On line now: article "Property guarantee, says TRNC minister"

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 11:22

I still receive email with the request to send the article "Property guarantee" (Cyprus Star, with quotes from Deputy Prime Minister Turgay Avci).



So I've reconsidered and made the article available on line for every board member.



=> Find and read, print or download the article here: http://tinyurl.com/datg23



PS. I will not reply to emails re this subject anymore!

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 11:43

PIKE i hope you not suggesting you are sensible

Woodspeckie


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 11:46

Sounds familiar like the guarantees and promises we get from the UK government.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 11:52

RE msg 2, Dryboak (Dryboak? Five years back in time, Eric?): > the TRNC authorities would have made a proper announcement across all broadcast and print media <



=> I agree, Eric. The TRNC Government definitely need someone like you to do its Public Relations. Why don't you contact the Government to offer your valued advice and services?

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 12:22

Pikey how does it feel to be so lonley and unwanted from birth,

you get banned every other week,

your comments are the same old rubbish,

give it a rest your comments are never going to change anything so you are fighting a losing battle,

put your hands up and except the fact,

you can get help,

juliet


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 12:22

msg 6



It will happen just like you say.. Mr O wants Turkey in the EU but Turkey must pull out it`s troops & let the Cypriots get on with there talks regarding the freedom of Cyprus.



http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/news

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 12:27

RE msg 6, Dryboak: > the TRNC "state" which has held back the Turkish Cypriots for so many years. <



=> I beg to differ. This is the right line: "South Cyprus, which has held back the Turkish Cypriots for so many years. <



PS. Dream on.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 12:32

RE msg 8, juliet: It is very worrying that your look at the world including Cyprus seems to be fed only by this biased South Cyprus rag Famagusta-Gazette. Even their weather forecast is lousy.

jay76


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 12:34

juliet



It will happen just like you say.. Mr O wants Turkey in the EU but Turkey must pull out it`s troops & let the Cypriots get on with there talks regarding the freedom of Cyprus.



juliet, although the link you left does not work can you show where it says mr O wants turkey to pull out its troops.

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 14:35

jay



just click on the homepage link, one of the EU & UN conditions for Turkey joing the club is to free Cyprus of its troops & most of its settlers...

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 14:44

Lord Haw Haw and Tokyo Rose making fools of themselves again.



Not bad for a "wee man" that wrote obituary columns for the "Glasgow Bugle"



Tick....tick....tick...

Smiffy


Joined: 07/04/2009
Posts: 47

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 14:55

Surely this "guarantee" is what we all signed up for when we bought our "safe" exchange properties. I believed it 6 years ago, but now I feel regardless of speeches or articles from Government ministers, the reality will only be forthcoming when the current solution talks are concluded, referendums held and outcome decided. Then and only then will we know if the status quo prevails or we are all in for a nasty shock in the form of a compensation bill.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 15:06

Smiffy, I think the vast majority of forum users believe the same as you. when the talks etc are over we will hopefully be aware of what the future holds for all who are native to the island and those of us who wish to be part of it.

DONTY


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Posts: 534

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 15:19

why on earth didnt you just offer up this article in the first place dutch? Is it a control thing?

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 16:27

juliet



Still unable to find the statement from mr O about him wanting the turkish army to pull out.

AndyLynnW


Joined: 05/12/2008
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 16:34

Hi Juliet,



I am quite new to this forum and wondered if you own a property in the TRNC ?

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 16:50

just think if you purchased exchange land you could be living on it?

juliets property that is.

greenman


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:00

Since no one else has done so, I would like to say THANK YOU to DutchCrusader for taking the time and trouble to post the article link in Message 1.

There is so much point scoring on this board that basic manners appear to have been forgotten.

greenman

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:31

Thank you DC for the article, but still not an international agreement.. unless you can prove otherwise...

jay76


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:34

juliet







Still unable to find the statement from mr O about him wanting the turkish army to pull out.

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:37

jay

The article mentions that Mr O wants Turkey in the EU, but the EU & UN won`t accept them until the troops & some settlers leave, that bit is not in the article but its one of the only ways Turkey will get in...

