FRANCE V CYPRUS any comments

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 03:23

The French blockade at Calais, French militants blocking ports to protest at the expense of UK enforces my decision to sell up in france and invest in NC ,ANY COMMENTS?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 03:37

Invest in anything non EU and not just Turkey or TRNC.

Look at the world as a whole. Global investments is key.









maybe!....





tootie

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 03:57

msg 2 Tootie,very wise words.



Respect Pete

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 08:59

So a dispute in France makes you want to run away? Sounds to me you could be running away for the rest of your life.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 09:00

kelly, your seriously off your head to think about investing here.

like in what??

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 10:30

If you speak French, hold a Carte Sejour I would look at the Dom Toms. Tahiti, New Caledonia, plenty of options. There is an Island French Colony off the coast of Canada, name escapes me which sounds interesting. Become a 'pied noir'!



Richard

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 11:02

Close the tunnel, send back all the apples, stop buying the butter - let the frogs stew! Move out of France - would never have moved in!

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 18:51

waddo



With that attitude I'm surprised you've been allowed in anywhere!



Richard

kellybelly


Joined: 08/03/2009
Posts: 263

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 20:58

Msg 5. firestarter,I've bought a property in NC,whats wrong with that.Can i ask you why you don't seem impressed with NC,if that is the case why don't you pack up and leave.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 21:08

Probably many want to leave but trying to sell a property here at the moment is difficult.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 21:08

kellybelly



If you'd been here ten years ago and compare the quality of life to what it is now, you'll understand firestarters cyniscism.





Richard

Middle Easter


Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 146

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 21:32

As someone who has bought houses in France (alps) & Cypus (north) I must comment..

FRANCE

I have a 2 bed winter ski/summer sports apartment in the Chamonix Valley. Yes expensive i.e 250K GBP. But the French market is stable (i.e. the banks do not do silly mortgages). Sure the locals are miserable....the're French!. But the reason why I bought was for the place not the people, it's big mountain skiing & summer biking/hiking heaven!

CYPRUS

I have a 4 bed villa in NC. Not expensive i.e. 110K GBP. No, of course the TRNC market is not stable, hence the price (+ no mortgages), but the locals are fantastic. The reason I bought was the size/location of the house I could buy, plus the amazing mountain/sea vista that Is NC. In comparison ro S. Cyprus....have people forgotten how lucky we are!!!!!



SO BUY WHERE YOU WANT TO BE! I WILL NOT SELL FOR 20 YRS, SO ALL ISSUES OF PROPERTY VALUE WILL HAVE EVENED OUT. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE RANTINGS OF FIRESTARTER & NEG. NICK - LIVE YOUR OWN LIVES..

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 21:35

WADDO -

would never have move in ( france) !!! in fact from yesterday most and tonight one i realize you have a very sense of humour - very sarcastic to people even the one helping you ! that is your problem i believe ! france is a beautiful country of course, but the country without friends means nothing !

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
16/04/2009 23:43

Sylvie,

Try not to take the world too seriously, it will end up letting you down unless you choose to walk your own path. I choose to help all people along my journey through life, no matter if they do me wrong or help in exchange. A life in the military tends to make you believe in the falibility of others and to treat all things with a certain sence of humour - if you have never been there then you will never understand and will always think as a civilian - not that there is anything wrong with that, we are all human after all.

France is a beautiful county it is true, in fact I have yet to vist a country where I can not find beauty around me. For me, it is the attitude of the French that I can not stand and would not live amongst them.

Brinsley,

They let me in the UK! But then who has the UK refused? Now of course, under the EU the have to let me in - even to France - but I don't have to go!

Take care out there people and enjoy life.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 00:09

middle easter , spot on ///////////

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 657

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 00:24

Middle Easters analysis of owning in NC is very good.



Basically I would suggest its for the long term only and definitely do not buy based on rental returns (particularly holiday rentals) as this market is fickle and there is a lot of rental accommodation and unoccupied housing at present.





