Russian traveliing to TRNC from Larnaca

proger1



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 14:17

Hello folks, Could someone please help to verify wether it is possible for my wife who carries a Russian passport to fly into Larnaca and then travel over the check point to North Cyprus. I have still to confirm about visa requirements for her but if I get a visa to South Cyprus will it be a problem to then travel North. Much appreciation for anyone who helps with advice.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
19/04/2009 14:32

Hi



YES



She can apply for a Tourist visa - and if you a an EU national or other non Visa requiring national you should fill in a form that declares you are assuming responsibility





The Visas to Russians were free - but if they 're not it will cost c. 10 Euros



This Visa will allow your wife to travel freely back from North to South



Be sure to get a Visa covering the length of your stay.



My Wife is Russian and we lived in Limassol - so we have PLENTY of experience ;)



If you want to take this offline - you can check my email address in my profile.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 14:36

Visa info



http://www.cyprusvisa.eu/cyprus-short-stay-visa-requirements.html



Where will you be applying for here visa from and I'll try to locate the appropriate web site.



Be sure to go through passport control AFTER your wife at Larnaca , and bring proof that you are married, etc.



Then IF you wife lost her passport, you will have less hassle



Mark

Coachie



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 15:42

Mmmm../I have always photocopied my passport for just such reason. the british consulate willaccept it toget you home.....

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 16:24

Hi Coachie re msg 4



Sadly, being a non EU citizen, my Wife needs a little more than a photocopy of her passport to "open doors" in VISA requiring naations ;)

Coachie



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 21:43

MMMMMMMMM ..I meant it to be if she had lost her passport she had proof of who she is,when she went to the embassy to see about a new one,or in my case,the embassy would accept it and endorse it to get me back to UK.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/04/2009 23:13

Dear Coachie, re msg 6



..and *I* meant if she lost it in a third country - e.g. Cyprus ( let's say you live in UK, but were Russian ) - then getting a back to the UK is more complicated. ;)

proger1



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 11:02

Thanks Mark and others, I would probably take you up on contacting you off page but I don't have enough posts yet to see members mail addresses. I read somewhere that because our daughter is under 18 she does not need any visa, can you confirm or is this just for TRNC ??

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 11:18

Hi Prodger1



re msg 8



Your daughter most def DOES need a visa to come to the Rep of Cyprus - assuming she's Russian - and not an EU passport holder



my email: cyprus44@uktvabroad.com

breezyboy


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 18:15

Easier to fly Turkish via Istanbul into Ercan.

We have a friend travelling that way from Dnieperpetrovsk, my wife's home town and it has been so simple. I understand that Turkish have opened up more routes to Russia. Price and times were all good for her.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 18:47

Dear BreezyBoy re msg 10



Unfortunately, this poster is coming from a destination that makes LCA the best entry point for logistics reasons - they aren't coming via Russia ( or Ukraine ! )

Coachie



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 20:59

MMMMMMMM..assumed because she was married to you she was a UK citizen,hence she had a UK passport.Its not often I am right but Itseems I was wrong again.No doubt you have all the angles covered as they say..

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 21:16

You must ask for the maximum 90 days at point of entry otherwise it is up to the discretion of the officer to do whatever. Good luck



Richard

proger1



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 21:44

Hello again to all, It seems that I should be good to go on the visa for entry into Larnaca thanks to the advice from Mark ( Thanks again MMMMMMMMM)

I would like to ask though, when they get the stamp for going north is it on the visa or the passport as I don't want to many hassles on the way back.

rod28


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Posts: 39

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 21:58

You can normally ask for your passport not to be stamped but i don't think thats a problem any more. Will be there may 12-18th may. will give you my home e-mail. shesleva tvarich

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 21:58

Either or, ask for the official slip of paper to be stamped or your passport, up to you but keep the separate paper in your passport.



Richard

proger1



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:30

Thanks Rod but you could have just picked up the phone and called me. Say hello to the clan when you get back. Might be able to convince the wife to do a quick trip mid may and meet you there.

To all others, sorry to be asking the same questions that have probably been asked a hundred times but if I get anyhting wrong the wife will kill me, thanks again.

guinness


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:50

RE: Msg 13.



With respect I would not ask for a 90 day visa if you do not need it. It triggers questions and attention of a senior officer etc. etc. etc. Even if your wife's British married name is in her passport. Best to get a record on her arrivals and departures in 'the system' before asking for more days on the visa. HTH



guin

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:53

Why not ask for longer?

