is anyone else sick of it

jimjam


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 06:46

Is anyone else sick to death of worrying about being accepted for a renewel of residency, or whether your boss will get you a new work permit...doesn't it piss you off that while you do everything in your power to be legal and pay your taxes, there are so many brits trying to con the system...i for one am getting more and more angry at those that try to take the piss and live the life of riley, without ever making some kind of commitment, like working with no permit or nipping across the border for a temp residency, or forging paperwork and bank documents to gain a years permit....This behaviour would not be tolerated in the UK, so why should we expect the TC to tolerate it from us?????

dozza67


Joined: 11/07/2008
Posts: 607

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 09:19

They wouldn't do this kind of stuff in UK. I too am pissed off with people who just can't be honest. I am never ever worried because we keep within the law at all times. This country belongs to the Turkish Cypriots and we should obey their laws. Do everything by the book and you will always feel better not having to worry about knocks on the door. The TC's are not stupid and know who the baddies are. They will get their come-uppance. BE LEGAL

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 09:26

The only problem with the above posts is that most Cypriots would tell you it isn't necessary to have work permits, if you are a EU citizen, and you need only register and pay 8 Euros for five years for residency..



That's in the bit of Cyprus where the recognised govt exercises effective control..



"Legal" in Cyprus is a very debatable thing..

CarrieRBag



Joined: 23/12/2008
Posts: 1374

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 10:08

Where did you get the info on no work permit if an EU citizen and the €8 for 5 years residency? Are you talking about the North or South or/and is it a quote from a Greek Cypriot rather than a Turkish Cypriot? Just a little confused is all. Thanks

jimjam


Joined: 23/03/2009
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 11:49

msg 3....where did you get this info from...in north cyprus that is absolute tosh!! Residency's cost a lot more than 8euro's and to be able to stay here you must have the correct visa'a and permits!!



JJ

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 11:59

Msgs 4 & 5,

Not wanting to cause any controversy, but if you re-read mmmm's message 3, it says -

"most Cypriots would tell you it isn't necessary to have work permits, if you are a EU citizen, and you need only register and pay 8 Euros for five years for residency..

That's in the bit of Cyprus where the recognised govt exercises effective control.. "

That's mmmmm 'code' for SOUTH CYPRUS !

Keith.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 13:01

re msg 6 Keithcaley



Thanks for explaining - but .. Not my "code" ... it is official UK / IRL / EU govt speak..

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 13:17

m&m's



Out of interest, what is the official IRL Govt speak on the TRNC?



Or Russian for that matter?



Not being sarcastic,.. actually interested.



Rob

Magbs


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 278

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 16:55

ROBnJo msg.8



Russian official opinion...well, it depends on who you listen to



Russian smbassador to Ankara referring to the example of Caucasus region said "Russia sholud/would (unclear) recognize the TRNC right after Turkey recognizes South Ossetia and Abkhazia"



On the other hand Russian ambassador to Athens referring to the recognition of the independence of North Ossetia and Abkhazia by Russia said that their case is absulutely different and "unique".

Following the war in Georgia, several Russian foreign ministy officials said Russia would not recognise TRNC.



Mehmet Talat told russian newspaper "kommersant" that Russia had double, even multiple standards, i.e. she makes her own standards for each new case.



Sorry, no English links.

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 17:02

yes sick fed up with all we used to listen to they come over here nick our jobs now here they are doing the same and as for mmmm you must be another ilegal or you would not keep standing up for them you are in turkish ocupied cyprus nothing to do with eu

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 17:09

Magbs



Many thanks.



It does seem that most Nations are sitting on the fence.



I am getting the feeling that 'recognition' of the TRNC has nothing whatsoever to do with the re-unification of Cuprus, but more to do with the International Politics of Strategic Access.



Rob

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 17:29

Hi RobnJo re msg 8

( Thx to Magbs) for the Ru input ! ;)



Irish



Ma http://www.irishembassy.nl/home/index.aspx?id=408



Italian - up to date - not



http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Politica_Europea/AffariGen_RelazEst/UE_allargamento/paesimembri/Cipro.htm



Most interestingly : Two Ulster Politicians register their "interests" and refer to the "TRNC" without the " "'s - I must have a word with the NIA ;)



http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/members/expenses/register1.htm



Russia?: Here's one in English !



http://www.cyprus.mid.ru/en/speech.htm

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
26/03/2009 17:44

Dear Gates, re msg 10



"as for mmmm you must be another ilegal"



Sounds like you might have "some wires crossed" - YES, I know your profession ;)



Perhaps YOU can answer me this? I've asked it several times and no-one seems to know the answer..



If the EU has "nought" to do with it.. then WHAT is to stop an EU Citizen working in the "area of Cy where the govt has effective control" - just like TCs can? THAT is under the rules of the EU - they are only "suspended" re what YOU call "TRNC".



No work permit necessary - but WHO taxes the TCs ? To whom do they pay N.I contributions - social insurance..



Lastly, I was quite legal *officially* re Cyprus - well apart from not changing my driver's licence..sssh !