air conditioner timers have arrived

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 17:37

got a load of timers that save electric call 05338384636 for more info

Anthony


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 17:50

How much are they and can I fit one myself?

jonkay


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 19:00

Hi, I have the same question, how much, are they easy to fit and do you have any left. Thanks

fazo1


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 20:17

hi racoonchic yes i do re gas units and repair and install new would like to see your ac timers call me on 05428853211

Dennis


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 20:19

We have an abundant supply of these timers and they will be arriving on Saturday .

lucienne


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 20:29

Hi,

I'm bringing a couple of timers suitable for aircon and immersions over for a friend. I have a couple spare if anyone would like them, they can email me jacky.hughes@tiscali.co.uk and I will tell them how much and arrange to meet with them next week.

Dennis


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 20:32

If anyone would like these timers please let me know how many and i will get them over. They are hard wired so that they cannot be tampered with and will allow the unit to run for a maximum of 2 hours. They are easy to install and come with complete instructions. They can also be fitted to imersion heaters.

Anthony


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 20:44

I'm getting confused. How many people are selling timers?

Dennis


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Message Posted:
27/03/2009 21:14

Well we are ! If you are interested why not visit our web site http://www.solaair.com

you will find information on our products there. We are also marketing a cure for damp and comming soon eco friendly shower heads that do work. We are in Cyprus over the next two weeks and would be happy to meet to demonstrate these energy/water/money saving devices.

kibsolar


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Message Posted:
28/03/2009 16:00

if nobody of the members exept Dennis are willing to tell how much the timers are, then go and check yourself.

they are availavble in the DIY market just 200 meters after the roundabout to Larnaca towards Latsia on the left (same way as you would go to IKEA)



i dont know how much they are, as i have a proper solar water heater on my roof.

Dennis


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Message Posted:
28/03/2009 19:17

What are yopu talking about? We are marketing these for AC units not hot water systems although they can be used on immersion heaters also.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
28/03/2009 19:26

hi guys thanks for the response if they are to be installed by our electrician they will be 80 pounds if supplied only they will be 65 pounds take over3 and we can supply and fit for 70 pounds electrician is uk registered the units are being sold fitted in the south for 75 euro plus vat and to buy them in the diy shop in larnaca they are 59 euro plus vat

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
28/03/2009 19:29

and dennis the units were origonally for immersion heaters but because of there kwat capacity they can also be used for ac

Anthony


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Message Posted:
28/03/2009 22:29

racoonchic



Well, they can't be used for both. It's one or the other. So, make your mind up.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 02:03

anthony are you nuts i just said they can be used for both and you are really quite rude with your coments

kibsolar


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 12:03

it wasnt rude. it was funny.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 12:13

Are these timers rated for resistive loads or inductive loads?

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:27

there 13a 230v ac suitable for load up to 3 kw hope that helps

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:37

Vaughan



I think we have a technical problem here!!

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:43

why s that harlequin

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:47

I think you will find that the answer lies in Vaughan's question.

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:50

Just wondering! Does everyone involved in importing or selling or installing these timers have the proper permits?

DONTY


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:54

Very confusing!!!!!



I have a timer for my immersion. bought it on the south for about £20.



kibsolar. Does your solar heater give piping hot water in the winter, if so how much does this system cost?

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 19:58

im sure your right but as stated im not an electrician as soon as mine rings me back i will answer all your enquiries and then you can start acting your age 10 wasnt it

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 20:02

any further electrical enquires can be answered by calling paul mccarthy on05338855268

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 21:32

racoonchic



Which one can it be used with?

DONTY


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 21:52

So should i deep fry it or will you be collecting the hatstand yourself?



p.s. I prefer the blue one

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
29/03/2009 22:01

Looks like someone doesn't know their product.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:09

it can be used for both harlequin at the same time this is a wall mounted timer that replaces the existing on off led control for the air con units or the immersion switch the questions you are posting along with your friend mr williams are not overly relivant but are intended to make others doubt as we all know mr williams is a very nice guy but is a buisness man who is also selling a form of coin fed timers so anything that might pose a threat to to him i can understand as i also have a plumbing buisness in the uk . if you have nothing better to do than try and make someone look foolish for your own gain you must be a very sad and lonely person you were probably the school bully!

cooper


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:14

Are these the ones - http://www.google.co.uk/url?q= http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Timers_Index/Immersion_Heater_Timers_2/&ei=iFC1SdPQGpC0jAfQwuzbBQ&sa=X&oi=spellmeleon_result&resnum=2&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNH4ELNq-JXVbf59-RbYvOY0lhRxYw



Cooper

cooper


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:18

Sorry try this link - http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Timers_Index/Immersion_Heater_Timers_2/



Cooper

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:34

very simillar cooper

MimoMar


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:47

Yet another product advertised on this forum and then 'rubbished' by the members with vested interests.

In future, why don't we automate this system to save everyone the time and bother!

I really do have to laugh!

'Racoonchic' - Sorry, you're not a member of 'the club,' so you are not allowed!

I'm sure that some will be interested in your product and hope that you do have all the correct licences and paperwork. If you do, good luck to you! If you don't, good luck to you!

Why not put all the different products and services that everyone seems to have on offer, in their user-profile and then, we all can see who is offering what, and also, work out why someone is for or, against a particular post.



OR,



Why not do the decent thing and declare an interest before posting?