I flew in the first time with my wife (she is Russian) immigration saw that we both had the same name on our passports and gave us 90 days with a smile and a sincere wish that we enjoy our stay.

guinness


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 23:08

Point taken TS but I am sure we have all had the problem which varies according to the individual we have to deal with. Some smile and some certainly do not as I am sure we have all found out. On my wife's last entry the officer made a point of telling her that she only qualified for 30 days despite the passport bearing her married name and UK leave to enter visa on show. Its the old poking bear in eye with stick for no purpose conundrum !



Guin

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 23:38

guinness



With due respect to your reply Msg 18, not so long ago tourists were arriving at Ercan for a six week holiday to only discover at a later date that their passport had only been stamped for thirty days! Fines were imposed to those that didn't realise! It was a simple enough matter to rectify by going to the local Police station prior to the stamped date of departure but for others it was a great boost for the exchequer!



Richard

proger1



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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 23:49

Sorry to say guys that your assumption that we have the same name is incorrect. For other reasons which involve my wifes daughter it was easier to keep her maiden name on her and my daughters passport while we live in Dubai. Its probably going to make things harder when we move but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

proger1



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:02

Sorry to say guys that your assumption that we have the same name is incorrect. For other reasons which involve my wifes daughter it was easier to keep her maiden name on her and my daughters passport while we live in Dubai. Its probably going to make things harder when we move but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:09

Hi proger1



My good lady and I have often crossed from the "rump" RoC "northwards" and we, too, still have different names on our passports - probably for the same Russian related "crap" ;)



We ALWAYS got 90 days ! We never stayed more than 2 days - the "TRNC" didn't seem to care if we were married or not - and we never brought our marriage certificate !



Udachi !

proger1



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:15

Cheers Mark, Guinness and others, It seems that it will be very similar to travelling around the middle east. There is a sytem somewhere and some officials know it, some officials know about it and some just depend on the mood of the day. I will get everything done as close to correct as I can and then trust in the travel gods and my wit and charm. I'll take as much advice as possible and carry marriage cert as well, you never can tell and trying to sell the move to Cyprus idea to the wife might get a bit of a stumble if we can't even get across the border

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:20

Why bother?? fly into Ercan

proger1



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:27

Coming from Dubai costs twice the price and I end up with a 10 hour wait at Istanbul one way and a 6 hour wait the other, but reasonable comment. Larnaca is better for us if it can be done

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:30

Reasonable reason, 10 hour wait. Could try to knock the flights in with an Istanbul weekend stay, Emirates must be able to organise that use your Emirates Gold card and spend some of your airmiles.

proger1



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:49

Already using the Silver (I work for a cheap company) Card to upgrade to business. I am trying to impress the wife remember

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 17:02

Paul,

your wife doesn't need a visa to enter RoC if she is accompanying you - in case

that you are a citizen of the EU. Your passports and an international marriage

document are enough. This is because of an EU-wide agreement that allows

close relatives to stay with EU-citizens wherever they want in EU.

We tried it last year - I'm German and my wife is Ukrainian - and we passed

the Larnaca controls without any problems, same as the NC "borderline".

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 17:51

Paul,

if you're interested I will look for the number and the date of issue of

this special Eu-regulation. The regulation is valid for your daughter,too

( if you are citizen of EU and you are travelling togethher).

Last year the embassy of RoC in Berlin confirmed the validity of the

EU-regulation for my wife and my stepson, who also is Ukrainian.I still

got the confirmation somewhere.



Regards,Rene

Geoff


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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 20:03

Who is Paul?? I thought the guy's name on the forum is Proger1.

Anyway, is he an EU citizen? O what?

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 20:40

The p in proger1 is for paul. O what ?

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 21:03

Thanks for the clarification guys, yes the P is for paul. I couldn't come up with any fancy names so I just used my own, the 1 at the end is just to make me feel special.

Danke for the info Reiner, I have the number now for the RoC embassy in Dubai and I'll give them a call next week but if you come up with any other useful info I would much appreciate it.

My only worry is that I have never legally registered my wifes daughter as a dependent so I will need to get that checked.

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:17

Rene, I would be interested in seeing that too please as I am ball and chained to a Russian too.

