R U Proud Paradise Rangers Fans?

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:42

R U Proud . . .



For attacking 2 young Celtic fans celebrating their team's cup win?



For there being - what - 10 of you and 2 of them?



For hitting the young girlfriend of one of them - all 7 stone of her?



R U Proud ...?



Oh - and thanks very much to the owners / staff - who did NOTHING during this attack. The police weren't even called.



Trouble in Paradise - definitely!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 21:53

Wilma,

Sounds awful did this happen today and where,

Paul.

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:04

Early this evening in Paradise Sports Bar.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:09

newlad, celtic beat rangers in a cup final today !



sounds like glasgow in girne !

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:13

Kenny,

I realise that mate just wasnt sure where the trouble had taken place,

Paul.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:13

Oh let me guess, expats at their best again. Now where are the scissors I think maybe I can cut the United Kingdom part of my passport off and just retain the EU part. Proud to be British? Not me.

AJ

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:17

The sale of cheapo "exchange" property was a green light for scummy lowlifes to pitch up in a place they don't belong. It just lowers the tone and gives decent expats a bad name.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:20

Pikey,

You really are on form tonight.What background information do you have on the people involved in this particular incident,

Paul.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:21

calamity

i hope serious injury was avoided.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:26

Kenny,

Me to,dont like the sound of it though,

Paul.

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:33

Thanks for your concern.



No serious injuries - cuts and black eyes tomorrow though.



Came to TRNC to get away from all that crap!

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:34

Message 7.

Im wıth new lad on thıs; to ASSUME makes an ass out of you and me and also lack of factual evidence can see you in court for slander and deformation of character. But as macha saıd ıt then ıt must be correct?????????

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:36

Overcharged for your drınks then gıven a kıckıng whıle people stand by and watch. Sounds lıke a nıght out ın Blackpool............

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:43

calamity

Perhaps a bit more clarity would be welcome. Who were the perpetrators? Brits, TC's, GC's, Turks or others?

AJ

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 22:58

Hi AJ



Don't think it really matters - does it? But if you are curious, they were Brits.



I didn't post to get into 'Brits Abroad Bashing' (Macha msg 7), but hopefully to shame those who did it - if they read this forum of course!

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:00

Did anyone else on here witness the incident,

Paul.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:24

newlad,



Football-related pub fights involving the Old Firm generally involves scummy lowlifes. I've arrested a good number of them over the years and know the background.



As I said, the cheaper and dodgier the property, the cheaper and dodgier the person attracted to it.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:31

Calamity

Thanks for your reply and understand your feelings about the situation. I do not want to feed Machas continual anti TRNC crap but just wanted to satisfy my own mind about the nationality of the culprits.

AJ

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:34

Looks like we're on the right lines then, eh AJ?

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:41

The only problem John is whether they are on holiday or living here. That is for you to decide. My question has been answered.

Tatlisu4me


Joined: 26/01/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
15/03/2009 23:41

Just like a "Normal" night in Kilmarnock or Ayia Napa Mach !

Yinglis


Joined: 13/10/2008
Posts: 290

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 00:08

The OLD FIRM brigade are all the same....doesn't matter if it's TRNC or good old Glasgow.It's embarrasing wherever it happens !!

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 06:07

Pikey; Let`s get this right, you think that the Scots are scummy low lifes who came here because of the affordable housing and are giving Brits a bad name?



Strange that, because there is a rumour around that one such person lives in Karaoglangolu and spends most of his time sitting at the computer firing off hate filled missives at all and sundry using various aliases.



By the way, there are loads of Scots in the Lapta area and never a hint of trouble even when the old firm get together.

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 08:24

Hi Macha



Don't know about 'scummy lowlifes' - but the 6ft 6" 40-ish guy who started it off by throwing the first punch at a 5ft 5" 20 year old was, according to his mates, an ex-squaddie. He wasn't known to the boys, who were regulars in Paradise, so perhaps a tourist, and he, or some of his mates, spoke with English accents.

paulgeordie


Joined: 19/07/2008
Posts: 1050

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 14:44

iv,e heard that the 5ft pr8k got a smack for being elated about the two brit squadies that were murderd by scum. just diserves if its true. name and e.mail not withheld

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 14:54

Well Pikey, you are a blue nose and have stuck it in again. You must be a closet Rangers fan. Or maybe a "Queen of the South"



The day will come when that little nose of yours is going to be turned red !



CV: Failed copper, wren, alleged journalist and human being.

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:30

Msg 25.



If true I totally agree with you.

calamity


Joined: 16/01/2009
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:32

Msg 25 & 27 - what you heard was NOT true.

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 16:57

paul msg 25



I take it this is second hand, and one sided info, from those singing the famine song, ( who live out your neck of the woods) and can't except defeat in a football match, violence is a shamefull excuse.

Doc.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 17:48

I wrote this one recently. It was the first of its kind:



http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.2475844.0.football_ban_for_fan_who_sang_sectarian_chorus.php

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 21:38

Paul, msg 25



care to tell us where, or who, you heard that disturbing statement from.



Derek.