Aussie

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 03:18

Middle Easter



I'll call your bluff; for my 130sq metre three bedroom flat in central Girne I will do a direct swap for one of your apartments in France, d'accord? My French bank is Banque Societe General, which shouldn't prove too much of a problem in sorting out transfers and legalities. I await your reply with interest. A la prochaine fois!





Richard

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 10:09

for me it is the attitude of certains english that will not make me to try to know them better and you seem to be one of them - nothing to do with the sense of humour - a person is a person good or bad, sensitive or not and to my point of view you are always making comments with nasty sentenses - and then you said it is a sense of humour - never mind it is over for me ! i will not answer your posts anymore !

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 10:16

middleeaster,



chamonix is a very expensive area of course but i do not know any " miserable" french there - of course there are season workers - in restaurant and in the skiing business of course there is a big difference between someone who have money and some you hasn't but it is everywhere in the world except " miserable is not the right word" that's all" i am going to my french miserable french life "

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 17:14

sylvie



Ten years ago the TRNC was a little paradise but now has another tale to tell. I kick myself for pulling out of Paris but I've dug my hole and survive.



Richard

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 04:15

Dear Middle Easter re msg 13



Your comparison of France's "stable" market



http://www.french-property.com/news/french_property_market/property_prices_france/



and banks made me wonder if you are REALLY in touch with the REAL world re the property market?



I know of folk TRYING to sell up in Normandy and in a French ski resort that CAN'T sell as the market is in free fall. May be that's why the French are miserable?!



Interestingly the "south" Cyprus banks that many (incl me) mocked for adverse credit ratings a couple of years back were prudent lenders re security and deposits required.



Your "TRNC" outlook is based on some sort of "stability" re continued TR investment . *I* don't share your positive outlook. It seems clear that there is some sort of "political" agenda to move towards leasehold - rather than freehold - re pre 74 TR/ Foreign deeds.



A lot of Israeli money was invested in such land and any attempt to "burn" such investment is likely to "backfire".

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 15:06

what i cazn see about french market today is that : flats and houses in the central cities are not goin down a all - if you want to buy in central paris today - prices are still high and they will stay - they are more demands than offers - on the opposite outside cities, prices are going down slowly but believe me it is more like people are waiting to buy because of the uncertain future !

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 15:25

Dear Sylvie re msg 23



That is not the experience of friends of mine with properties in regions who -sadly - have reduced incomes, and are having to sell up.



Anthea Turner ( a UK celeb) and her partner are having to sell their French ski lodge, too - and at a price WAY down on the market value of only a year ago.



IF you need to sell - and quick - you'd see how hard things are.



The market price is what someone will pay.... these reports were made before the credit crunch and job losses really started to bite.



I have no direct experience of the Paris property market - so I can't comment ;)



A Plus

jurgen


Joined: 20/12/2008
Posts: 77

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 22:17

Bonsoir Sylvie

j' habite à 5 km de la frontière et j'aime bien les misérables ( les français selon quelques anglais ) misérable le gâteau e Les Misérables ( le livre).

A la prochaine , Jurgen

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 22:47

jurgen,



vous avez raison, en fait certains sont envieux de ce qu'ils ignorent ! bonne soirée

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 13:28

Jurgen and Sylvie



I did not quite understand fully, but you are referring to ignorance, if anything you are the ignorant ones by posting in French. This is an English speaking board.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 13:50

come on chick, do not feel concern; there is nothing wrong against UK people in jurgen and my post : i haveseen lots of posts on this board in other language -i make the effort to write in english so sometimes little sentence like that can make people to test their knowledge in french -



if you want to know i can translate : i answer to jurgen " sometimes people are afraid of what they ignore" re : sarcastics posts in this forum - i am a polite person and wouldn't say anything bad in an other language !!!

jurgen


Joined: 20/12/2008
Posts: 77

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 21:27

Chick ,

I know this is an english speaking board and I usually write in English , I wrote a few times to Guido and Lullubell in Italian and a few times to Sylvie in French...as a practice , I never wrote something bad about the English or other people..I was just refering to " misérables " : the cake and the book ...mentioning the positive sentence of " misérables"....

Kind regards , Jurgen