Xenical

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 08:53

For those of us who don't enjoy dieting...me being a prime candidate try Xenical..



http://www.xenical.com/



The chemist in Catalkoy sells them..not cheap but worth the money... 173 lira



One with each main meal and hey presto the fat slips out...wicked

authentichoccie


Joined: 09/01/2008
Posts: 481

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 08:58

If i'd paid 173tl for some pills I would loose weight too!!!

Coz i wouldn't be able to afford to eat!!! LOL!!!

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:10

I know they are expensive but they do work...ordinary dieting doesn't and it makes one plain bloody miserable

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:13

Watch out for those side effects they can be very embarrasing , did'nt know you could buy them over the counter . When i used to run Weight Management Clinics you could only get them on px . Put it this way Dee , fry ups would be a thing of the past .

Good luck , Simbas

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:19

Simbas I havent suffered any real bad side effects and I still eat my cooked breakfast, just enjoy it more now...yes here over the counter and the other chemist further down also sells them..they said I could buy for 170 lira, I know expensive but I think worth every penny..been taking them for two weeks now and I am fine.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:25

Dear Dee, re msg 3/ 5



"ordinary dieting doesn't [work] and it makes one plain bloody miserable"



Are you SURE you haven't been trying the ordinary approach recently, then ?!



"I havent suffered any real bad side effects"



Do we have a facility to have a "vote" option on the forum ? ;)

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:29

Hi i totally agree i had them in uk under doctor supervision but was absolutley thrilled when i could buy over counter not expensve worth every lira and yes beware little accidents but once you know the tell tale signs its not a problem as im prone to weight gain just started new course 1 week now and waiting, the weight just drops off best thing ever but like any medication etc it has slight down falls always be prepare and if you go out always make sure the first thing you do is locate the toilet you can still eat normal food just remember when you fancy anything naughty i.e. that lovely treat of a fried breakfast just be prepared for extra loo time.



THEY ARE GREAT

simbas



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Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:31

Dee you must be a medical mystery . They are not supposed to work that way .You should have no side effects at all . If you are , then it is down to the fat content in your diet . Did you consult with a Doctor before you started. But having said all that it was 5yrs ago and i suppose they could have done more research and trials since

Regards , Simbas

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:32

Ladyjessic..best thing invented..enjoy your food in the knowledge you won't gain weight...truly wonderful...

Lilli



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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:32

hi Dee How are you. They a briniung out an over the counter version soon in UK calledAlli. Same sort of thing but a lot cheaper get people to bring some over for you. I think they have completed all the trials now.There was a feature in yesterdays Daily Mail about them. Good luck with them I have known people on them and they lost loads of weight.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:34

Msg 6 how I wish I could just flush you away...maybe you should get out more, walking is wonderful for constipation..and looking at your pikkie, your sickly grin suggests you have a severe problem..

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:38

Hi Lilli, I have been reading about Alli, its all orlistat which is the ingredient that makes you, how can I put this delicately..shite..oops sorry I cant lol..wonderful.

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:41

I am lucky because I can eat what I like without weight gain, I enjoy my food especially the "bad stuff" like fry-ups and big roast dinners etc!! I have often thought how I would cope with having to diet, and I have come to the conclusion that I would be bloody miserable!!



I am sure that Dee "knows" her body well, and would seek advice if she had any worries or became ill. Good luck with the diet Dee!!!

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:43

just first initial few weeks simba after that no prob but i suppose we are all built different and have different affects happen but i asure you i wouldnt change them and staying at home great, watch out every one a new me returning for the summer and to all that have or are using them knock em dead with our new curvacious figures cyprus wont know whats hit em.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 09:52

denizkisi how lucky you are and I hate you.. I used to be called Twiggy years ago but when I hit 55 I started to get middle aged spread and I hate it..



Enjoy your food always.

batterboy58



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Posts: 442

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 10:40

Just read the small print and in the 3rd week you shit your own weight and disappear altogether.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 10:42

batterboy how crude, lol

breezyboy


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Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 12:08

Very happy that it works for you DC4 but it doesnt work for everyone even under medical supervision. Dont want everyone getting their hopes up and failing.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 12:22

Breezyboy oh dear I am sorry to hear that..I wonder what the problem is.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:00

Dear Breezyboy re 18



May be the secret to Dee's "success" is keep to keep TALKING crap, as well ... ;)

batterboy58



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Posts: 442

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:06

It's coming out of both ends now

erolz


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Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:06

for info



http://www.drugs.com/xenical.html

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:07

you said it.....

breezyboy


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Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:12

DC4 doesnt matter now- went on a proper fat free diet and lost 4 stone in 4 months!

spangles


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Posts: 411

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:21

Dee did say the fat "Slips out". I also read a newspaper article about Alli and the reporter suffered terrible side effects - spare underwear a necessity.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:25

I'm not fat...



