Talat proposes a timetable

fire starter


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 10:49

reported today in the hurriyet daily news.

president talat says 'the cyprus issue can be and should be solved by the end of 2009.'

this can only be a good thing for cyprus and it is nice to see someone working hard for a solution.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 10:51

We live in hope F/s. I know how hard he wants to be the one to make it happen.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 10:59

Hi F/S, re msg 1



Let's hope he's right !

fire starter


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 11:11

i hope mr c in the roc agrees !

bachelibelly


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 11:16

Seems to me all they have ageed to so far "is to differ"

fire starter


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 11:27

i think they have probably agreed on more than we give them credit for.

we have had leaks from the press but i would love to be a fly on the wall.

Geoff


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 12:35

Re Msg #4. It is not Mr C who is the problem, it is the Archbishops over there. As a result it seems that his Party, AKEL, is nor breaking off its tie up with DIKO and insread forming a new alliance with DISY. This according to the Cyprus Mail over on the GC side. If so it makes a lot of sense, since AKEL is communist, DIKO is right wing - never was an ideal coaltion, and DIKO always do what their Cleric masters tell them. Much better chance of a solution with AKEL and DISY on the same side; Talat knows that. I thus remain very optimistic of a settlement - as Mr T says before the end of 2009.

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 13:11

I think they still disagree on a few minor details like, land return, borders, property and power sharing. Apart from those, it's a done deal. ;-)

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 13:54

Lets not confuse a 'solution' with re-unification as everyone appears to be doing.

AJ

maybemike


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 14:31

Yes AJ I agree, there will be no, NO reunification, there will however be a solution and I think by the end of this year and with Obama in Turkey it should be one that favours the North..

maybemike


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 14:40

I also think Obama in Turkey has seriously pee'd off the GC's..wappo Obama

cocos


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 15:20

Talat won't be in power by the end of 2009 I don't think.

maybemike


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 16:08

The elections to decide the next president are not until 2010 so I think he will be

spangles


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 16:28

TRNCVaughan message 8. You do make me laugh!

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 16:42

Well it looks as though Obama definately has an agenda.

Mr Obama said his trip was a statement of the importance of Turkey to the US, at a news conference in Ankara with his Turkish counterpart, Abdullah Gul.

He is hoping to revitalise ties with Turkey, which have deteriorated in recent years over the war in Iraq.

Is it a Military station in TRNC?? is it because Oil will be flowing through Turkey from the oilfields of Northern Iraq??

Who knows but all will be revealed in good time probably sooner rather than later if the US start throwing money at the problem to buy the result they want to meet thier ends.

maybemike


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 16:51

The US will and probably already are throwing money around and it could see Turkey's rapid entry into the EU..and following or preceeding the Cyprus 'problem' solved...

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 17:19

Maybe Mike

jay76


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 17:24

Not going to happen

maybemike


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 17:25

The Saints, nice one .

andre 514


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:49

why do some people talk up the negociations?



in order to scare people off buying exchange land of course!



never mind, this year there is a switchover to universal trnc deeds



and no reunification means two states and a jolly good thing too



long live kktc

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:53

Dear Geoff re msg 7



"It is not Mr C who is the problem, it is the Archbishops over there. ..."



1/ DISY is a right of centre party, too



2/ and AKEL-DISY accord on the peace talks would mean nearly 80% of the GC electorate would -if following the party recommendation mean a YES, if their leaders suggest how to vote.



3/ the "rump" RoC is a little like Eire was in the 60's - the role of the Church, whilst strong , is starting to fade...

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:56

Well Andre

I purchased my Gaff on Exchange land and I am quite happy with the deal and very optomistic for the future.

By the time I recieve my deeds in god knows how many years time they will probably say TRNC FREEHOLD and have no other title reference.

I can live with that quite nicely.

cronos


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:56

mmmmmm....msg 21



Beware of the Men In Black !

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 18:59

Dear Andre_514 re msg 20



"why do some people talk up the negociations?..in order to scare people off buying exchange land of course! "



REALLY?



Do YOU know what the agreed outcome of the talks will be?! :0





Let's face it - with TC "dep. PMs" claiming "guarantees" and the GC position being somewhat different a solution LOOKS miles away ..



Some of us want a solution, as it will increase understanding and help the Cypriots financially - esp those not able to access the markets for Tourism and Trade that so called "independence" has actually prevented.



