Are you English or British

redtom


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:07

I am often asked by customs what is my nationality my reply is. I am an Englishman.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:10

You are not allowed to be English anymore, Welsh can be Welsh And Scots can be Scots but English fraid not.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:13

Says who ?

tonni


Joined: 07/12/2008
Posts: 178

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:14

BRITISH THRU N THRU.!!!!!!!!!! thankyou,

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:15

English, and I don't care who disagrees!

The comment about Scots and Welsh is true!

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:17

I am both English and British as I am both TC and Cypriot. English is to me one 'category' of British and TC one 'category' of Cypriot. It is for me not a case of either or.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:25

I'm bloody Lancastrian and damn proud of it!

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:32

clarets - English then mate!

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:35

I'm definitely NOT bl**dy English... ;) ... British ... yes..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 00:36

or is it Irish...... ??? Best to say European ;))..

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 01:37

Lancastrian first,English second,British third !Encompassing ALL of that is the fact that I WILL ALWAYS BE A CLARET !

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 05:03

Queen-Duke of Lancaster

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 06:08

londoner and always will be.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 07:01

I hail from Cheshire and I am very much ENGLISH..

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 07:58

My husband says he is English, as he has english heritage but I say I am British as I have multinational heritage.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 08:00

Scots Canadian parents born and bred in England.



English it is!

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 08:07

Scottish...................

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 08:27

Second class pearson in my country of birth !!

I am now not entitiled to the same beniffits as economic migrants

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 08:42

English . yes English



British may be



European NO NO I am ENGLISH

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:06

**British and proud of it (I think) well sometimes

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:23

English, will never change.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:25

Welsh..........

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:41

English, without question.

mikelapta



Joined: 20/11/2008
Posts: 2186

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:45

CYMRAEG.......conceived on the Great Orme !!!!!

WELSH..........and very proud to be

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 09:58

English certainly and proud to be best nation in the world............. Probably

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 10:06

English is my nationality of birth and having traced ancestry back to about 1750 on both sides of family I think that covers all bases.



Remember going to USA about 20 years ago, you could put Scottish or Welsh on the visa but not English had to be British or UK.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 10:11

English . And do i have problems with some telling me i cannot write English down re paper trails etc . I stick to my guns I am English .

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 10:29

Mike Lapta, Simbas and Jock. I think the question was "Are you English or British"

Stubs


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 641

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 11:54

Where does it say "English" on your passport?

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 12:06

Sorry , English not being my 1st language , i know you will forgive me

Regards , Simbas

fredred


Joined: 09/12/2007
Posts: 89

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 12:33

English without doubt, and always will be.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 12:48

Bit confused me. Born in London and lived here all my life. My parents are Irish and I have a british Passport. I love this country and love being a Londoner. (accent n'all)



Am I English as the place of my birth....am I British as my parents are from Ireland and I was born in England, or am I Irish. Can anyone sort this out.?



No silly replies are needed.

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 12:56

I would say definitely Irish.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 13:37

definitely english,but the powers to be say we have to call ourselves British!!

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 13:42

Turtle: "You are not allowed to be English anymore, Welsh can be Welsh And Scots can be Scots but English fraid not."



For the decent and proud English people - who have no doubts about their nationality - this may a good thing as it weeds out the undesirables and riff-raff who give England a bad name all over the world.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 13:45

I'm sticking to English. I was after all born in England.

stilluvithere



Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 765

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 13:53

definitely English, just about anyone can call themselves British

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:03

Err,...



Who were you cheering in the Olympics?



Great Britain!



Ireland was there as a foreign country, but Wales, Scotland or NI weren't. They were classed as 'British'.



If any of you say you are 'Irish', 'Welsh', Scotish',.... do you have an Irish, Welsh, Scottish or British passport?



You are either British or ROI (foreigners!)





Get over it!





p.s.tiggy, were your parents ROI or NI?



Rob

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:10

Rob. I wasn't cheering anyone in the Olympics - let alone those from Great Britain ))



Whatever next - A Great British Football Team - Never!!

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:15

Bill!



You old 'Blue Meanie!



So,.... if Sir Anthony Hopkins had won an Oscar,..



would it have been a Welsh Oscar, or British?





p.s. Where did his title 'Sir' come from? Is he proud of it?

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:16

definately English.



Msg 37. you are definately right.



Tiggy.

You are english of Irish desent.

martinev


Joined: 24/10/2008
Posts: 320

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:19

1. English

2. British

3. European



in that order

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:53

Dear RobnJo re msg 38



The soln to the Irish problem was to allow folk born on the island of Ireland to be Irish - obtain an Irish passport - if wanted - or be British - if born in N.Ireland or of British parentage or be BOTH... I have two passports..may be I might be Russian one day, too ;)



I can happily cheer for Ireland at Rugby, Northern Ireland at Football or Ireland or team GB at the Olympics.. ;)



I REALLY wish that they wouldn't call it GB as technically that does NOT include N.Ireland ... back to semantics again





Now *I'd* like to se a CYPRUS football team and a Cyprus person win Eurovision - preferably a TC scoring a winning goal at a world cup game against TR or GR or TC winning the "singing" cup....

