sir alex

rowlo



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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 20:32

is he the best manager in the world or what ?????

dodger



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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 20:34

Better ask the scousers mate.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 20:35

no need to ?

joseph


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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:02

Hi Rowlo... are we following each other



As a scouser I have to agree, don't know about the world, but Europe and our premiership ... then probably.



Certainly he has won the Prem more than any other manager and as such I agree with your assessment...



But re Europe, and I have to admit this as an Evertonian, then Liverpool stand alone when their European achievements are comparted to other clubs , but that is comparing club achievemanets not managerial... that's why I agree.



Regards Joseph

kelvin


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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:34

It kills me to say it, but i have to agree, even thou he had nothing to do with the penaltys taken today, the players and keepers are on their own then..poor old spurs, as Billy Fury used to say, So near, yet so far away..



Chelsea fan..

rowlo



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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 21:43

maybe , just maybe ? he would be a good prime minister ?????????lol

fredred


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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 22:02

rowlo

We already have a Scotch Prime Minister, I dont think we would want another one.

ripoffrock


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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 22:40

Kelvin, you have a very good memory mate. How old were you when Billy Fury sang that? and yes Sir Alex is definately up there with the all time greats.

dodger



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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 22:53

Fred,

Scotch is a drink.Dont upset Jock or he will turn green,lol

andysue


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Message Posted:
01/03/2009 23:01

hes the greatest of the modern era ( premiership years ) you cant compare with decades before because only a select few clubs had any money. hes seen of liverpools dominance in the 80s chelsea and abramovic and he will see of city with even more to spend than chelsea, hes the greatest and you know what hes a gent , in our living room is a framed picture of the great man holding my daughter when she was six months old. .

andy

jock1



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 07:28

dodger, well spotted. lol..........

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 07:49

Rowlo is he the best manager in the world or what ????? mess 1

then you answer your own question in mess 3. Grow up you silly person !! You and andy?sue would make a wondefull duet.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
02/03/2009 09:10

"It's a funny olde game" as the famous Jim Reeves used to say.



Watch out you do not swallow your trumpet rowlo !!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 09:42

Got to agree Rowlo, Fergies the best without doubt.

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 10:15

Redtom mess 12.Chin up mate,lol

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 10:38

Spot on Dodger I dont know why i responded to the wind up merchant. Typical Mancs.

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 10:44

Andy in our living room is a framed picture of the great man holding my daughter when she was six months old.I bet your Daughter is still having nightmares. We used to tell our kids not to talk to strangers. And this Man is a strange one.

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 14:45

Tiggy mess 13 "Jim Reeves" lol

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 14:55

Dodger.....gets em every time.... "Tiggy don't you mean "Jimmy Greaves" Love it.





I have nothing against Man Ure whatsoever.

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 15:47

Tig,

Certainly got me,lol

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 17:48

redtom re mess 17, if thats the best you scouse bin dippers can come up with to have a go at us man utd fans than dont bother ! crawl back in your kennal



andy

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:53

Pleasdont get personal ! Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. By the way Thicko Kennal is spelt kennel

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 18:58

Redtom,

"pleasdont" come on mate.

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:42

Sorry dodger , Missed the space bar ! Should have read Please Don"t

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:50

Like to see him go to Derby & win them the Premiership ...

Then to Notts Forest & win them the Premiership & back to back European Cups ... Cloughie did & they are both in similar positions now as to what they were when he took the reins ...

Or to Blackburn & win it for them again ... "King Kenny" did after winning it for Liverpool ... Ok, ok, was the old 1st division ...

All won in less time it took Sir Alex to win his 1st trophy for M. U.

May as well give it to M.U. every season, not a level playing field any more ... The rich get richer & the poor struggle ... The greatest manager ???????

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 19:54

harita

didnt jack walker flaunt is millions when blackburn were the one season wonders

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:03

Q. how much as rafa the rotator spent in five years at liverpool? redtom says sir alex is a strange man? strange how they keep winning the big prizes init?

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:08

Quite right ... Then the big clubs came in & most of the players moved on for up to ten times what was paid ... 3.3m Shearer -15m to Newcastle ... 600k Le Saux -6m back to Chelsea .. 3.3m Shearer -15m to Newcastle ...

Couldn't win it again, how can you replace those players ..