... I'm just short for my weight.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:26

My wife is a light eater. As soon as it gets light, she starts to eat

Hector


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Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:30

"The following side effects occur commonly with the use of Xenical. They are the natural effects of Xenical's fat-blocking action and are actually signs that the medication is working properly. These side effects are usually temporary and may lessen as you continue treatment with Xenical:

oily spotting in your undergarments;

oily or fatty stools;

orange or brown colored oil in your stool;

gas with discharge, an oily discharge;

loose stools, or an urgent need to go to the bathroom, inability to control bowel movements;

an increased number of bowel movements; or

stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, rectal pain.

Other side effects that may occur while taking Xenical include:

problems with your teeth or gums;

cold or flu symptoms;

headache, back pain; or

skin rash or itching.

Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is especially bothersome."

Sounds an absolute pleasure!

The-Wicks


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Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:37

Hector - "sounds an absolute pleasure" - doesn't it just!!

I realise I am probably very lucky that I can eat prettry much what I like and don't put on weight, although I think I'd think twice about using Zenecol if I did have a weight problem. The side-effects sound most unpleasant.



J

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 13:55

Hi Deecyprus

When I was in the Pharmacy in the UK you could get Xenical on prescription and it cost you £6.80 for the months supply, that's what the Doctors would only prescribe at a time, so here they charge 175ytl = £75 for how long one month or 3. That's a hell of a profit, it must be for 3 months would be glad to here,

smithy

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 14:13

It does also say that you can control the side effects eventually, knowing what to eat etc, If someone is unhappy about their weight and this works for them, then good luck to them. I bet that more people die from obesity related side effects than these diet pills!!

The-Wicks


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Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 14:17

denizkisi - a very good point, particularly in the light of the news yesterday that obesity in the UK has now reached epidemic proportions, combined with all the associated health problems.



J

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 14:46

Mess32

More bloody statistics from the Nanny state, not satisfied with telling us what we should eat, drink, say, think etc and how we should live our lives, they will be telling us how to die next.

All this hypocrisy whilst fattening themselves up in the trough of our taxes.

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 14:57

Lilli Message 10

Alli is Orlistat (drug name for Xenical) but a much lower strength (or at least the OTC version in the UK is). Would recommend any one wanting to try it to go seek medical advice as not given in Uk until patient can first prove they can lose 10lb using "will power" alone. The main aim to to re-train you to eat a sensible low fat diet not just carry on eating the same old rubbish and then rely on the capsules to clean it all out.

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:08

Smithy, the cost of the prescription doesn't reflect the actual cost of the drug itself. Whether it costs £5 per mths supply (in actual cost) or £50, the charge on NHS prescription would be the same!!

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:17

Denizkisi,

I am aware of the differences in the charge of a drug, as I am a Dispensing Chemist, as one Cancer drug could cost over £150 and is given on a prescription, I just wanted to know how many months you would get for the 170ytl.

But I have just rang Evren in Catalkoy and it cost 170ytl for 84 tabs. I also know what the Pharmacist pays from their Wholesaler for the drugs, so was interested to find out if they bought it from Turkey.

madmazz


Joined: 14/01/2009
Posts: 82

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:25

Am I right in thinking that if you are eating a very low fat/fat free meal you shouldn't take the tablet as it would be wasted?

denizkisi


Joined: 18/09/2008
Posts: 196

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:30

Message 36 - Smithy -



I just re-read what I wrote in my message 35 and it sounded a little pompous, I do apologise!!!



I have also just read madmazz's message. If that is correct, could you in theory make a mths supply last longer than a month?

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:40

Hi Denizkisi,

Never need to apologies to me, I'm fine

Yes you can make a months supply last a lot longer, if you have a day that you only lets say have a salad and chicken then don't take a tablet, why waste one when you don't have much fat intake then there wont be a lot of fat to come out (pardon the pun) I would think anyone would know if they have overdone the fatty foods, and don't be surprised as what comes out as it not a pretty sight, very slimy, hope no one is eating their dinner, but you get used to all this.

so the 84 Tabs in the box for 170ytl = 12 wks you could eke them out. Not sure here if they do a monthly box as for most of the people here its a lot to lay out at one go. I will find out when I pop to see my Pharmacist friend.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:43

If eating a fat free meal do not take a pill, I take two a day as I eat twice a day..so mine should last slightly longer than a month...