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 23:42

Derek



Camouflage, The poor soldiers deaths (God Bless Them) were never mentioned, bullies and cowards trying to hide under someone else's tragedy, how low can they go? beating up a young boy and his girlfriend because they can't accept defeat, and a bit of banter. They are Just trying to justify there violent actions any way possible. I wonder if the same guys were at the UEFA cup final in Manchester last year. Maybe trying to watch on the big screen. Rangers & Celtic have been trying to get rid of people like this for years, for the sake of all the good fans. FOOTBALL, ENJOY THE GAME, NOT THE SHAME.



Doc



Ps msg 25 Paul,pr8k is that a geordie word, for a certain Sunday night customer?

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 23:54

this is getting out of hand , ive been a rangers supporter all my life , have best friends who are celtic supporters , its mindless morons who cause the trouble , how many of the supporters re msg 1 spoke with a scottish accent ???

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 23:54

You also wrote this recently as well Mr DRUT........Would the Daily Herald print this crap below ?



The sale of cheapo "exchange" property was a green light for scummy lowlifes to pitch up in a place they don't belong. It just lowers the tone and gives decent expats a bad name.



&



Football-related pub fights involving the Old Firm generally involves scummy lowlifes. I've arrested a good number of them over the years and know the background.



As I said, the cheaper and dodgier the property, the cheaper and dodgier the person attracted to it.





You are clearly a credit to the profession of liars and s@it stirrers = Journalist's (alleged)

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
16/03/2009 23:56

well said rowlo. two great clubs.

lindoc


Joined: 30/08/2007
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 00:10

As I said earlier Rowlo

Rangers & Celtic have been trying to get rid of people like this for years, for the sake of all the good fans. FOOTBALL, ENJOY THE GAME, NOT THE SHAME.







Doc

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 00:26

well said doc , i had a season ticket at ibrox for 20yrs , listened to the crap that came out mouths , then my son was born , he wantd to watch hearts after much arguments with him and buying him every gers strip on the market ,guess what he wins , hes15 now and got his season ticket at tynecastle , like you say enjoy the game , i go to tynecastle now with my boy ,he enjoys , but i wish we could be at ibrox , ah well better to watch that shxte , than to have him listen to that other shxte enjoy ,, whoever you support.

clews



Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 10:51

As a witness to Sunday's trouble at the Paradise Bar I can only say that the facts posted are extremely biased. For those of us that were sober and enjoying the game we know there was light-hearted banter from both sets of supports, it was only after the match had finished and personal insults had been thrown (which had nothing to do with football) that violence erupted. I do not condone the fighting of the few that took part but there was definitely fault on both sides and for the majority of us who were there to enjoy an afternoon's entertainment it was a very poor end to what had been a great day out.



I give my support to the owners of the bar who do not deserve the criticism they have been given. Every week myself & regulars are made welcome, provided with excellent service and permitted the opportunity to watch sporting events that would otherwise not be possible and if they appeared slow in responding to the trouble maybe that's because the last fight there was 20 years ago!

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 14:59

Msg 34 Tiggy,



Mighty bold personal insults for someone on their final warning. Hope you spend some time in the confession box today when Mamaidh's at Mass. ;)

donegal



Joined: 23/04/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 18:37

Theres 5 Rangers fans sent down to Manchester for rioting last year.First of many who will be charged using CCTV evidence.

90,000 Celtic fans were in Seville for a cup final in 2003. Over a 5 day period not one arrest.Theres a difference.

kenny



Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 405

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 23:01

clews. that sounds like an add for the paradise.



first post !!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
17/03/2009 23:16

Don't be frettin about me....I can always come back like you have done.



Peace on you.

clews



Joined: 16/03/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 11:35

MSG 41



Would seem that the initial discussion has now been lost . . . but to justify my points raised regarding the Paradise Bar perhaps a visit there yourself might confirm my comments.



From a new resident in the TRNC . . .

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 11:50

sort it out paradise everyone will end up boycotting i know a lot of people who already have. anyway flying to trnc today so will pop in at some point to give my points to the staff

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 12:30

After all this i must say yes i am a proud rangers supporter was that not the original question?

Carbotec


Joined: 28/02/2009
Posts: 98

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:44

Mus beware jav77 has some pointers for you

donegal



Joined: 23/04/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
19/03/2009 10:50

As of yesterday in the Glasgow Herald 49 Rangers fans have been identified and will face charges of rioting in Manchester last May.

rosco


Joined: 20/03/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
20/03/2009 10:47

I've just gone through this thread and I have to agree with Clews. I was at paradise on sunday and witnessed the shamefull fighting between old firm fans and I would like to point out as an impartial witness to the events that took place, regardless of what calamity has posted:

Both sides were equally to blame. As a scot I am familiar with the usuall old firm bile and I can tell you now hand on heart I heard both sets of fans signing sectarian songs (IRA SONGS AND THE FAMİNE SONG), which is an absolute disgrace. After the final whistle things got more personal between the protagonists and eventually punches were thrown. But I think some perspective is neccessary here, the first punch was thrown by a rangers fan who looked to be at least 60. This wasn't just youngsters getting out of hand, which begs the question what was said to provoke this? As I said ı think a little perspective is neccessary and people shouldn't just make accusations, especially when they were not even pr