One season wonders ??? What is it going to cost City

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:08

andy

even small prizes to mate. greedy that man united mate.

dodger not forgot about the hull game still asking mate.

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:13

your spot on clay "even the small prizes" but the great man gave spurs a chance by playing only half a team, its just that the mighty man utd are too good for the rest LOL..



andy

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:20

AndySue et al



This post was making pleasant reading as different fans air support for their teams and then you spoil it all with such puerile and offensive remarks... Why...

It's just a game.



These kind of remarks bring your team, your city and our forum into disrepute and I am willing to bet anything you like Sir Alec does not agree with them... or Rooney for that matter?



Keep it pleasant, please



Regards Joseph

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:32

Hi Harita;



I am most definately not a Man U fan... Everton... for me with a shade of respect for Liverpool F.C. I mean when you have three kids and two are blues and the other a red, what can you do



You have to admit though you can't accuse Fergie of buying the prem in the early days, just the opposite after relegation, he was forced to put his trust in his young players and thank Heavens he did; without those kids we would not have had an England team to speak of: Beckham, Butt, Scholes, the Nevilles etc and that without mentioning my personal favourite Giggs (Welsh)



I wonder that is todays problem with Prem managers... taking young lads and build/coach a team or are they expected to buy one?

For me that is Liverpools problem, like Man U in that England team I mention above they supplied Owen,Fowler and McManaman with Gerard and Carragher coming through... since then ... no one?



On that basis who are todays best managers or r they accountants now



Regards Joseph

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:35

joseph

wasnt it the great bill shankly who said its more then a game and he was right its a religion for some of us.

m.u.f.c.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:38

good post joseph / msg32,

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:43

Hi Clayton...



He also said there were only two teams worth supporting...

Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves



So should I take it you agree then



Regards Joseph

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:44

one season wonders

so who s faults that greedy blackburn for selling them.i hope city keep spending makes them a bigger laughing stock.even city fans are getting embarassed

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:46

Hi joseph

I don't think I accused anyone of buying the title .. Don't think you can buy it ...

But when you have the money M.U. can generate ... It helps if only 1 or 2

20-30k players a season ..

What about Pickering, Newton & England they would keep Blackburn solvent for a couple of seasons ..

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:46

When I was a kid in early 60's one of my favourite players was Jim Baxter...



Anyone remember him and what became of Jim, he was a bit special?



At one time Everton were interested in signing him and I was over the moon...

Then he goes and signs for Sunderland... I think?



Regards Joseph

rowlo



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:47

redtom msg 12 , how is msg 3 answering msg1 im answering msg 2 ??? anyway bet you wish you still had some jocks in your team eh , youve won nought since they left ,lollllllll

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:48

hi joseph

probaly right if you come from liverpool.or maybe tranmere

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:52

Apologies Harita, must have misread your meaning



I still wonder what would happen though if all the premiership clubs had to PRODUCE a team in the strict meaning of the word, as Fergie/Shankly did twenty years ago?



One thought... I think we would get back to having a much better England team

and a lot more of our youngsters would be given a chance at club level

What do you think?



Regards Joseph

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 20:57

Hi clayton

How can clubs compete with the great M.U. ... When O.T. has 75,000 inside, it constitutes 70% of the population of Blackburn ... 50% of which are Asian & probably support M.U. .. Get a life Clayton, selling players is the only way the smaller clubs can exist .. Not greed ..

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:03

Re



"I still wonder what would happen though if all the premiership clubs had to PRODUCE a team in the strict meaning of the word, as Fergie/Shankly did twenty years ago" Should have placed a + after 20 yrs



And we must not forget Cloughie?



The best England manager the fans never had... or the F.A. didn't want



Regards Joseph

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:06

It's not all that long ago, when a club could only field 3 foreign players ..

I was at the match when it was raised to 4 .. Who was that team I ask you buffs ..

Maybe if those days were brought back or "cap" the money a team could pay out in wages .. Stopped Wigan sweeping the board in rugby league ..

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:06

hi harita

why would people from blackburn support utd.and regarding asian people there money is as good as anybody,s.

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:09

hi joseph

agree with you cloughie should have been the england manager

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:14

Blackburn is far nearer to Manchester than Essex, South Wales & Northern Ireland .. Fans that were at O.T. the last time I was there ... By the way it was a "freebie"

joseph


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:17

Harita... spot on...