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:45

Bordermark if you can't think of anything original to say I would suggest silence or to quote someone else.



It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to open one's mouth and prove it...

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 15:47

Hi Dee

Why take any tabs if you eat a fat free meal, save them for when you do, or if you over indulge and eat out, as they cook with a lot of oil over here, also you wont have anything to pass through you, at that price take one every other day

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:45

Dee i have read all the comments and like you i am more than (prepared to put up with the oily squits as they so call it ) happy to take the tablets they work. I do not like salad but i love rice and pasta and good traditional foods but i have one comment to make not everyone unfortunatley can control there weight, other medical probs like under active thyroid and low metabolism hyreditory factors do not help i have seeked medical advise and xenical works for me like everything if it works go for it do it if not then find another alterative i have no objection to pay out 170 + lira, as if you lose the weight and it makes you feel good about yourself well i can see no problem with that.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:49

Smithy if you eat a fat free meal you do not take a tab....

Mindy



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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:49

Dee

Is that for 1 months supply 173 tl

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 16:51

Ladyjessic I too don't mind the mild side effects, i like salad but everywhere here it is covered in oil so I avoid it but like you I love rice and pasta..and a good cooked breakfast a couple of times a week sets me up for the day..I do not diet at all and have lost a stone in weight ....yippee I say ...keep taking the tabs..

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:16

Hi dee well done i only started mine a week ago but last time i took them which was quite few yrs ago i lost 6 stone and having been 15 and 1/2 stone i went down from size 24 to 12 admittingly i cannot give the tablets all the credit as i lost first two stone on my own but the tablets then helped me shift the stubborn weight. when you get down to a certain weight and no matter what you do you cant shift it but like one comment yes under medical advise you have to prove you can start to loose the weight first before they will let you take xenical mmmmmmmmmmm strange way the medical profesion work but hey lets go for it dee the thought to be of a satisfactory weight that suits us and makes us happy and feeling good about ourselves roll on the summer

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:19

Deecyprus thats what I said dont take one,

Mindy its 170ytl for 84 tabs so thats 12 weeks supply

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 17:24

no its not smithy, you take one with each meal that contains any amount of fat...I take two a day as I have two meals..but recommended is 3 a day if you eat 3 meals.



So 1 months supply...mine will last just over a month..may I ask which chemist you work at?

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 18:29

Hi dee something else to mention not only does it clense your body inside like a detox but it clenses the outside as well so what if you get a few spots its only the bad toxins way of getting out. Also just think we dont have to worry about that bad excrement stored inside the body as its like you say just flushed away so body totally clensed for 170 + lira cheaper than any health farm and more fun eat what you want, do what you want and be slim and when you have got to your goal stop taking them what more can one say gonna follow this with you dee see how much we both manage to loose good luck.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 18:31

I know it's slightly off thread and I apologise to dee in advance, but has anyone tried colonic irrigation?

alano


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Posts: 139

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 18:38

NO SPELLING MISTAKES.

piggy


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Posts: 132

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 18:45

I apologise in advance, but how much does it cost to have your cesspit emptied.

smithy


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Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/02/2009 18:47

Hi Deecyprus

Not working anymore gave up the pharmaceutical world and came to the TRNC nearly 5 years ago but sometimes I miss the work force and the company.

Getting back to the Tabs I have taken them but would still advise whatever they say to 1 per day, and it did the job, now its the gym and a lot of hard work, pus at £70 for just over a month is still a lot of money now.

But good luck and let us know how you get on

smithy

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
25/02/2009 19:25

Dee re 41



"Bordermark if you can't think of anything original to say I would suggest silence or to quote someone else.

It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to open one's mouth and prove it... "



Well you just proved it again: ))



1/ you like to "give it" ..and often involving third parties ( Trollop comment !?) .. but you can't take it ..! :P



2/ you should read and note your OWN words ( re Fools ) ... as they will apply when you ..read point 3 ..



3/ Enjoy your trip to over the Green line and be sure to climb the Debenhams Tower and look to the south for Minarets ..



What would you call someone who promises to apologise if they find one Mosque in the "south" ?! ... Especially when there's 101 of 'em ))))))))



Too funny..

billybob


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 02:33

Bloody ell the trnc must be full of over weight old mingers who don't smell to fresh.

fire starter


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 07:43

billybob

if the cap fits wear it.



dee

sounds like a good excuse to go shopping loosing all that weight!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 08:48

Bordermark I suppose reverse physcology is really all YOU could come up with..LOL ..quite sad really for a legend in his own living room!

