK for you when you go out on the 5th July, we are out end of July.



Keith and Sarah

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 13:58

Yes Thanks for the pics,

Site looks good with water in pools and must admit the units behind look more finished than i thought they would.

Looks like the gym kit was put there just for the photo but nevertheless, its there. Wonder how the resteraunt is doing?

I have Paul from JKA (snagging) going out there soon to tell us about water electric and aircon as I still haven't had a definite answer from Evergreen !!! Bet you're suprised!

Looking forward to going out there.

Cheers.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 15:22

Apparently (believe this or not) there were 10 water meters not delievered but will be delivered and connected today. Strange that ours was one of obly 10 apts??



Also Evergreen have agreed that I can sign/pay the maint. fee when I visit on july 5th to 19th.



Happy days

Geoff1131MK11


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 396

Message Posted:
24/06/2009 17:29

Hi all, just a little thing for you all to think about.

Friends of mine are buying on Crystal Bay Park and they were talking to a couple who are also buying on there. They were not too happy paying up front for the maintenance as the 'Trevorgreen' company set up to do the maintenance are new and are not yet proven in doing site maintenance, so the other couple had a meeting with Evergreen and apparently they are going to pay their maintenance monthly in advance, so that if there are problems, then the maintenance company only have one months payment up front. I thought this was a good idea, as it gives both sides the chance to show that they can work together. I am on one of the Evergreen sites managed by Lynx, and 'touch wood' everything is going quite well.

Clara


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 12:34

So do you pay monthly?

Bruno


Joined: 10/01/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 16:14

Hi all,

I think we should all think about how the maintenance payments should be made,on a monthly or quarterly basis, what happens if things go wrong and we have paid a year in advance what do you think the chances are of getting any money back? Personally I like the idea of quarterly payments I think it makes sense and if they are a new company what do we know about them, equally they may be great but it makes sense to have a safe guard and if all goes well maybe next year half yearly might be an option. It would be nice to get other peoples views so we could then make representation to Evergreen or Jenny Catlin on site.

We need to have your views

Bruno

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
25/06/2009 16:32

Hi Bruno I emailed Jenny this morning and asked if electric water and a/c were done yet and said we wanted to pay the monthly part of contract monthly in advance because of the reasons yuo point out,



I also said that if the maintanence team were no good then paying in advance and next years 4 months in advance will not work,



I await reply

Ghost


Joined: 14/02/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 00:29

Trever Green is surely just TR Evergreen - A company owned and operated by Evergreen themselves with no history of maintenance.

If enough owners form an association prior to paying the maintenance then there would be more chance of reducing the term to say 6 months - The blue bay residents only pay six monthly.

If we all pay a year in advance there is no chance of retrieving any money if we are dissatisfied and also have to give 12 months notice to get rid of the maintenance company if they do not perform well.

Incidentally, when i asked Jenny Catlin for contact details of other owners (how else can an owners association exist) she told me to visit cyprus44 - where only a few owners post comments.

Perhaps it is not in Evergreen's interest for owners to be in touch with each other ???

Ghost


Joined: 14/02/2008
Posts: 8

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 00:56

Further to above as i don,t have enough posts to view any email addresses, please email me at gcf@btinternet.com. We own apartmt A4 PL.

LynxLtd


Joined: 24/04/2009
Posts: 46

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 09:42

Ref msg 146- 147 and subsequent messages referring to Lynx please note: Lynx successfully manages several Evergreen sites (Crystal Bay View, Blue Bay Village, Crystal Bay Beach Resort..) During the initial period it was a challenge for Lynx but now in our second year of maintenance we have transformed these projects into well-run communities. Many people have subsequently questioned why Lynx is not involved in Crystal Bay Marina and Pearl Bay Villas. We would like to make it clear that Lynx has been instructed early on that Evergreen will manage the projects for the first year in order to deliver a mature, operational development. We can understand this and agree that it may give the developer more leverage over the contractors to iron out any snags. We look forward to the prospect of assisting and working with you in the future. Lynx

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 00:29

Hi Everybody Has anybody paid their maintenance contract for the year, it would be nice to know other peoples views on this subject. Tony.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 22:50

Hi all,

Just seen a posting that our bar resteraunt is to be called 'Joya' and will be opening in July.



Good news as we won't have to far to go for an efes or two.

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
29/06/2009 14:44

Hi all,

Thats brilliant NL2 See you there, (where did you see the posting.

Tony, Yes I have actually paid my fee and taking contract over when I go next week.

Don't know if it was a mistake ?

Thought we could swap next year and get more competitive quotes etc.

Does anyone still actually know if we have water elec and aircon yet?

Cheers.

northernlad 2


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 132

Message Posted:
29/06/2009 21:30

Ian,

Saw the message about the bar on the Crystal Bay/Evergreen Developments post.



We to think it is best to go ahead with Trevor Green and if not up to scratch get a new one next year when

we can get together and sort it.



We have electric at our apartment and have been told that we will get water turned on a week before

we arrive in late July, I saw a lot of apartments had Aircon in April when was there.



When are you returning to the UK will look forward to your update if you are back before we go.



NL2

corbytown


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
30/06/2009 11:21

hello all



just back, have to say the site is looking good, even better when the landscaping is in.

The restaurant officially is opened on the 15th (a bit of work to do in 2 weeks!)

My only concern is according to akaram (the director) C blocks will be left unfinished until whenever. If you look at the site plan, C block is behind, at the side and in the front of the club house, restaurant, swimming pool etc.

To me not a nice thing to be looking at when you are having your garlic prawns and efes ! especially if and when it becomes a building site again to complete.

I too received the email they want another £100 for the maintenance. I bet in another 2 months the float will need topping up !!!!

gd427man


Joined: 05/08/2008
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
30/06/2009 12:35

NL2,

I'll be back on the 20th. (Going out on the 5th - 19th)

I certainly hope we have water by then.

Will take picies of course and post on my return.



Cheers.

Wine Man


Joined: 11/09/2008
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
30/06/2009 22:31

Ian,



we too are going 5th - 19th - where are you flying from? we go from Stansted.



Jenny has confirmed we haev water and electric in our apt. We are still waiting for the a/con to be fitted.



Have you paid your maintenance fee?



A bit dissapointed that the restaurant does not open until 15th - does anyone know if the bar is open prior to the 15th?



Regarding C block - I agree it will be a bit like drinking/eating in a war zone.

markcbm


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 115

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 01:13

Hi Ian and Karl



We are out for just 6 day's (9th till 15th july) to check on things and sort out maintenance money etc also beds and furniture etc,



We are also having worktop, tiles and doors changed in kitchen to look a bit more to our taste,



Be staying at the Ship Hotel while we sort these things out



Hopefully staying at cbm in september for two weeks



Ian i still have your mobile can i give you call so we can all meet up this time, be good to see you to Karl



Mark and Joy