I must admit to being a Wigan RLFC supporter but I can honestly say as an outsider,who came to respect the sport late on, that the viciuosness and anti Wigan feeling at that time was unbelievable. I suppose the more success you have the more it generates envy.



Interestingly... after England defeat to Ireland last Saturday, ex eng. captain Will Carling said on interview that the RU enforcement of the salary cap was destroying Union in England. Apparently, something I ddn't know, it is only

England that has... and enforces a salary cap.



Too late for football I suppose to turn the clock bac ;-)



Regards Joseph

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:17

Oh clayton ... The're not Blackburners or their dads weren't

rowlo



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:23

harita, man utd , liverpool , arsenal , chelsea theyre global commodities ,people all over the world want to see them play , they are the muhamid ali of football , but blackburn , come on they got lucky and will dissapear into the championship next season ,look at leeds , southampton , notts forrest ,all bigger teams than blackburn ???????????

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:31

harita

you always talk about utd fans.why dont you do a search on howmany season ticket holders come from the manc area.i think you will find it is about 82 percent.not bad for a club.i have also been to blackburns ground you must of heard all those different utd accents singing that song.the only time you fill the ground is when were here

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:39

Harita,

What about the plane loads of Scandanavians that go to Anfield.Its not just United that have fans from all over europe,

Paul.

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:39

rowlo ... What have I said that has made you spit your dummy out ..

Read post 42 .. I said Blackburn is a small club .. M.U. need these small clubs to play in order to win all the trophies or would you rather watch matches on TV played at 2.00am in the morning from Japan, China, Brazil etc ..

BTW why do you prefer M.U. to Hibs or Hearts .. Apologise if you're not M.U. & just stating a point..

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:48

Hi again clayton

Think you will find that 78% of M.U. fans don't live in Manchester ..

City have a bigger %age of fans that live in Manchester ..

Talking of songs ot O.T. "Stand up if you're from the north" was being sung by the Rovers supporters ..

Dodger who has rattled your chain ??

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 21:57

hi harita

you will find you are wrong.if you ask any city fan from manc not stockport if there,s more utd fans inmanc then city fans and holds is hands up and tells the truth he will say utd fans.city,s average gate is about 38,000.

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:02

Harita,

Loose as a goose mate just stating a fact,

Paul.

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:08

Last post .. clayton ..

We are talking %ages ... 19000 out of 38000 is 50% ..

19000 out of 76000 is 25% .. Most of the season ticket holders at O.T. do not live in Manchester .. Season tickets I am led to believe are as rare as "Rocking horse sh1t" .. Passed down from father to son

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:08

dodger

dont no if you seen the message mate but still looking for a ticket for the hull game for you.

clayton

skybluesam


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:16

Jimmy Hill's record at Coventry took some beating, taking them all the way to the first division from the depths of the fourth before resigning to become a TV Pundit. He was also an innovator who was ahead of his time.

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:16

Thats fine dodger ... Hope Hull stay up & three of the bigger clubs go down .. They can generate more money than the small clubs, hence get promotion back to the Premiership quicker ..

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:22

harita

we get 19000 at some reserve matches.add both manc supporters together that makes 38000 .mancs must be the worst supporters in england then.take a trip round the pubs around manchester when utd are playing away .see how many utd fans are in there who have not got tickets to go.unless you think they travel from london ,northern ireland and such to sit in the pubs in manc.mind you suppose the asians could travel from blackburn.

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:26

Open the gates & you get 20,000 to watch them change a "flood light" bulb..

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:29

20000 mancs or cockneys

harita


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:32

clayton .. You said it .. Forgot to add just to say they had seen the inside of the "Theatre of dreams" ... Good night

clayton


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:36

harita

enjoyed the crack..got to go now train leaving for essex.lol

clayton m.u.f.c.

dodger



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:45

Clayton,

Cheers pal much appreciated,

Paul.

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:47

just been listening a football phone in on bbc radio mersyside , seems liverpool fans dont hate us anymore judging by how many people were ringing in praising us( man utd) funny old game init!



andy

rowlo



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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 22:53

aint it just , lol

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:02

Unlike Man U fans .Liverpool fans appreciate football . Although it hurts to say it Man u are a decent side who ride there luck : But to say the mad Jock is the best manager is a load of Toss .