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:44

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well thats it then praps turkey will just pull the troops out,

think there gona start tom.

juliet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:45

as tiggy says.. tick tock....

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:49

Tiggy: "Tick....tick....tick..."

Ve haf vays of making you tock.





And we have the 'Guarantee'. You remember the one.....

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:51

i think turkey may have other motives regarding the troops here.

everytime hubby goes to the army shop anyone he meets are of kurdish origin.

now knowing the turks dislike the kurds , what better place to make them do national service, cyprus. out of harms way!

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 17:54

tick tock you said it.

juliet


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:00

still the article only remains in the trnc... i wonder why..

jay76


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:00

errrrrr clenched fist salute, is that what parking attendents do then PIKEY.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:04

Tiggy,

You have no idea who I am. Anyone can call themselves anything on this board and as long as they stick to the rules then good luck to them. The one thing that can earn you a ban is clowning around playing at being two people at once. That's gpt to be sad, right? So why did YOU do it by logging on as Kapparis Kid and Tiggy? Shouldn't YOU be banned as a hypocritical chancer?



Pikey, you lie well. besides your latest name you have at least one other! You are really pi@@ed off because you thougth the KK was going to befriend you as you approached him with if I can remember...." Hello Kapparis Kid, welcome to the forum, are you from the other side" !!! I nearly wet myself, as I knew you would fall for it. How many others have you welcomed to the board??. You have the gall to comment about me.....you will be getting a medal for being banned the most on any forum soon. Have a backbone and take the hint. Sorry if made you look an idiot....again



KK is buried....unlike you.

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:20

tiggy

again another slanderous post.. anyone would think you dont like this lovely island.. and it is an island that belongs to cypriots & anyone else that accepts it as one... can you in your armchair in the UK give us an international link to the article DC very kindly gave you all ??? as nobody else seems able to...

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:39

J. I am not in the uk at present. again you poke your nose in to a message for a banned member. Sorry I can not help you with the link.



Is it not time you started peeling the spuds?

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:44

dont think anyone can help with a link... ME poke my nose in to your post, its usually you poking your nose in...



Out for dinner to night tiggy.. another lovely meze

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:47

aint that sweet juliet and pikey going out for dinner tonight.

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 18:54

Nope, we are having a BBQ tonight with no meze....thanks for asking.



Are you doing his favourite of "Hot tongue & Cold Shoulder" goes down well with Cyprus pots.....grown in GC soil of course.

juliet


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Posts: 612

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 19:00

you misunderstood tiggy, WE are out for meze tonight, still to cold for us locals yet to get out the barbie...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 19:01

RE msg 16, DONTY: > why on earth didnt you just offer up this article in the first place dutch? Is it a control thing? <



=> You've asked this question several times in different threads. My remark: you could have had and read the article one week ago when you had shown interest by just emailing "yes". Really, a lot of people did. My second remark: is it your server or mine? Like cyprus44 manager Izzet says "this is my board", I say "it's my server". So I do the work and I make the rules. Not many people here have a problem with my standpoint. If you have a problem - stay away from http://tinyurl.com/datg23 .

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 19:28

Juliet....I read it right, just pullin yer leg. seems you lot in the south are well soft. lots of us here in the north barbie all year round. the sunsets and the miles and miles of untouched beache area sight to behold.



Have a nice evening out (in doors more like)

pilgrim



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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 19:30

Tiggy, liked the Lord Haw Haw and Tokyo Rose jibe, made me laugh.

regards

p

DONTY


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 20:49

DC. i think you are a control freak.

DONTY


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 20:51

I never go to your server. there was no need to go to your server. all you needed to do was copy and paste it but you needed control. If i copy something and want to share it i just post it. why dont you? control?

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
07/04/2009 21:04

RE msg 45 & 46, DONTY: > i think you are a control freak <



=> And I think I don't care what you think. Nor will I do what you tell me to do. Why don't you do it yourself next time?



And for your information: you can't copy and paste a news paper article. You need a scan(ner) and OCR software. Enjoy yourself.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 23:19

Thanks Pilgrim. Just telling it as is is!

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 23:53

Dear Mr Saddo..



