Ian Tomlinson Kidney Death Punch

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:18

I wonder what the average Police (man, woman, officer, serving or, ex) think when they see that B_____D kidney punching that poor man!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:44

I love short stories. The shorter the better. But I also like to understand them. Am I the only one on this board who wonders what your lovely short story is about?!

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:47

Dutch....it is about the innocent newsvendor who died at the G20 protest in London after being pushed/punched by a police officer.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:48

It is about the man who died after an incident in London during the G20 summit. He was an innocent bystander on his way home and was needlessly attacked by the police causing him to have a heart attack, hope this as enlightened you!

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:50

Poor old Dutchy doesn't get out much! <===

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:50

I think Its about the man who was killed by police at the g20 summit. And bang out of order they were.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:51

A second post mortem has confirmed that he died from abdominal bleeding.

MimoMar


Joined: 26/01/2009
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 20:52

Now, internal abdominal bleeding.......strange after the first PM said herat attack!!!

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 21:12

the officer is being questioned , and expected to be charged with manslaughter///

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 21:21

And so he should !

I'm all for our police officers battering the work-shy soap dodgers who are attacking/provoking/spitting at them......but this guy was walking away and was no threat to anyone.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
17/04/2009 21:22

RE msg 1, MimoMar > I wonder what the average Police (man, woman, officer, serving or, ex) think when they see that B_____D kidney punching that poor man! <



=> Ah! The replies above made it clear. Thank you. And you go on wondering, MimoMar. Too bad you mixed up Cyprus44 with TheSun44.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 10:53

How did they miss the injuries during the first post mortem was this another police/authorities cover up.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 11:46

a very thought provoking subject. i shall remain silent!

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 11:55

You can bet your life, that if Ian had been wearing a pinstripe suit when passing,he wouldnt have been killed. Seems the police force now is just for the establishment.Also see the the film of that big policeman hitting the little woman,good to know protestors are punished so severely,unlike criminals.

Surely there are tests to weed out bullies at recruitment.



By the way, one wonders at the real reason for bringing out so called" anti terrorist" legislation that forbids the filming/photographing of policemen. Filming the two actions would be a criminal offence.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 11:56

The first post mortem on Ian Tomlinson, which found he died of natural causes, was conducted by a forensic pathologist once disciplined about his professional conduct by the General Medical Council.



t has emerged that the doctor had previously been reprimanded by the GMC after he released medical details about a man who died controversially in police custody.



In a second case police dropped a criminal investigation after the pathologist gave it as his opinion that the victim, a woman, had died of natural causes. A man who lived in the flat where the body was found went on to murder two other women and mutilate their bodies. He was not disciplined over that case.



One source expressed surprise that Mr Tomlinson's initial post mortem was referred to Dr Patel rather than the Forensic Pathology Services, a body of nine independent forensic pathologists, which usually deals with suspicious deaths in London and the home counties.



A senior medical source told The Daily Telegraph th

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 12:13

inbred corruption in all police forces.it will always be there and you will never stop it ,they will always look after there own,until that is there own turn on there own!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 21:17

Msg 15, Littlenige: For X sake, stop copying and pasting here - preserve that for your own board. Just provide the link, if you think it's worth reading. Or, even better, write an original text yourself.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 22:07

D.C. Whats up with you of late.you seem to be digging at Nige a bit.??

















Spider,x

bondi


Joined: 12/07/2007
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 22:10

I wonder how many PMs this pathologist has carried out and shown that the deceased had died of natural causes? when in fact, it could be quite the opposite - why is he still practising? Many questions remain unanswered however whatever the findings of the IPCC should this pathologist still be working?



The footage of Ian Tomlinson walking nonchalently away from any of the action, minding his own business ,then being forcefully shoved to the ground was quite appalling. With cctv installed everywhere you walk, mobile phone cameras and media photographers about nothing can be covered up now and we are being shown, on the television, what happens when you go to one of these demos. I see that a third complaint has been referred to the IPCC - no details coming through on BBC as yet but I wonder what the footage will show there.



It must be very frustrating to face a huge protesting crowd but their training to deal with these situations, should have shown on the day - not this rumble

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
18/04/2009 22:16

Spider

DC and Nige really are the best of friends so I am led to believe.

AJ

breezyboy


Joined: 14/05/2007
Posts: 1179

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 18:46

The officer concerned had covered up the numbers on his uniform to avoid identification. That must be a matter on which his superiors must be questioned. They are condoning , in this sad case manslaughter , or is it murder if you go out knowing you are going to commit a crime and try to avoid recognition?????????

rocking


Joined: 05/11/2008
Posts: 421

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 23:15

My husband was a met officer, in fact the first Turkish Cypriot in the met. He has been punched, kicked spat at, very badly burnt and a few other things and I can say now if I had a couple of thousand hooded pissed up louts charging at me I would certainly take out my asp and defend myself. I am sick to death of all the media screaming about this. Two days later a police officer was run down and killed by someone escaping capture, his death was a couple of inches reported in the paper.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 06:08

Hi Rocking . It does'nt make it right though . While i do agree that policing it is a thankless dangerous job . They are trained professionals and know the implications and dangers of the job before hand . I accept they have a lot to contend with all the violence and aggression against them { not acceptable by any standards } But on this occasion , and from the footage i saw . It did'nt look to me that he was p****d or charging anyone .

Regards , Simbas

chick


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 323

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 11:33

Rocking Msg 22



You are 100% right.

kiwikid


Joined: 18/08/2008
Posts: 496

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 11:39

I know it doesn't make it right that this man died, but after watching the video it just didn't sit right with me the way he was acting, if you are in the middle of a full on riot, and there is a row of police in full riot gear with dogs barking would you take a slow wander just a few feet in front of them, if you watch the footage it seemed strange to me, it looked like he was going for a Sunday stroll. If it were me I and had nothing to do with what was going on I would have had my head down and walking as fast as possible to where I had to go.

From what I saw yes the policeman did give him a good push, but in a healthy man that would not have killed him.