An Autonomous federated govt would have more REAL power than now.

andre 514


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 20:33

it is irrelevant to most of us here, that there may be in south cyprus

splendid parties calling themselves dickhead or dizzy or whatever



but this is north cyprus where a mortgage is called a mortgage,

and not south cyprus where huge numbers will never own their homes

having paid hundreds of thousands to the trade,

because in the nature of things there are "developer loans" on their properties

taken out by the builders who really own them

(source: cyprus mail)



and this corrupt ragbag would be in the majority if a "solution" ever pops up?

mark you once lived in south cyprus, perhaps you can defend the indefensible



long live kktc/long live trnc freehold

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 20:57

I was asking a question, you answered with a question??

SAo I will answer your question with a question.



Do they need the GCs permission to do something/anything in the TRNC??

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 20:59

Dear Andre_514, re msg 25



Sadly, as is your want - you would rather point out the obvious deficiencies of the "rump" RoC - which as you can see are well documented in the press and on line.



Have you missed all the posts on here about similar cases in "TRNC"..?



Have you seen me post anywhere on here ( other than the Aga case )is a similar fashion to how you are posting now ?



Sadly, instances of corruption / unfair play aren't isolated to just one part of Cyprus ..



Again, I detect a selective memory problem... how many folk remember a plan to make a lot of "TRNC" freehold title 99 year leases... ?

andre 514


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 21:41

mark,



according to your own postings there is corruption north and south of the line

you have had your own clash with the government in the republic of cyprus...

perhaps a case of banging heads together?



but it is wearying to to bat back and forth that for every robb

there is a beaumont

and for every hidden mortgage in the trnc,

there are one or even one hundred so-called "developer loans" in south cyprus



having seen your many posts talking up the cyprus negociations,

("luckily for the talks" sic)

I am forced to admit there is a probabilty that they will result in success

not the talks they are dead in the water...

but success in terms of converting less worldly membersof cyprus 44

that something can be made from nothing at all



and when by year's end talat, christy and downer finally bury the corpse,

the most humane solution for cyprus will emerge wet, blinking and new-born,

separate cyprus republics, as deep down we always knew it would

andre 514


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:22

you have obviously been pondering on the cyprus problem dryboak

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:25

Yep the Yanks never go into any country uninvited eh!!!

dodger



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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:36

http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/link.asp?twindow=Default&smenu=69&sdetail=8283&mad=No&wpage=&skeyword=&sidate=

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:40

Cylad was removed last night and replaced by dryboak.. truly a sad demented lad that can not get on in life on his own.



A moderator just has to let Izzet know he is back and this vermin will be removed.....again. He is also using another name that will be revealed again shortly as he can not help himself.

Aussie


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Message Posted:
06/04/2009 23:49

Karoyian blasts Cyprus arbitration idea

FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE 05.APR.09

House Speaker Marios Karoyian, commenting on Mr Talat's demand fof arbitration, said that it serves Turkey's goals on the Cyprus issue.



Mr.Karoyian stressed that the Greek-Cypriot side does not accept any sort of arbitration or tight deadlines imposed on the negotiation process.



Commenting on the issue of missing persons, Mr.Karoyian said that the Çouse of Representatives, in coordination with the government, will intensify efforts at forcing the Turkish side to comply with relevant European Court of Human Rights decisions to discover the fate of thos missing. -

juliet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 08:00

msg 11



Why would Mr O in Turkey pee off the Gcs? our own Mr C met Mr O in Prague just two days before Mr Os trip to Turkey, Mr O probaly mentioned the Cyprus problem in a two minute conversation with Turkey, i think he has bigger fish to fry with Turkey for the moment.........

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 08:22

Juliet, Mr O didnt travel to the South to meet with Mr C...he did however make a point of GOING to Turkey..do keep up dear..

juliet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 08:36

dee

you obvioulsy didnt read my post well as usual... do keep up dear...

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 08:40

I did read your message and it is you that as usual is missing the point...

andre 514


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 09:45

ladies, ladies...



interesting to see that obama leader of the world's most powerful country

supports turkey in the eu



while sarkastic and merkurial who actually decide the issue say "non"



now that's settled, we can go back to debating whether

any hypothetical "solution" for cyprus would make things better or worse