The KK has long been put to bed.... months ago....he got right up your nose and he was a little fun. msg 79 on your list shows It was me and I have neved denied it. (I outed myself) No moderator or the owner of this site have taken any action as they know it was a laugh. As I said earlier take it to the top and stop trying to attract attention to you sad llittle life. Unlike you I would abide by a decisision....you just keep coming back. Not bad for an ex copper.

clayton


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Message Posted:
07/04/2009 23:57

patrick

i thought you were a manc.

only jocking mate

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 00:13

Howdy Clayton, Shhh....I am deep undercover here!



Hope all is ok? how did the reds fair out tonight then?



Hard one for the blues tomorrow.

jay76


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Posts: 532

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 00:29

Dryboak/pikey



one thing im going to say, you sad sad boy.

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 02:15

smiffy 14, tiggy 15



I do not think it works like that:



the talks don't matter, it is all over for them

you don't really have any meaningful discussions limp into year two



take the camp david accords where sinai was reunited with egypt,

this was all marked out by officials prior, as is nearly always the case:

the talks were brief very public and confirmed what was already decided



likewise past non-proliferation issues between russia and america



an exception was the 1938 munich agreement where nobody had expected a "positive" result, and a piece of paper was signed

although only because chamberlain was so very desperate to avert a war



the chances of re-unification are getting less each year

as both cypruses continue to diverge, and are hardening their positions



you'd imagine that if the two sides were to agree,

we'd know what the future holds but they thought that in 1960



for stability, my choice would a free and independent trnc

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
08/04/2009 09:45

Dear Andre_514



re msg 47



"the talks don't matter, it is all over for them "..



>>>>REALLY ?! ..<<<<



"for stability, my choice would a free and independent trnc"



>>>>Ah, a "leave things as they are" stance.. Well we aren't going to get much "support" for talks from *You*, then ! ..<<<<



" both cypruses continue to diverge, and are hardening their positions "



>>>>Not as *I* see it.. The President of the "rump" RoC and leader of the TCs (and Turkish Nationals who are referred to as "citizens" of "TRNC" ) stand a greater chance of sorting things out, at a local level, than recent players.



Seems to me you are letting you feelings cloud the facts.

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 21:16

msg 48



line 4: yes, really



lines 6/7: as a non-cypriot it would be a bloomin' cheek if I mouthed-off

off either for or against the talks with christophias and his team,

but if I were a cypriot I would've been strongly in favour of talks taking place



line 8: this is your prerogative...

you lived in cyprus while I didn't and you have probably discussed this question with cypriots which I haven't

after all they said the same about eastern germany and it reunited seamlessly with the federal republic...or did it?



so you have a blockaded turkophone north with intimate links to turkey

and a wealthy greek cypriot south with close ties to the european movement



lines 9/10/11:



is zero chance different to zero chance?



as the late professor joad would've said

"it all depends on what you mean by sorting things out"



line 12: yes

how do your feelings influence your selection of the facts?

any unbiased person would neither be "in favour" of reunification nor partition

clayton


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Posts: 1143

Message Posted:
08/04/2009 21:34

patrick

i wouldnt have paid them with washers.i think that untouchable thing went to their heads they were crap mate.all the best tonight mate hope you win.

gaz

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
09/04/2009 08:58

Sorry, Andre_514,



Your msg 49, is mostly unintelligible :( .. you are welcome to try again...



Picked out this "gem":



"any unbiased person would neither be "in favour" of reunification nor partition"



>>>> Yep, you DO want a situation - where TCs have lots of hurdles re trade, education, etc - to continue <<<<<



Any unbiased person would want a solution that ends that, surely?!





Unless they had a good reason of their own to perpetuate "isolation" ?!

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
09/04/2009 09:30

mmmmm,

i often wonder if the trnc does like being isolated?

i can remember a couple of years back when they were stating that the internet was bad for children.

keep the people stupid and you have total control.

let them be educated and you do not.

with lots of tc friends on a day to day basis it is not apparent but every now and again i hear them come out with something unbelievable. then i remind myself i am here in cyprus.

its a two way learning curve.

fire starter


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Message Posted:
09/04/2009 10:33

scribes

i guess the forums are a view from all angles.