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 14:58

Rob. No one should be allowed to get knighted unless they are English.



I bet that provokes a response ))

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 15:16

M&Ms'



Do you mean semantics or pedantics?



You may have your aspirations to be an itenerant world class person, but currently you are only internationally accepted as being of a certain nationality.



What's on your birth certificate?





Rob

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 15:26

all the m's - shame on you for not wanting your Birth country to win such a prestigious competition like Eurovision. )))))

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 15:54

Hi No.1 Doyen, re msg 46



I can remember the Loyalist "outrage" at Dana - from Londonderry / Derry singing and WINNING for Eire ;)... and the "threats" to Eddie Irvine as he drove for Eddie Jordan's F1 team and got a podium and the Irish flag was flown...:o



re msg 45



"Do you mean semantics or pedantics? " - very good ;)



I am accepted as Irish or British - you can ask any immigration officer I've "confused" - esp one's in former Soviet Countries.. If I'm in "trouble" in the UK.. I'm British and Irish if arrested in Dublin ..;)



My Birth certificate was issued in Belfast - but the Irish accpted it for my Irish passport - in the same way my Grandad was born in "Britain", but as we couldn't find his original BRITISH Birth certificate it had to be re-issued by the IRISH, as were he was born is now in Eire...;)



All clear .....? !

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:10

My Father was born in Ireland in the part that is now known by some as Northern Ireland. He and the family had to go to live in Mayo in Eire when 1 year old. Land was taken from them after being hounded out. He came to work in England at the age of 15 and passed away in 1999 my mother was born in Tipperary.



Confuses the issue even more.



Hope the old homestead is being looked after, as one day it may well be returned to the rightful owners!!!

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:16

Definitely English as I was born in London, England.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:29

Sounds like all you 'Oirish', from wherever, all still hanker after being citizens of Great Britain!



It's a great Craic being British!





Rob

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:39

Dear Tiggy, re msg re 48



It IS Northern Ireland and even the constitution of Eire accepts this for as long as the majority of folk there wish it..



If they ever vote to become part of Eire - I will respect that...



Can you ask for my G.Grandad's land back in county Longford, as well, please.. ?

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:44

I am most definately English. Born and bred in London.



British can mean anything....going back to the British Empire we once had!



Ask a Scot or welshman their Nationality, And you no what their answer will be.....it definately wont be British!



When it comes to Rugby in UK...Its Either , England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland, So why can we not call ourselves English?



I class this as prejudice and racists that we are not allowed to call ourselves English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



nunu1

Barrovians1


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:50

British by birth, English by the grace of god.



Bob.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:55

Having served in the BRITISH ARMED FORCES with all nationalities from the UK I consider myself British but my wife is from Scotland considers herself Scottish. We have just spent 16 happy years in Aberdeen and are looking forward to a new life here in TRNC.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 16:58

I have an EU/British passport but thats as far as it goes. I have no allegiance to my country of birth.

AJ

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:02

mmmm. Was you great grandfather and all before him born in Ireland. Where did he move too ? ( I feel you may be making it up to make out your lot has been hard done by as well!)



As for the majority.......when one side is forced from the land i n the past and were by far the majority, along with the youth forced abroad to find work whilst jobs for the boys and a bias to rat catchers (RC's) ruled the land no wonder real people were treated as 2nd class citizens.



When Ireland....Ireland was partitioned and the British kept the 6 counties which was then filled with the likes of Private Pike and other lunatic scots no wonder it all blew up. The day the majority of the electorate become nationalist will be the day that Paisley and his gang will move the goal posts again........when he said "NEVER" he meant it.





Ever seen the film "Captain Boycott"......sums it all up.



Enough of history lessons from both of us I think



regards,



P..

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 17:08

Of my four Grandparents one couple were English and the other a Scottish /Eire couple.



I consider myself English proudly part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. There is no word for UKish unfortunately.



In my opinion all inhabitants of the British Isles are british even those from the island of Ireland. As it therefore does not refer to a unitary nation state the word British is not an accurate description!



Harold

SulCon


Joined: 13/02/2008
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:16

Oh come on Harold, you can't be serious re message no 57!



The British Isles is a geographical term ( and rarely used these days) not a political one and the Republic of Ireland is certainly not British nor are its citizens! People in Northern Ireland can be either British or Irish and are entitled to either or both passport. However people from the Republic of Ireland are Irish and only hold Irish passports.



