What would happen if.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:27

the current talks reach an impasse?



Any ideas, anyyone willing to speculate?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:33

I guess it will stalemate Bill.It will be interesting to see what unfolds next xxxx

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:34

Well No1 I think something is afoot ... all will be known and made clear at the end of the year...a little bird told me

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:45

Come on Dee, I can't wait that long......spill the beans )

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:51

Bill..If you and others who live in the North are worried about losing your properties,Why do you want unification to succeed? Surely you would be better off staying as you are ie two states,which would secure your property rights and dispel your fears.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:53

Hi Coachie. I've not said that I want unification to succeed. In fact, personally, I'd rather it stayed as it was.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 17:58

re msg 1



Well, what ARE the scenarios?



1/ TR annexes"TRNC"



2/ a deal is agreed by politicians - but declined by voters



3/ Mr Talat stands down , or is not re-elected before an agreement and a new ""TRNC" must be recognised as a state" precursor to any talks candidate becomes spokesman.



Whatever the scenario... Turkey would continue to be liable for property appropriation if it continued to be viewed as the effective power behind any "TRNC" "govt"..



ANYONE who thinks this isn't true - look at the period 2004- 2009 - the "TRNC" yes to Annan didn't change ECHR findings re property .. The UN Security council Resolution re "TRNC" legitimacy wont get overturned by China / Russia - unless there IS an agreement.



"TRNC" will continue in limbo - but TC citizens - and I mean REAL citizens - not TR mainlanders - remember the EU does NOT interfere with a state's ( and that is the RoC) rules on citizenship... ( check out the Russian non-citizens of Latvia / Estonia)

Amber


Joined: 26/09/2008
Posts: 561

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 18:00

Dee,



Dont leave us in suspense like that!! on a purely selfish note I would like to know what way it may go so I know - do I need to save a fortune for animals to go in quarantine when I do go back to UK or will the North be in the EU??

Littlenige



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Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 18:06

2 state solution same as ireland ??

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 21:09

Sorry Bill I obviously mis understood you.Iapologise..

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:20

No need to apologize Coachie. I know you're a Gentleman.

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:34

The recession will continue to effect both north & south. Both will suffer greatly. Would a solution help both sides out of it?

Meanwhile UK disillusioned expats on both sides will continue to pack up/sell up and leave as quickly as they can. This will add to the recession. The tourism industry will continue to decline. The building industry will collapse. What will both sides governments do to help? Very little going on previous history.

What pressure will the UN, EU, US, Greece & Turkey bring to bear on the respective sides? Again very little.

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:44

Wheres that bloody rope i cant stand it any longer,

Paul.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
20/04/2009 22:46

Thats it rtddci just look on the bright side ?



Paul, don't do it mate its not worth it

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:31

Dear Nige, re msg 9



"2 state solution same as ireland ??"



not on the cards of any UN / EU plan ..



1 state - bi-zonal, federated .. for sure.. ;)

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:37

If things don't change, then they will stay the same.



So has the election results made any difference?



I'm sorry if I'm being really stupid.



P

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 00:45

P

Don't worry, there are a lot more others that are posting at the moment that will end up looking far more stupid (not that you are by the way)

AJ

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
21/04/2009 04:03

Dear AJ, re msg 17



Please give us the benefit of your wisdom - that we might prevent such stupidity .... !