Cheers

Mike

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:29

Paul,

the EU regulation is 2004/38. Wife/daughter also need unlimited visas

for - I think I'm right- England (GB?) in your case.

If you got the marriage document and a document that your daughter

is the daughter of your wife (sorry, obscure sentence) I'm sure it will work. I'd recommend to contact the RoC embassy and get comfirmation by email so you can print it and take it with you for showing it at LCA if needed.

Althoug all my contacts with the embassy were in German language, the posts might help you - I've seen you know a little german. My mobilephone is 0049 172 4043444. Send me sms or call me up and I'll send back my email adress.

By the way - When will you come to NC ? We will be there next time last week of May and first week of June. Wives seem to speak the same language. We got a nice villa in Catalkoy, perhaps we can meet.

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:32

Ball and Chain huh Mike, thats the way to keep up diplomatic relations with the better half !! of course I would have to explain that to my wife and I am pretty sure I would get sent to bed with no supper for getting it wrong

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:43

Mike,

pity you - I've got two balls. The invitation for contacting is on for you and your wife, too !

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:46

Thanks Renee, our place is in Alsancak, fortunately my wife understands my sense of humour very well.

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:52

C'mon now Paul years ago I used to call my wife and tell her I was in Cyclone now how brave was that??

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:52

Mike,

do you have the luck to live in NC all the year ? Then it does'nt matter how

many balls you've got - but you should beware of chains,even the golden ones.



regards, priwjet,

Rene

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:55

Nope sorry I still work for a living so I am always on the move, we bought our place in Jan and can only get back as and when. Trying to get back within the next 3 weeks or so.

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 22:55

Reiner, Thanks for the info and the invitation but we are not planning to go until the end of June however thats for a visit and we will probably move there in August if all goes well.

As for the german, saying "Danke" does not an understanding of german make.

Ich spreche bissen deutche. ich forgessa ales int 15 yar

I can always try and use google translate for the 90% I know that I won't understand.

I'm offshore at the moment and can't sms or internatinal call but my e-mail is proger1@hotmail.com. I see we both need the 50 posts to see e-mail addresses

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:00

OK, let's stay in contact. I'm absolutely sure the benamed EU regulation will help you at LCA airport.

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:13

Paul,

I'll send you the German documents, but in my aspect it is the right way

to contact the local RoC embassy with the "Zauberwort" (magic word) EU regulation No. 2004/38. I'm sure it will work.

In our case the German airline TUI refused a booked flight for my wife cause her having no visa. We discussed the situation at HAJ (Hannover) airport,

but I had to do the trip without her. She followed next day with Turkish

Airlines via IST (Istanbul).We went to court and did win. The RoC embassy verified her needing no visa and TUI had to pay 1.200 EURO compensation.

Regards

Rene

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:18

That sounds very promising but as you say I will check with the embassy and get all the relevent docs to take with me. Thanks again

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:19

I did not need a visa taking my wife in through Ercan, but I was told I needed a visa to take her to the South. My wife has both Russian and Kyrgyz passports

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:25

I have just googled the EU reg and although I will have to read it a couple of times for my meager mentality to fully comprehend all the big words it looks exactly as you said Reiner, Balshoy Spasibo.

Ercan will probably be the future transit point for the wife Mike but coming from Dubai for the vacation trip is a hell of a lot cheaper through RoC.

I have had great advice from several people but after 7 years of middle east legislations and all the ensuing hickups I will follow Reiners idea and go to the RoC embassy but keep in touch

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:28

Dear Renee,



re all your msg re the famous EC/2004/38 Directive





I am in the processing of arranging a "settlement" with the RoC



Unless Paul's wife is resident - already - in another EU member state this tactic will not work, I believe



May *I* call you ;)

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:31

Paul, thst's the way mate go to the embassy, and get the script, better than finding out the process too late. Hopefully we can hook up for a couple of cold ones out there sometime.

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:33

Mike,

that's right - at ECN she doesn't need any visa- as long as they rule it that way.

But for entering RoC the EU regulation is valid, so if you're together and

you got an international marriage document Vinera can enter RoC from outside

or from TRNC anyway, as long as she's got an unlimited visa for the EU country you are citizen of.