Regards,



Irish and proud!



Orla

david


Joined: 28/04/2007
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:24

ENGLISH ALWAYS

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:33

Hi Tiggy I think you take your fathers nationality. As my father was from Derry and I was born in Limerick I can have 2 passports. The Irish one is great accepted everywhere.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 18:39

English and British brings images of the National Front to mind !



Just glad i am neither.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:33

Sulcon, that is what you have to deal with....and he is a moderator!!



Lilli, bless ya.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:37

Hi Tiggy and Orla Me too Im very proud of it. Just wish this lot in cyprus can follow our example and get on with it the way Ireland did. God bless ye both xxx

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:39

Reference Message 54, being the Scottish half of decanddyl is married to an English/Brit (but he doesn@t know any better cos he is from Manchester!!).

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:40

Reference Message 54, being the Scottish half of decanddyl is married to an English/Brit (but he doesn@t know any better cos he is from Manchester!!).

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:40

british and proud to be/////////

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:54

Reference message 39 there is to be a GB team at 2012 Olympics, managed by Sir Alex Ferguson (Scot) assisted by Ryan Giggs (Welsh), coached by Jimmy Nichol and Denis Irwin(Irish) and all the players will be from England!

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 19:58

Reference message 39, there will be a GB team at the 2012 Olympics and just to make it fair the team will be managed by Sir Alex Ferguson(Scottish) assisted by Ryan Giggs(Welsh), coached by Denis Irwin (Irish) and Jimmy Nichol (Northern Irish) and the players will all come from England!

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 20:41

English through and through

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:00

Looked an easy question ...........................



Are you English or British



Why all the interlopers CAN YOU NOT READ



this thread is not for non british or english people



WHAT IS DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT ??

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:52

Dear Tiggy, re msg 56



Hmm, seems to be the day for folk doubting what I say / write.. G.Grandad was a sarg in the RIC and had 11 kids.. they had lived in what is now Eire WAY before the "planters"..



Me Ma's Dads' side originated from Huguenots.. and her Ma, can be traced back to the "Planted one's"



Ex-wife' sDad was from Limerick / Clare border - so you are SOoo right I don't need a history lesson I heard it from both "sides" .. ;)

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:54

hi mmmmmm you and me both. hard days then xxxx

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:56

re msg 57 Harold2555



I can only assume you posted the comment re *British* Isles to cause a riot amongst the Irish...



I think you will be buying a few Paddy's / Jameson's and Guinness... as a "penalty"..



That's a bit like me standing next to a Statue of Ataturk and reclaiming "Troy" for the Greeks..

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 21:58

Dear Nige, re msg 70



you need to chill out ;)

charlie55


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 22:12

the british isles consists of four countries england scotland ireland and wales all proud nations but in times of conflicts has come together as one united nation great briton it is the right of all british people to proud of there heritage as english scottish irish or welsh but today it more important with the number of immigrants (sorry if this sounds racist) demanding certain rights both religious and political that we remember that we are british and defend our britishness or it might not be the place it was

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 23:26

Hi Tiggy, Orla and Lilli,



I'm Irish too. Lucan, south Dublin. Have travelled the world on an Irish passport... no problems. As you say Lilli, accepted cordially everywhere (Irish Passport). My husband on the other hand travelled on a British passport and sometimes had questions asked whilst entering or leaving countries.



I believe the question was thrown open to the forum rather than only to the English or British hereon. This in reply to msg 70. Yes littlenige, I can read... in fact I read quite a lot into your continuously negative posts...



Aille

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
23/02/2009 23:48

Hello Frank,



I have Driven through Lucan many a time....heading out West to the wild frontier of Mayo! mind you that was before the bypass was built. Long drive up to Holyhead and usually a rough crossing. We let Ryanair take the strain these days, Leixlip, Enfieds and Maynooth all stage coach stops!



"Up the Southsiders"



Take no notice of the littlenige....not many people do.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 03:20

Dear Charlie55 re msg 75



"the british isles consists of four countries england scotland ireland and wales"



Who was your Geography teacher?



FIVE nations make up the "British Isles" .. FOUR make up the UK, THREE make up GB



I hope the irony of us discussing retaining "Britishness" on a Cyprus forum is not lost on us....

mrjim



Joined: 26/04/2008
Posts: 78

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 07:40

hi I am a newbie to this site and would like to say hello to everyone.

what a great thread to come in on

I have Irish parents from cork & donegal ,I was born & bred in London all my life and now been living in Ireland 5years and can say without doubt I am 100% a

Englishman

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 08:02

Well....



My comment in 57 was not designed to upset the Irish amongst our numbers so apologies to any offended.



My purpose was to show that the term British and even Great Britain is mis used as rather more plainly detailed by MM.



