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segmen

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 16:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 62 in Discussion |
| I know a couple whom faced to this recently. What would you do if your son walks in with his b/f and says that to you? Only serious comments please. Mum and dad are totally devestated and seeking help. Thank you |
cronos

Joined: 26/10/2008 Posts: 2093
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 16:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 62 in Discussion |
| I take it you mean Bisexual? If they really love their son then they will accept it and continue to love him regardless. If they can't...then it says a lot more about them than it does about him. |
segmen

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 62 in Discussion |
| Yes my apologies....its ment to be bisexual... Yes infact they love their son regardless but because we live in a such a small community they are worrying that "what would other people say?" Do you think that he was born with it? Or did they give him to much freedom to explore all? Or do you think he is just a curious? Thank you |
hattikins

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 62 in Discussion |
| Do you think he was born with it ? Bisexuality is not a disease or handicap, it is part of this young mans makeup. His sexuality is his business and that is what his parents should say to others who may pass comment, if they love their son and continue to support him then it does not matter what small minded people may think or say about it. |
yorkie58

Joined: 16/09/2008 Posts: 245
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 62 in Discussion |
| What does it matter "Do you think that he was born with it? Or did they give him to much freedom to explore all? Or do you think he is just a curious?" Even if you knew it wouldn't change a thing. it is hard for the parents to get their heads around it especially if it came as a bolt out of the blue. It happened to me and came as a big shock. Tell your friends there is no shame and to stand up and be proud of their son it doesn't matter one bit what other people may or may not say. |
fire starter

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 62 in Discussion |
| we have two sons and if either came in and said the same thing i guess we would probably laugh. but we wouldn't love them any less. everyone to their own. we have gay friends and we don't have a problem with it, its his choice they should just accept it. i think there are lots of people in cyprus who are possibly gay but are afraid to say so. he needs comending for his bravery. |
kellybelly

Joined: 08/03/2009 Posts: 263
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 62 in Discussion |
| Right from an early age i have always said to my three children,hey if any of you ever want to tell me you are WHATEVER,no problem. firstly i don't think you choose your sexual preference,it just happens. I would not like any of my children to feel ashamed in any way of there preference.I think any parent should respect their offspring's preference.Mum and dad should get a life and accept this totally. I don't buy into a religious views about sexuality because i am proud to be an atheist.In Fact i despise religion it causes to many problems Regards Pete. |
denizkisi

Joined: 18/09/2008 Posts: 196
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 62 in Discussion |
| Wouldn't worry me at all. The parents should should be grateful: a) that they have a son b) that he is healthy c) he respects them enough to tell them anything at all!!!! |
pinkchilli

Joined: 30/11/2008 Posts: 689
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 62 in Discussion |
| I read in the book below, "Why men don't listen and women can't read maps" that your sexual preference(s) are established 6-weeks after conception. Also, if you have gay/bisexual relatives, there is a higher probability that you will be gay/bisexual. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/reader/0752846191/ref=sib_dp_ptu#reader-page Take a look at the web site, also, look through the topics. Click "next page" Fascinating. |
Lemtich


Joined: 15/02/2007 Posts: 1487
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 62 in Discussion |
| When I was a nipper I thought some of the girls I knew were tri sexual! Try anything! Lem |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 62 in Discussion |
| Msg 8 Denisksi I totally agree. I have never had to face it with my children but there could be a time when on of my grandsons could be. My love for him will never change. xx |
pinkchilli

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 17:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 62 in Discussion |
| What would you do if your current partner/wife/husband came home and told you they were bisexual? Obviously, if they are already and you know, this will not be a great shock. I'm trying NOT to imagine Guido arriving at the restaurant with his new best friend, Giovanni! LOL. "It's alright Lilli darling, Gio is just helping me with the filling on my new tart". |
kelvin

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 18:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 62 in Discussion |
| i have a friend who's bisexual.. If he cant get it for nothing, he buys it!! |
fire starter

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 18:13 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 62 in Discussion |
| there was a family in the street where we use to live. the womans husband ran off and left her for another man. it was terrible for her and the two kids. they were all devastated, everyone did their best to help, but the poor woman just went to bits. i think the local gp put her on medication in the end. |
karakum5c


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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 18:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 62 in Discussion |
| A guy i used to work with wife came home one day and told him she was a lesbian and her girlfriend was coming to stay and before anyone gets to excited no she kicked him out first. Now thats what i call a kick in the teeth for any guy. |
billybuck

Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 27
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 18:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 62 in Discussion |
| He should have said,mum,dad,i am dying of cancer,when they fell to the floor,only joking,i am only bisexual. That would have put it into perspective |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 19:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 62 in Discussion |
| The parents of this boy should be proud of him for being man enough to tell them of his feelings. Some would hide it and then the parents may have found out via a third party which would have been a terrible situation. If they love their son they should accept him for what he Is. It isn't as though he's dying or is a weirdo - he's just a normal guy with different feelings than the majority. A friend of mine has a daughter who is gay. You wouldn't know if she were standing next to you. She is in a relationship with a partner and they have a beautiful home and fantastic jobs. They are wonderful girls and have the love and support of their parents. In fact both sets of parents meet quite regularly and have even holidayed together. I hope this boys parents find the strength to tell their son they love him because it will give him strength also. |
batterboy58


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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 20:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 62 in Discussion |
| Post deleted for Racist remark. |
MsGarnet

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 21:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 62 in Discussion |
| To put what neighbours or strangers think before the wellbeing of one's offspring is something I can't understand. We are all going to be talked about, either by a friend or stranger, for the rest of our lives, sometimes in a derogatory sense, sometimes in a kindly way, whichever it is, there is NOTHING on this planet any of us can do to stop others discussing us. I believe homosexuality is nature NOT nurture. What someone does in private is their business. A person is not defined by their gender, size, provenance, sexual orientation, colour or anything else BUT their heart mind and soul. Anyone who thinks otherwise, should look inside themselves and ask themselves - why? To those who allow a religious tome to dictate inform or instruct how they think behave and feel, I would suggest from hereon in, they learn to think for themselves instead. |
DutchCrusader


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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 21:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 62 in Discussion |
| Re msg 1 : The boy must pray more (says the loving Catholic church). He may get "cured" (not) or he may get pregnant (not). What a terrible problem for him and the parents (not). PS. There must be board members who can come up with even worse problems (not). |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 14/03/2009 22:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 62 in Discussion |
| Q. What is the difference between a heterosexual man and a bisexual man? A. About 6 pints of lager! |
Macha

Joined: 18/01/2009 Posts: 650
Message Posted: 14/03/2009 23:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 62 in Discussion |
| If my son told me he was gay my only concern would be that he wouldn't suffer discrimination through his life from bigots. Don't care a jot about no grandkids to besot me or a having a son-in-law married to my son. Either way I'd love him all the more for telling me. |
SaraP

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 00:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 62 in Discussion |
| Seaman..small community..must be over here! Do you know these people? No harm done..one up the b-m...lol..up to the individual! Does not make them a bad person at all! Anyone seen Captain Pugwash lately? |
Hippo

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 06:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 62 in Discussion |
| I think now you can get an operation for it. And while we on about this topic . What is this gay word that has slipped into the vocabulary, its homosexual or are people afraid of being called that? Gay means happy n |
TRNCVaughan

Joined: 27/04/2008 Posts: 4578
Message Posted: 15/03/2009 10:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 62 in Discussion |
| Being bisexual implies that he will have more than one partner from time to time or even at the same time, sometimes a woman sometimes a man. When he settles down will he have to choose one of them to the exclusion of the other? If not, why not? A heterosexual person is expected to restrict him/herself to sexual relations with one partner, as is, in theory, a homosexual person. Of course in our PC world gays and bi's are given dispensation from normal morals. If my son said he was bisexual and my wife and I are supposed to accept that, why wouldn't my wife accept me saying I had decided I was not monogamous and wanted more than one partner? |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 12:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 62 in Discussion |
| TRNCVaughan, from what I see of the heterosexual world theres not much in the line of morals there either! Hippo, the usage of the word gay for homosexuals came from an acronym of as Good As You! |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 12:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf Simer Are you saying that gay (and bisexual) people are inferior to 'straight' people? |
karakum5c


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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 13:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 62 in Discussion |
| There is nothing wrong about two women snogging |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 13:09 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 62 in Discussion |
| I have to say I am in agreement about all things sexual being 'in your face' all the time in the media. I find it embarrasing to see two people of any sexual orientation 'snogging' on mainstream television. As for gay rights, gay people did not ask to be born gay (it is not a lifestyle 'choice') so have the right to be treated equally just like anyone else who was born 'different'. You said in your earlier posting 'use the right tag' then added 'Queer', what tag would you use for someone born blind, or deaf, or disabled? What is 'Queer' about being a homosexual? |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 13:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 62 in Discussion |
| Karakum5c, why is this acceptable and not 2 blokes. neither is stereotypical 'normal'? |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 13:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 62 in Discussion |
| Its a free form of birth control! Good job that gays exist or the world would be more overpopulated than it already is. One thing I always liked about Northern Cyprus is that everyone was accepted equally no matter what their lifestyle. Shame if this has to change because of bigoted narrow-minded people. |
Tiggy