Regards,Rene

proger1



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:38

Don't let my wife find out that I said this but i am always up for a cold one or 12. My e-mail is further back in the posts (43) if you want to send me a mail but I am enjoying the forum so much I will probably be on it pretty constantly

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:39

Ah that is it Rene my missus although we have been together 7 years still only uses Brit visitors visas she currentlt has a five year one, we move around a lot.

renelapin



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Message Posted:
22/04/2009 23:49

Mark,

surely you can contact me. I presented my mobile because of not wanting

to bring my email adress to the complete forum public. Can't you see my email adress by clicking my member dates ? You should have postings enough. Otherwise see above.

This EU directive is valid, but few people know it. RoC embassy gave answer

to me within 2 days to confirm validity. They are seriously concerned not to

get in conflict wiith EU rules, especially when being proofed by Germans, Britains or other "heavy weighted" EU nacionalitys.



Regards, priwjet na dschenzina,



Rene

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:01

No probs Paul your email is also on your profile ;-)

proger1



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:08

I thought it was Mike but unless you have 50 posts you can't see it, your OK but Ren has a few to go

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:12

It's not a problem mate you can post anything on here within reason of course.

As you can probaly tell when you read some of the threads.

proger1



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:21

There is a mention by Ren of "an international marriage document" what is one of those. I have a marriage certificate that the british embassy accepted for getting a visit visa for the wife to enter the UK, will that do or should i get some special document????

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:25

That's enough mate I just have a marriage cert/booklet that we got when we got married at zacks in Kyrgyzstan, the brit embassy accepted it the UAE accepted it for residency so other embassies should.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 00:33

Dear Renee



This is Cyprus - I know the wording of this directive off by heart and have driven Solvit, the EU commission , the RoC govt ombudsman CRAZY.. as the the RoC immigration Police were and still are NOT clued up.



My Wife has been stopped 11 times and delayed by immigration - sometimes even with me and a copy of your Directive in English and in Greek !



I even had a letter from their Minister of Interior - "not my boss" comes the reply ...



Non EU passport holders with EU residency SHOULD apply for a VISA - it is Free ...



Putting legal rights into practise on the "green line" or at Larnaca airport? Forget it.. I'm awaiting an offer - still -even though the RoC admit they were wrong.





We should talk - I sent you an email...

Geoff


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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 10:51

OK Paul, your wife has Russian and Kyrgyz passports, but what passport (or passports) do YOU have??

Geoff

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 13:39

OK Geoff,



"your wife has Russian and Kyrgyz passports, but what passport (or passports) do YOU have??"



That was apertaining to my wife, oh and I have an EU passport of course being a Brit.

Geoff


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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 17:18

Re Msg #62: Fine, you should be having few problems then.

Good Luck,

Geoff.

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 17:25

Geoff,



We have no problems at all, we fly in to Ercan and they give my wife a visa without any problems.

Have you got your wires crossed here?

Suggest you read the whole thread.

Marisa


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Posts: 545

Message Posted:
23/04/2009 18:58

Hi Paul, if your wife wants to discuss these or any other questions with me ( I am Russian married to a Brit, living permanently in NC), will be glad.

proger1



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 20:02

Thanks for the offer Marisa, my email is proger1@hotmail.com If you drop me a mail I will forward it to Liubov (my wife) and i am sure she would find it helpful. I don't want to put her mail address here as I am sure you will understand.

Thanks again

renelapin



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 21:59

Mark,

I sent you an email with my email adress and my German landline number.

We had some bad experiences at LCA airport, too - but concerning the

check in crew when we left.

Make sure: Your wife has got the international standard marriage cert (

I can send you ours as a pdf) and the UNLIMITED Visa for GB in her passport.

Contact the embassy ( via email) for confirmation and ask them for the

needed documents. In our case it worked !



Waiting for your call,



Rene

renelapin



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 22:03

To make it clear:



We are discussing entering RoC, Ercan is another matter, much easier !



Regard, Rene

renelapin



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 22:05

Sorry, I lost an "s"



Regards, Rene ( trying to get 50 posts, ha ).

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 23:54

Hi Rene !



Good chat ... sorry it was short but I am really busy with work and the call to supper was most welcome



Interestingly, most EU countries - like CY( RoC) provide ID cards for EU residents and their dependent- and YES - if you have these this "works" in lieu of a visa - esp if you carry a certified copy of the marriage cert in English



Sadly those with residency in a third party EU state.. it's a visa..