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:05

redtom on a serious note - what do you think of rafa benitez? do you think hes better than the great man fergi?

andysue


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:17

who sang the song "silence is golden"?

redtom


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Message Posted:
02/03/2009 23:54

The Tremoloes sang it. a Liverpool based band . what else do you want to know ?

kenny b


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Message Posted:
03/03/2009 01:25

Redtom

'What else do we want to know'?

Do you know that Shankley,Busby,Clough and Ferguson will probably go down in history as the greatest managers of all time.The majority of fans from which ever club will more than likely agree with those 4 from reading your recent postings something tells me you have little knowledge of the game and its history.

I suppose if you were asked to name your top 4 managers of all time your reply would probably read Martin Jol,Avram Grant,John Barnes and Tony Adams .

Kenny b

redtom


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Message Posted:
03/03/2009 01:37

kenny b Shankley has nothing in common with the other three you mention. Busby Clough and Fergie now they did have something in common. they could all have been standins for Rudolf . all bulbass red nosed bastas.

andysue


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Message Posted:
03/03/2009 18:20

now now redtom dont get nasty, just coz your teams a bag of shit!

andysue


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Message Posted:
03/03/2009 19:27

that little boy who looks like a girl ( think is name is torres) isnt playing to night because hes got a sore ankel " didums" well the mighty red scouse machine can allways call on en-gog . babel and kunt (sorry i mean kyut) i bet the great man is shitting himself LOL

andysue


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Message Posted:
03/03/2009 22:57

where is our mate redtom tonight? ah hes watching his beloved liverfools trying their annual feat to claim the fourth champions league spot!

rowlo



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Message Posted:
11/03/2009 23:43

hows about that then ?

newlad



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Message Posted:
12/03/2009 00:02

Thought this thread was about Sir Alex guys,

Paul.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
12/03/2009 00:10

Yeah.....so stick to the thread about the old soak.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 20:42

what a comeback , and only half a team , always going to be a hard game today , but they were brill in the end /////////////////

rowlo



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 20:44

forgot to add , BACK TO THE TOP , hehehe,

clayton


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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 20:51

great game of football,its a shame there was a loser.but i am glad there was.wish danny welbeck would of scored he lives round the corner from us.

m.u.f.c

dodger



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 21:05

This was always going to be a hard game and "squeaky bums" where evident.Great winner,

Paul.

kavenkoy


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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 21:37

just got back ,tell you what guys ....squeaky bum wasnt init .



we were poor but showed some bottle ,enough to win title ?perhaps ,but them liverpool got the luck they say you need last night .



dont rule out the rent boys with utd to play aresenal ,liverpool and chelsea the same ermmmmmmmmmm what odds would you get on that for a wenger comeback ?



kav

rowlo



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 22:12

me thinks , its done and dusted now ????

dodger



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 22:19

Me thought that a month ago........

rowlo



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 22:24

my bottle crashed a wee bit , when we got beat by fulham , but im glad that games out the way ,

dodger



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 22:30

Rowlo,

We really need defenders back.Starting with Gary Neville in the centre of defence,was in my opinion a mistake today.Not a big oshea fan but he is better suited to that position then Neville is plus he is taller.Vidic and Ferdinand where really missed today,

Paul.

rowlo



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Message Posted:
05/04/2009 22:36

were back on top now paul thats the main thing , i was sweating for a while , long live kktc and mufc /////////////

rowlo



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Message Posted:
15/04/2009 22:07

looking good already , fingers and everything else crossed////////

rowlo



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Message Posted:
15/04/2009 23:44

well , is he , gunners next //////////

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/04/2009 23:45

Fantastic result for ManUtd. Bring on the Gunners!

rowlo



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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 11:36

hes the best ////////////

keithr


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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 22:24

I agree. My dad ran several of his tractors,really reliable they were too.

CyprusChill


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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 22:50

I agree hes got a bigger purple nose than any one else and a striker with lots of ability and a very strange looking head and a defender with a mr frog grimace. Facinating team to watch, its just like going to the circus to see the weird people.

rocky


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Message Posted:
17/05/2009 23:12

well they did not do the gunners did they, I hardly think Alex should be called a sir his chewing gum antics are not becoming of a nobleman.