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 13:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 62 in Discussion |
| Live and let live. Is it is allowed in the Royal Navy ? |
Macha

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 17:39 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 62 in Discussion |
| alf simer: "We here a lot about '' Gay rights '' what about the rights of the rest of us to live life without seeing 2 blokes snoging of eastenders or 2 women at it on holloaks and emerdale." Well, you could try substituting TV soap operas for something a little more educational and mind-broadening for starters... |
Tiggy

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Message Posted: 15/03/2009 19:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf, looks like macha is trying to solicit you. (the dirty dog) I suppose once you have been in the navy it is hard to drop the habit. wonder if the misses knows he is bi. not that I condem it. |
clarets


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 12:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 62 in Discussion |
| Msg 28....Paranoid....dont think Alf is saying that at all. What he says is happening and the Stalinist Beaurocrats in Westminster are now making it compulsory to teach VERY young children about it. This IS NOT A SUBJECT that should be touched upon until these young people have a CLEAR idea about sexuality.The PC MORONS of the far left are SO WRONG about all of this! My 12 year old daughter came home from school,only the other day to hit me with the revelation that one of the 12 year old boys is Bisexual. I have seldom heard something as sickening as that.......the concept of sexuality at 12 should be anathema,but the concept of Bisexuality should not even enter their level of consciousness at that age. Such conceptualisation may indeed do massive harm, in that it may set them up for grooming and worse! |
The-Wicks

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 12:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 62 in Discussion |
| clarets, message 39. A truer word was never spoken. I find it saddening, to say the least, that young children are being bombarded with information that, in my opinion, only serves to confuse. I read recently that children as young as 5 are being taught sex education in schools. I dread to think what the long-term effect of this may be. As you say, set them up for grooming and worse!! Regards J |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 14:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 62 in Discussion |
| I think the intention is to try to give them understanding and try to prevent them from becoming bigoted like the majority of their parents are! |
Macha

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 16:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 62 in Discussion |
| Dusterbrucer, Precisely! |
britvic


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 16:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 62 in Discussion |
| Do you love your child any less, because they are Gay, Bisexual? They are still your child regardless, as long as they are happy and healthy, a parent couldn't ask for more really. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 16:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 62 in Discussion |
| Exactly Nige. It's unconditional. |
britvic


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 16:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf, Being a sexual predator is far removed from being Homosexual, Bisexual or even Heterosexual for that matter! |
britvic


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 16:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 62 in Discussion |
| ................Nige?......... |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 17:30 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf Simer As usual bigoted unresearched bullshit! 96% of sexual activity with children is commited by trusted 'straight' relatives and family members, i.e. fathers/brothers/uncles |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 17:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf Simer, you are 20 years out of date. The majority of sexually transmitted disease including HIV is now spread by 'straight' men and women, and drug users! |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 17:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alf Simer You are one huge bigot! Do you know the reason that many gay men try to hide their homosexuality under the cloak of a normal marriage? Because bigoted people like you make them so frightened that they are different that they feel they have to conform and try to live a 'normal' life. The fact that it messes their brains up is irrelevant to people like you as long as they 'appear' to be normal. But eventually true feelings come out, hence they start to mess about with other men, the wives find out and think they are perverted. What is perverted is that a bigited society makes them try to live a false life in the first place. Look among the Yahoo groups, there are thousands dedicated to married men who were forced into it by a bigoted ununderstanding 'normal' society and need an outlet for the sake of their sanity. |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 18:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 62 in Discussion |
| Gay establishments promote the message of protected sex to the extent of giving out free condoms. If the heterosexual community is as responsible in promoting safer sex, then why are there so many teenage pregnancies? In calling you a bigot, alf simer, I am not reverting to name calling, I am telling the truth! |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 18:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 62 in Discussion |
| Alt Simer You have listed a number of medical conditions that are passed on by indulging in anal sex, and I have to agree that you are probably quite correct. However, it is my understanding that many heterosexual couples indulge in this activity as well as gay/bisexual men. Do you get my point? Or are you saying that it is only gay/bisexual men who pass on these diseases? Also, it was you that started the name calling (Mssg 27) |
Dusterbruce