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 10:43

Ladies......and gentlemen.Orlistat or Xenical has been a licensed slimming medication in the UK for years now.Side effects can be quie common,in my experience,and it only works in certain people.The cost is about £35/month in the UK.....if you had to pay for a private script! It can only be accessed on prescription in the UK and is used as an ADJUNCT for people who are already losing weight as part of a balanced programme,involving lifestyle issues and diet.

Jaybee


Joined: 11/11/2008
Posts: 228

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 10:51

I bought some from the chemist in Alsancak last month. 42 tablets I think for about 80ish lira. Took them for 2 weeks. I do eat fairly healthly anyway. Absolutely no side effects whatsoever. No signs I was taking them, if you know what I mean. Had fish and chips to see if that would kick start anything. Nothing. Weighed myself after 2 weeks. Put 2lb on.



Someone said maybe I had got "pirate ones".

clarets



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Posts: 752

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 10:56

Jaybee,I'm afraid they dont work in everyone....they probably were the real thing.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 11:47

Hi Dee, re msg 58



Thank you, as always, for dealing with my observations in the dignified way - we have come to expect..

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 11:55

BORDER I have found it is best to bring myself down to your level, that way communication is easier..now run along and bore someone else..

breezyboy


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Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 12:03

Clarets.

Has there ever been a study to see if this drug has any connection to rectal cancer?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 13:36

HI again, Dee re msg 63!



I see you've commented re Greenmans' link to the US info on Cyprus, and wondering when you'll "fess up" that the "crap" I posted re Mosques in the "south" is backed up in the report...



I've even highlighted it for you..



msg 2

http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/11490.asp



Is "I'm sorry, I was wrong" - and something you promised to tell us - so hard to say ?!

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 16:36

MMMM..the pills dohave one bad side effect.It has made her mouth bigger andher tongue longer .Perhaps she might stand on it and trip over head first into the toilet where the rest of her belongs...

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:02

Coachie what a small minded and imbecilic little man you are...at least I am not full of crap...something you cannot claim to be... God give me strength to deal with life's irritants...now go pour yourself another drink and try harder to insult me because as of yet you are failing spectacularly...

spider


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Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:09

tut,tut,...you will have the oldgirl on soon and the Naff off brigade............



just reading,and wonder if Exlax would do the job,1x3pr day.

or three everyother night..and stay at home everyother day..











spider

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:12

Think this tittle tattle is getting ridiculous now, thought this thread was about a slimming pill????????

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:19

Mindy I started this thread with the best of intentions...

smithy


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:20

Was just thinking that myself, stay on the thread guys, why argue over such petty things

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:22

smithy I do try so very hard

hattikins


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:48

Message 67



At least I'm not full of crap

The tablets work then !

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:55

hattikins they certainly do lol

smithy


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Message Posted:
26/02/2009 17:56

I know Dee keep up the good work, proud of you

ladyjessic


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
26/02/2009 23:47

Hi dee i back you up 100% we are seriously talking about slimming pills which certainly work and we are happy to air our finding so lets just ignore the sarky comments and all of us who want this tread to work i certainly am with you all the way and YES all you sarky people mmmmmm who ever you are i agree with dee go bore someone else we are being very serious here and your comments are well TOO PATHETIC FOR WORDS WISH WE COULD FLUSH YOU DOWN THE TOILET DEE GO GIRL WITH YOU ALL THE WAY

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
27/02/2009 10:25

Dear LadyJessic, re msg 76



I most humbly apologise for daring to post in "your" thread.. I realise, now, all your posts are serious ( Darts matches fracas) and I would never "dare" remind Dee, about her howlers re no Mosques in the south and her promise to apologise on such an important thread again..



I could point out that regular exercise and a healthy life-style might be more beneficial but that would spoil the "fun".

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
27/02/2009 10:45

I didnt have time to read all the postings, will get back to them tomorrow, may have been mentioned already.

Side effects can be REALLY embarrassing, my doctors wife tried them, while shopping one day, she said she felt something oooze down her leg, orange colored oil, that you cant get out of clothes, when i heard that I lost total interest in even trying it.

I also have family members that have tried them and they too had similiar experience.

If you eat fatty food side effects get worse.

Stick to a regular diet and exercise,quick weight loss will always come back, if Oprah ( with all her billions and private chefs and trainers)cant keep it off, what chance do we pion's have?

I am now trying the "dieters tea, tastes good, keeps you extremely regular and gets rid of some of the fatty oils.

I will be over in august and can put a few boxes in my baggage if anyone is interested. http://fashiondrv.stores.yahoo.net/dietherteabr4.html