Parental Responsibility

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 13:52

Should parents be held morally and legally responsible for the actions/needs of their children?



Should we introduce Laws making parents more responsible for their children?



Will parental responsibility improve family life; as they would ensure parents are encouraged to take responsibility for their children, hence such responsibility becomes a cultural norm, families will develop closer bonds, marriages will become stronger, and the problems of broken families will decrease.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 14:00

I can never understand why it is illegal to leave children home alone when they can wander the streets causing mayhem 24 hours a day.

Out of sight out of mind.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 14:09

Parents of parents too,it all starts with the family values...The morrals of some families are appauling.















spider.x

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 16:16

In today's paper a Mother in court for leaving her 11yr old and 14yr old on their own while she jetted off to Spain for a week because they were getting on her nerves and making her depressed. She left them with £30 and food in the cupboard when she returned home after 5 days because she had run out of spending money she was met at the airport by police, she was surprised!

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 16:32

I deal with this issue on a day to day basis in the courts. Not every case is the same and the case mentioned above is highly unusual.



The everyday offences are usually being incapable in charge through drink or drugs, leaving syringes and controlled drugs within easy reach of toddlers, subjecting children to filthy conditions e.g. dog excrement and urine/faeces-covered clothes and bedding and neglect.



Others include wilful abandonment (like home alone), locking children out of their own home in freezing conditions and with only pyjamas/light clothing, engaging in prostitution or drug-taking in the presence of children and more.



Knowledge of specific cases is needed before judgement can be cast. I personally think that some types of people are unfit to have children and the state must intervene by removing the children, damaging though that is to the children.



Any couple who split up through their own inadequacy will damage young children emotionally - but it's not illegal.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 16:34

Macha, some of these people are not capable of looking after an animal let alone a child.



Where did it all go wrong?

OLDGIRL



Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 118

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 16:53

My eldest son works with the homeless and drink/drug abusers in Blackpool,some have started out with parents throwing them out for what ever reason.

I suppose it is hard parents not knowing were there kids are once they go out in everyday life,we cannot follow them around,I think schools should take a harder hand after all they look after our kids 6 hours a day 5 days a week.

I thought my boys were fairly good when they were young until one day the scout master told me my eldest was having a good swear on the bus,he tells me now there were loads of things he did we didnt know about,we were good parents.He is an ex drug addict clean now for 9 years

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Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:05

Doyen,



A very good question, where DID it all go wrong? My main concern from seeing this face to face is how much worse will it get. Up till now the grandparents stepped in before the state/criminal jutice system intervened. Now we have three generations of drug addicted, uneducated criminals who have never worked and who do not identify with or are part of our society.



When you see just how bad it can be on the ground you sometimes can't help wondering when the tear gas and rubber bullets will start to be deployed. Because I fear we may be heading for localised disorder on a large scale.



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Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:07

Pam,



Great to hear your lad's beaten his addiction. It can't have been easy. Good luck to him and to you.

OLDGIRL



Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 118

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:17

We are proud of him.

He had a wonderfull place were he stayed called Pier Point,then wanted to work with abusers and now loves it.

Do you think some things are ment to be.

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:19

Pam,



Yes, I agree some things are destined. The best therapists and counsellors are the ex addicts themselves. Without them the system would have no credibility or real support.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:22

Pam. Be very proud of your Son, not many could do that type of work.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 17:24

Yes Pam(old girl) Hats off to your son.and all who are trying to beat addiction,its a day at a time,that gives back peace of mind to all loved ones involved.may you have peace of mind always,x













Spider.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 18:29

Pam, how wonderful that your Son has got himself clean, you must have had a hard time of it when he was using. Good luck to you and your Son.

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:08

Msg 8....we could employ them all as solicitors .....what do you think ?

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:14

Msg 15,



I don't think THAT badly of the poor reprobates!

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:17

Msg 11.....using that sort of analogy.....the best judges should have been the most hienous criminals.....actually we might have more sensible judgements ,if that were the case!

Macha


Joined: 18/01/2009
Posts: 650

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:24

Clarets,



It may work! Certainly a good few of our lordships are reprobates so let's get a few more who know the people they're dealing with.

steveg1947


Joined: 24/03/2008
Posts: 54

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:31

In response to message 7 by OLDGIRL,

I work in a school in Greater Manchester. Bear in mind that schools only operate for a statutory 195 days per year so at even 6.5 hours a day that is 1276.5 hrs ( 15% ). There are 8760 hours in a year so that leaves 7492.5 hrs (85% ) when the children are not in school! Who is responsible for them during these a hours?

Over the past 20 years or so a lot of the authority to discipline children, such as by using corporal punishment has been taken away from the schools as has some of the powers of the police in disciplining children in the street. Many teachers are afraid to take too strong a line in case there are allegations of abuse levelled against them. As people have already stated the initial responsibility of ALL parents is to bring their children up to respect people, the law and property. Many parents fail miserably to do this to do this.

From my experience, the majority of parents I come in contact with through school are very supportive

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:32

I'll drink to that !

stewy


Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 279

Message Posted:
18/03/2009 19:58

I am confused as to why this has been posted?



Surely the poster is in the wrong forum?