Prisons to be Abolished?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:14

Should prisons be abolished in favour of alternative punishment?

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:25

Dry Baulk



You crease me.



Bob

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:31

What do you have in mind Bill ??

Regards , Pat

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:38

Not so long ago, it became unacceptable for society to put its citizens in stocks, or publicly dunk them in water, brand them or to burn them alive. These are outdated methods of punishment.



Are prisons now an outdated form of punishment?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:45

Pat. I've nothing specific in mind, I just thought I would see if anyone can come up with an alternative form of punishment rather than prison.



I know to some extent community service is supposed to be effective, but is it?



If you had commited a minor offence and you had to meet with a group of likeminded criminals once a week to get graffiti off of a wall or chewing gum off of bus seats, would it stop you reoffending?

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:48

Hi Doyen,



Depending on what has been done.



Such as rape, murder, etc then I think you need a good hard prison such as work everyday.



For little crimes then they should be sent to Afgan to help make the food and drinks for the armed forces for a month at a time, then maybe when they come back they will think twice about doing it again.



Thanks.



David.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:56

'Custodial sentences will always be at the core of the criminal justice system as long as the public needs to be protected from certain offenders. Some of whom I'm just off to see now.'



John

Give my regards to Gary.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 13:59

Re msg 4 , Hi Pikey oops sorry Sweetie thought you were someone else for a minute , i was'nt actually talking to you , my question was to Bill have you ever heard of the saying " attack is the best form of defence " Why should it worry you so ?

Regards

OLDGIRL



Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 118

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 14:09

The offenders should be put through the same act as they have performed on there victims,I know this will not work in many cases and many do gooders

would cry OH NO. x

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 15:53

I think the jail here should be closed down. A friend of our was wrongly arrested this week. A bag was put over his head and beaten and kicked to within an inch of his life. Barbaric to say the least. He was later released when they realised they had the wrong person without any apology. They tried to beat a confession out of him. That couldnt happen in Uk any more but where are a persons rights here in cases like this.

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 16:02

lilli,

you say that couldn't happen in the uk? What about the gut that was mistaken for a terrorist?

Beaten into a purple blotch!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 16:28

Hi canyavuz didnt know about that sorry. Its so awful isnt it. I meant that policital correctness woudnt allow it in uk and if it does then they can get help or componsation but not here no one to help.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 16:35

No1, shoot, hang or whatever all the murderers, child molesters etc and the yobs put in a special army..all fine nonpayers to do community service and all the petty crime bunch in boot camp for a month..how about that...

david123


Joined: 07/07/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 16:43

Hi Dee,



Sounds good to me.



David.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 16:52

dee, spot on with that one. :0

joseph


Joined: 17/04/2008
Posts: 709

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 17:18

I would build more.



No1 's question reflects that the system has broken down as yet again the politicians are failing in their duty to the public re tariffs.



Two recent case points... last week a woman and her boyfriend were sentenced to three years for causing the death of her little child.. 2yrs old.

The postmortum revealed the little girl had at some time had both arms broken, both legs broken and several ribs. If that was your child/grandchild how would you feel about such a sentence.



A young teenager was murdered by a yob (knifed I think). The yob was 19, the young lad 16, the victim is gone forever... the yob given 13 years.



I believe society should show mercy but... can only show such mercy when it is in control of crime etc and not, as is apparent, such evil acts are out of control.

As the popular song goes... let the punishment fit the crime.



I think the pendulum has swung far too much towards the do gooders without due diligence... or am I wrong?



Joseph

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 17:52

Don't you go worrying your pretty little head about me Sweetie . I've managed to get through life so far without too much of a struggle , but if i need you , i know where you are . You are such a thoughtful boy

Bless you , Simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/04/2009 18:21

What do you mean ?{ i don't want to disappoint you ! } more lovable than you are now , is that possible ?

you take care , Simbas