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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 18:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 62 in Discussion |
| Many bisexual/gay men may be predatory, but not against children. |
clarets


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 22:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 62 in Discussion |
| Dusterbruce msg 52....are the product of such a union? That is THE biggest load of merd I have heard in many a year ! utter nonsense.....where did you get that info ? Heterophobics Anonymous? |
clarets


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 22:26 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 62 in Discussion |
| Msg 61 Again....a total load of fanciful unsubstantiated bullsh****. |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 22:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 62 in Discussion |
| I have worked with gay men most of my working life within the airlines and to be totally be really honest i could not worked with better people.I love them to bits all they gay people i know who had a relationship stayed in that relitionship and thats more than most heros do.They are born that way and seek out thier own. I wish them well they wont rape a woman or hurt any woman. please dont condone/ nige im sorry open your mind xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
clarets


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Message Posted: 16/03/2009 23:01 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 62 in Discussion |
| Lilli.....most women dont feel threatened by gay men(as you put it) and the reason for that is not rocket science!Quite a lot of heterosexual men do however fins overt gay behaviour offensive and possibly threatening,purely because of its overt nature,and its implications.I can certainly assure you that gay people are not saints any more than the rest of us............I thought this was about Bisexuals anyway! |
croft


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Message Posted: 17/03/2009 03:18 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 62 in Discussion |
| I'm only a newbee here but it seems to me that at the start of this thread Segmen was asking for advice about 'devastated' mum and dad. Whatever the cause, I would think that none of us would like to think of our parents feeling 'devastated'. The question was about their turmoil, not the rights or wrongs of sexual orientation. Segmen: I don't know the answer to your question, but knowing how most families are, there will be a reconciliation. My best guess is that the parents will go from shocked, to introspective, to accepting, to loving. |
clarets


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Message Posted: 17/03/2009 03:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 62 in Discussion |
| that is the normal bereavement process,is it not? |
stewy

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Message Posted: 17/03/2009 05:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 62 in Discussion |
| Castration is the only way to go. |
segmen

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Message Posted: 22/03/2009 17:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 62 in Discussion |
| I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT... IT HAS BEEN A GREAT HELP... SEGMEN |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 23/03/2009 12:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 62 in Discussion |
| Segmen. You stated in your first post that the parents were getting help. How are they getting on now with the help they have received? Are they beginning to accept the situation? |
redtom

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Message Posted: 23/03/2009 22:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 62 in Discussion |
| Segmen good post some good replys. But some biggoted points of view. I personaly dont understand Homosexuality or Bisexualty I to have some great friends who are the above but as i said i dont understand it ! My father used to say to me about depraved sex ! That if you mauled in sh--t you would catch a desease. Tommy |
segmen

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Message Posted: 25/03/2009 10:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 62 in Discussion |
| ANOTHER BAD NEWS!!! Mum and dad of this boy are getting divorced!!!!! Mum found out that boys mum been chatting and meeting with bisexsuals!! How can we save this marriage? Do you think that husband should be panished? She wants all the wealth from him otherwise she is treatining him to reveal everything in Court.Can she that?Is he not a human?He apologized deeply and regrets all the way but I feel he should not be panished this way.. I am waiting for your coments please.....THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.. |
croft


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Message Posted: 26/03/2009 03:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 62 in Discussion |
| Segmen: I strongly suspect that this entire thread has been started by you in order to provoke controversy. Certainly, giving it the title: 'Hi mum and dad I am bisexual!!!' smacks of tabloid newspaper-style hype. Your last post reads suspiciously like an attempt to write a new episode of a soap. (Plus, you never say what your part is in this story.) Now, I'm only a new boy round here, so it may be that other forum members know who you are. Sorry if I'm wrong but I think your wasting people's time. |
Hippo

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Message Posted: 26/03/2009 04:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 62 in Discussion |
| Segman-what a load of absaloute bullshit you spout |
jimjam

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Message Posted: 26/03/2009 06:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 62 in Discussion |
| I for one do not believe that an orientation of sex is anyones business but one's own! I do not think it should be either advertised nor denied, and it should definately not be a topic of discusion upon meeting someone for the first time. I might point out that although i am not homosexual, my son is, and may i also say that he is the most amazing son anyone could ever wish for!! He is kind, diplomatic and sensitive, and is loved by many people...I consider myself a VERY lucky man to have spawned such beauty!! JJ |
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