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 08:50

thank you mimomar well said

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 10:28

The reason I asked about rating at resistive or inductive loads is beacuse of the following:

A resistive load like an immersion heater draws 3kW (if thats what it's rated at) at switch on and continuously thereafter. Therefore the current drawn never exceeds the rated value at any time.

An inductive load, like a direct-on-line electric motor (as in an a/c unit), at switch on is effectively a stalled motor which requires a very high start current. This start current is known as the locked-rotor amperage and can be many times more than the run current which may be 3kW or less.

Therefore, switches, fuses, mcbs' and/or timers which are resistive rated may not be suitable, in the long run, on inductive loads.

In any case a 3kW timer, although adequate for a 9000Btu a/c unit (on the face of it), would struggle once connected to a larger a/c unit. For example, a 24000Btu unit can draw, at times, nearly 20A (5kW) run current.

sylvie


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 10:43

i though advertise for selling has its own place ..... at the end of the page !

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 13:47

"continuously thereafter"

I should have added "Ohm's Law notwithstanding".

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 19:06

thanks vaughan i ill take this good advise and pass it to the electrician you know him paul mccarthy

kibsolar


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 20:32

msg 22 Harlequin, is there no way to "force" companies to show openly in name and member info that they are commercial? all the "others" would be "private" and the subject would be clear.



msg 23, Donty. solar systems not always produce piping hot water. of course. in days of lower sunshine you need to switch the electric resistance on, but cuts off automatically when shower temperature is reached. as the storage tank is well insulated, a big heat loss is avoided. the reason why a "timer" is required is because 95% of all hot water storage tanks in north cyprus are rubbish. sorry, prices only via email or after a survey.



msg 33,

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 21:39

well thats a load off me mind i was just wondering when someone would bring ohm,s law into all of this is that the inlaw or the outlaw or the shake it all aboutlaw lol

Lazy days


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 21:53

But then maybe he's an outlaw

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 21:56

hey lazy do i know you your name rings a bell

Harlequin


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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 22:46

racoonchic



Ohm's law applies to electrical circuits; it states that the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference or voltage across the two points, and inversely proportional to the resistance between them.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm%27s_law



and sadly for you timers are not exempt.

blinky



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Message Posted:
30/03/2009 23:20

you guys need to be carefull!!!, you will be causing fires in your 'dream villas!!!

Dont mess with things if you dont know how they work.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
31/03/2009 08:12

its funny that horstmann the company who are supplying the timers have given the all clear for the use of thier product on ac units and the fact that we have been testing them in three different villas here since last august without one hiccup .isuggest u catch another fish to fry although you will probably burn that one as well. the fact is these units work they save on electric and there fore help with the enviroment . enough said .

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
31/03/2009 08:30

I am sure that these timers have their place in the great scheme of things and that they are to be recommended in the interests of saving money and the planet. However, like all devices they need to be used within their limitations, if they have any.

I am not comparing your product with the one I am promoting as they do a similar job but work on different principles. A timer needs resetting and will therefore shut-down unattended systems - good. A credit meter will collect money to pay for electricity used for a/c and discipline the user to be economical - also good.

Either way less electricity should end up being used, which is the aim for both systems.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
31/03/2009 08:36

totally agrree good luck to all

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
02/04/2009 00:46

we would be interested in a timer for our immersion however we are not yet in our house although hope to be in by the end of april !! so will be in touch at a later date (if you still have some in stock by then)

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 14:42

no problem 05338384636 to reserve

Magbs


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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 18:09

re Harlequin msg 43



"Ohm's law applies to electrical circuits...and sadly for you timers are not exempt"



Please reread the article as a whole. Inductive (or, generally speaking, reactive) components in AC applications do not obey Ohm's law as a simple linear relationship between current and voltage.

That is not to say you get unexpected amperage. In fact numerous devices in nonlinear circuits work perfectly (provided they are well designed )

maggie


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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 18:13

I have just bought timers for my aircon £24.00 each, with 15, 30 and 60 minutes maximum timer. Fits easy onto existing aircon socket, takes about 15 minutes to do. I bought them in England.

colly


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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 19:43

I fitted the Horstmann boost to the immersion on the old house as protection against it being left on in the winter and colder months. It was approx £20 and worked very well. It had the advantage of not being able to over ride and fitting directly to the old pattress box in place of the switch. But of course could not be used as a timer and strictly speaking I belive that the gap on the switch might not fully conform so should still have another isolator between board and immersion.

Now if my memory is correct re the gap then it might not be prudent to fit as the only form of isolation on an air con unit. But then I am no electrician!

Col

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 20:10

all concerns have been directed via email and telephone to the manufacturer and i am assured they are compatable but thanks for the possitive thinking guys

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 20:13

all concerns have been directed via email and telephone to the manufacturer and i am assured they are compatable but thanks for the possitive thinking guys and yoy can buy the units yourself in any good uk based electric store for btween 25 and 40 pounds the flights are a bit more expensive though lol

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
04/04/2009 02:34

Message 51 maggie, Thank God for a woman & sanity.xxx



Where did you get them, can I ask ?

brandy sour


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Message Posted:
04/04/2009 13:34

I hope people who are buying these timers are stating this when the rent out their properties because in the hot months it will be a nightmare knowing you can only have them on for a little time.

colly


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Message Posted:
04/04/2009 20:31

It will be the sleep in the evenings that cause the problem!

Col