It is the justification for the use of the terms English Scotttish Welsh and Irish when people describe themselves rather than British.



It was when I was a nipper that this was drawn to my attention by of all things the International version of It's a knockout, Jeux sans Frontieres. The UK was being represented by a team from Northern Ireland who couldn't therefore where the normal GB vest. It stuck with me better than any geography lessons!



Harold2555

charlie55


Joined: 11/08/2008
Posts: 39

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 12:26

msg 78

no one mentioned the british isles south ireland is not a british country northern ireland is british so i cant understand why you would say only three countries in GB

MotoMoto


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 152

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 13:06

Come on being English these days is essentially a state of mind - many aspire to it, but you do not have to be born there to achieve it



We English do not need to bang on about being English - that is the need of people from 'smaller' nations who are inherently insecure



AS for Britain - greatest empire the world has ever known - nuff said. It was just run and organised by the roduct o the English public school system...

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 13:08

Dear Charlie55 re 78



you said :



"the british isles consists of four countries england scotland ireland and wales.. "



you forgot NORTHERN Ireland or left off the NORTHERN, if you meant N.I... very important - especially to the maj. of folk from the top right hand corner! ;)





GB *is* only three countries.. Eng, Scot and Wales



Look at your passport ( if you have a British one) - it says United Kingdom of GB and NI.. !!

SulCon


Joined: 13/02/2008
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 14:00

Charlie 55, Harold did mention the "British Isles", a term that you will no longer see used in any modern map or atlas. And for info there is no such country as "south ireland", it is the Republic of Ireland, officially known as "Ireland" as on our Irish passports. Just to be clear!



I agree with mmmm about the importance of distinguishing between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, especially when including the former in the UK.



Regards to Tiggi, Lilli & Aille.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
24/02/2009 23:49

Hello Mrjim, another 1st generation I bet. Welcome to the forum.



& regards to you Orlagh, lLilli, & Allie.....not forgetting Patricia (simbas) Our honorary colleen !!!



Roll on March 17th

Cruella


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 63

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 01:43

English - English - English



But why do we allow our country to be run by Jock Gordon Brown?



Cruella

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 08:28

Dear Cruella, re msg 86



you didn't ! *vote* for him ..his Party did.. ! Let's see what happens if the electorate get a say ;)

david


Joined: 28/04/2007
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 12:11

if you are british be british if your English be English its about choice something that is not allowed in the UK WITH LABOUR in power by the way i will always be ENGLISH

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:02

English is derived from England, one would think. But in fact the language name is found long before the country name. The latter first appears as Englaland around the year 1000, and means "the land of the Engle," that is, the Angles. The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes were the three Germanic tribes who emigrated from what is now Denmark and northern Germany and settled in England beginning about the fourth century a.d. Early on, the Angles enjoyed a rise to power that must have made them seem more important than the other two tribes, for all three tribes are indiscriminately referred to in early documents as Angles. they all spoke what would have been called *Anglisc, or "Anglish," as it were. By the earliest recorded Old English, this had changed to Englisc.Thus the record shows that the Germanic were speaking English long before they were aware they were living in England. YOU'RE ALL GERMAN!!!

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:15

if we were all to go back and look into the history.and what England had done.

perhaps not very proud of it all all....and one can say the same of a lot of country too.

i hold a British Passpot..

but rearly just most proud of ME.

my heart belongs to Scotland.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:46

I'm a lassie from Lancashire.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:53

There'll always be an England,

While there's a country lane.

Wherever there's a cottage small

Beside a field of grain

There'll always be an England

While there's a busy street.

Wherever there's a turning wheel

A million marching feet.

Red, white and blue

Freedom remains

These are the chains

Nothing can break.

There'll always be an England

And England shall be free

If England means as much to you

As England means to me..

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:14

No1.



Hear Hear

gillybean


Joined: 22/10/2007
Posts: 68

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:31

We're not Europeans, how can we be? Europe is miles away, over the sea

We're English from England, lets's all be proud. Stand up and be counted, shout it out loud !



Let' s tell Gordon Brown and Brussels too, we're proud of our heritage, not just red, white and blue.



Fly the flag of St.George, not the Union Jack



Let the world know ENGLAND is back !

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:50

gillybean. I'm standing now with my hand on my heart- singing Land of Hope and Glory!

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 21:19

gillybean: "We're not Europeans, how can we be? Europe is miles away, over the sea

We're English from England, lets's all be proud. Stand up and be counted, shout it out loud !"



Sorry to rain on your parade, but England in part of the United Kingdom and is part of Europe, geographically and politically. Go to America and most of the people there will consider you a European foreigner, no different from a Belgian or French citizen.

borodave


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 21:22

ENGLISH THROUGH AND THROUGH AND PROUD OF IT