Lastly - if you are a UK citizen - DON'T try to enter the UK using this route - whilst it SHOULD be OK, normally the immigration man with want to see an EEA family permit - issued FOC. :(





Getting into the RoC legally is a doddle compared to the UK :(

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/04/2009 23:56

A quick guide to this Directive for those moving around the EU - it is relevant to the RoC !



http://ec.europa.eu/commission_barroso/barrot/archive/guide_2004_38_ec_en.pdf

renelapin



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 00:02

Gaining for 50 - made a lomg distance call to mmmm in ireland - believe me.

I'm not an consultant for checking you to NC via LCA: You gotta a make it through the world - if you can. (Van Morrison) If you can,...................

renelapin



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 00:20

So (there was a great LP of Peter Gabriel named same, try to cross the border.

The way you shout is the way it comes back. The Germans got the Jews they killed and Stalin killed the Famerso and Israel killed the Palestensians and so on

and so on. and so on..........................

renelapin



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 00:29

Excuse Me - SO is thr name ot that Peter Gabriel LP.

proger1



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 00:32

I have to admit that I am now truly lost with this thread Rene. I think i am much more understanding of the visa rules thanks to yourself and Marky Mark but the Peter Gabriel stuff has just blown all my circuits

renelapin



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 00:32

bla bla bla.



You all sleep very well, even offshore



Rene

proger1



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 01:10

Thenks Rene, but if I do they will fire me, I'm on nightshift

renelapin



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 22:10

Hi Paul,

hope you didn't sleep. Any progresses in your case ?



Regards Rene

proger1



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 22:22

Hello again Rene,

I am returning to Dubai tomorrow to hopefully start the ball rolling. I did write to the Embassy in Dubai but they must be too busy to even reply.

I have been looking at going in via Turkey instead but although it only costs about $100 more per person it also adds about 8 hours to the journey time.

I'll get something sorted though.

Thanks again

rod28


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Message Posted:
28/04/2009 07:27

Hi Paul. Yes connections via Doha/Dubai not very good ,this time i have a 6hr and 7 hr stopover in IST. (Better than 2 days at new year!!!!!!! )but you will save a lot of hassle,some time to/from airport and if you plan to move you can start building up TK points!

I have e mailed you, speak soon

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
04/05/2009 23:10

Just an update for those who were advising me on this. As usual the difficulties of the middle east system along with a slightly complicated Cypriot system means that I can not get a visa for RoC for my daughter or wife. Need to get a company letter for the wife to prove she is not trying to gain a job in RoC but unfortunately she has just stopped working due to pregnancy and my daughters residence visa has less than 6 months left so that is not acceptable either. Going to go through Turkey now but even that seems to be complicated. Have to go to Abu Dhabi office to get letter for entry to Ercan but they promised that if I have return tickets and hotel bookings and prove I have enough money to last a week it can be done in 1 hour. Will find out on Wednesday and if all goes well will be in Girne on 15th. Those of you who have experienced the middle east will probably be thinking " that sounds about normal"

renelapin



Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 136

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 23:00

you want to know the way it works - me and my wife came in to LCA 2 weeks ago, I with my german ID, she with her Ukrainian passport and we had an intetnational marriage certifacition with us. It took the GC customs officer less than a minute to let us in . He knew about that. Why dont you trust me having conrete experience?

I just wanna give advice to the many people having the same problem.



regards,rene

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 23:20

Its not that I don't trust you at all Rene, we have some major differences in our situations thats all.

I have already been and returned with my wife last month through Turkey. After getting what I was told was the required paperwork it was never looked at or asked for so you are probably correct that I could travel through Larnaca with no issues but after being advised by the ROC consulate that I would need to get a visa for the wife I don't want to take the chance.

I think the main difference is that because we were married in Dubai the russian consulate will not agree to an international wedding certificate unless we get remarried in Russia. The british embassy were fine but you need both consulates.

It is a mute point now however because the wife and daughter will be coming from Russia next time and there is a direct flight to Istanbul from Kazan. It would be a 24 hour train journey to get a larnaca flight.



I hope your advice does help others though, Thanks for the effort

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
13/06/2009 23:33

Hi Prodger



re msg 81



OMG - Here we go again.. poorly trained CY embassy Staff?



The rules MUST the same WHEREVER you are coming from.



If you are an EU citizen and you can demonstrate that you are married and you / your partner has a child - they HAVE to be admitted - visa or not.



A Visa is preferable and SHOULD be issued for NOUGHT - Gratis - for non EU family members of EU dependants.