Ryanair introduce 'Fat Tax'

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 12:28

Ryanair have announced this morning they are introducing a 'Fat Tax' basically what that means is, if your 'waist' touches the arm rest on each side of the seat, you are charged more.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/apr/22/ryanair-obese-fat-tax

ladyjessic


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 12:37

Hi britvic how are you



so britvic as long as your waste smaller than your hips then all ok, i think ryan air really should re think as this is ridiculas all these taxes they keep introducing i am suprised that anyone would even want to fly with them.



why dont they just say only buisness comuters wanted on there flights with just hand luggage it would save a lot of time and then people would not get ripped off.



there flight might be advertised cheap but in the end they work out more expensive than any other airline.



cant get on other site to submit take care L.J.

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 12:42

Hi Loraine, Hope you are well.

I don't think this will work at all personally, so when it doesn't work what will they think of next for extra 'tax'?

kavenkoy


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Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 12:49

its just excuse for more charges and allready insufficient size seats.



i dont suppose anybody over say 6ft 2" would get a automatic free upgrade to extra legroom seats ?.....no way would they .



just another marketing ploy so people talk about ryan air



kav

hattikins


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 12:52

An absolute load of rubbish which would never be allowed. Just a publicity stunt.

ladyjessic


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:15

I FEEL SORRY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT THE AVERAGE SIZE AND WEIGHT AS IM SURE THEY WILL SOON START CHARGING US FOR EXCESS WEIGHT HOPE THEY GOT GOOD SET OF SCALES AS IF YOUR SMALLER THAN AVERAGE SIZE DO YOU GET A REFUND. OOPPSS SORRY CAPS ON L.J.

ladyjessic


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:18

How many of us if any are of normal size and weight and how can they even start and decide whats what this is too ridiculas for eords do they want to stay in business doesnt seem like it. L. J.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:24

Will they be measuring your waist at passport control or when you check your luggage in?

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:36

I once had a terrible flight due to an obese passenger next to me.



I was in a window seat and the obese lady next to me couldn't put the armrests down, I was crushed against the window for 5 hours. The passenger in the aisle seat was continually forced into the aisle and kept on getting bashed by the trolleys. My food had to be served from the row in front.



I started to realise that if there was an emergency, I would have a real problem in getting out.



Should I have got a refund?



hattikins "never be allowed"?



Air New Zealand has had a policy for years to cope with passengers with a 'Unique' seating requirement, and South Western in the USA have had a policy for 28 years! A number of other Airlines around the world have similar polices, some operating small planes actually having a weight/size limit for safety reasons.



You have to think of other passengers as well.



http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/cos_qa.html

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:51

Why don't they make the seats wider, instead of trying to cram everyone in. They could in fact have a section of, say about 16 seats, where the larger people could sit in comfort.

Dusterbruce


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Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 13:58

Imagine a situation where a passenger of 20 stone is charged the same ticket price as me at 10 stone, but I have 7kg excess baggage for which I am charged extra.



Is this fair?

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 14:02

Bill,



because a UK to Ercan return would start at £650! ;-(



Having said that, KTHY do have extra leg room seats at the front, ... these seem to be reserved for overweight Cabin Crew and their families/friends.



You can get access to these seats if you are registered as a 'Repeat Victim'.









Sorry,...



that should have read 'Frequent Flier'!!





Rob

ladyjessic


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Posts: 92

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 14:12

Hi All i totally agree cant say that i have had many comfortable flights on any airlines some flight worse than a cattle market most airlines are only concerned about money and some times i wonder if safety ever comes into it. In the case of ryan air charging quid for toilet i think it might be worth paying the quid to sit in the toilet the whole flight. Last year i was charged 330 quid excess luggage on top of my flight even though i had phoned airline and explained situation as if you inform them there is a charge so you can take excess luggage but the message never got to the book in desk so you can imagine i was none too happy they just take the money and then charge even more so there procedures really are not worth following L. J.

Quarmby


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Posts: 975

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 14:56

Well done, about time too!

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:10

I don't think they will actually measure anyone's waist. In Florida and most theme park nowadays they have a kind of 'mock' seat if you don't fit into it you don't go on the ride! A far cry from 'you must be this high' to 'you can only be this wide'!

Maybe something like this will be introduced?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:16

Make them lay down in the aisles !! )

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:22

message 16, I think that is a health and safety issue!

neilhodgin


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:29

eat less!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:40

Noteworthy advice is not easily given to people who are unequally controlled.

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:44

MrO"Leary could end up doing a GeraldRatner if he is not careful.You remember Ratner the High St.Jeweller of a few years ago.Asked about the Quality of some of his items priced at £4.99p,He replied" for that sort of money you only get crap".He went bankrupt within 6months..If you complain about flight prices now,just imagine what they would be like if they took a few rows out to make it possible for every one to travel in comfort..Double what you pay now..Economics my dears. More bums on seats ,whatever their size,fill planes,therefore keeping down the price. Ask yourself,"Why are we still paying fuel surcharges when the price of fuel is down by 50%"...Why do airlines charge for baggage,and some do not.Thomas Cook only allow 15kg,and charge for anything over that,nice little earner that one is. You have to look at as much unfo as you can to see where the best deals are...

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:58

Hi Coachie, hope you are well, Message 18, that's a little uncharitable.

Naas26


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 15:59

Michael O Leary and Ryanair have achieved exactly what they were looking for everybody talking about them and mostly how cheap their flights are. I have to say a flight to London from Dublin would have cost you an average months wages about 20 / 25 years ago (so I am told) but I recently booked a flight to Gatwick and it only cost me €65 and one to Glasgow and it cost me €25 Ryanair have changed the face of travel for the better

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:07

There was a flight to Larnaca from Manchester for the 22/04 for £49.99 with Thompsonfly, now that is cheap!

keithcaley



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Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:08

Vicky,

They could make the aeroplane doorway 'just' the right size, so if you can't get through the door, - well, you can't get on the plane, and that's that!

One thing is certain - I'd have to walk everywhere

Keith.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:09

Wonder what they charge to join the mile high club xxx

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:17

Lilli - if your'e overweight and want to join the mile high club, they double the fares )

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:18

What happens if you've got 'wind', and your stomache is temporarily expanded?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:20

I feel sorry for the drug smugglers - they won't be able to swallow the condom's filled with drugs.



You've got to also feel sorry for the Columbian economy, they are going to really suffer the worst. )

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:22

Keith, Message 24, they would take your fare and then turn you away because you couldn't fit through the door.......................................................No refund, clause in the contract!

Lilli! Behave. lol

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:23

Message 27, take windeeze LOL

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:35

.....One thing is certain - I'd have to walk everywhere..........





Keith, or learn to fly - start flapping your arms )

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:37

Keith, take Red Bull..................................It gives you wings, and helps with the bloating!

japeal



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Posts: 1052

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:46

I am in the obese size, I can fit into seats without 'over filling' into next seat, My gripe is wth families that cannot or will not control rowdy/rude kids. I know everyone is going or returning from holidays but there is no need to riun everyboy else's trip!

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:51

japeal.....I agree with you. I can't understand some of these parents the way they let there children scream and shout and run up and down the aisles. It's the same old story - no parental control.

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:52

....................................................and kick the back of your seat for 4 hours!

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 16:54

What about if someone is pregnant with triplets?



Why are Ryanair charging double seating for men who weigh more than 20 stone, but for women, any who weigh more than 15 stone? I may be rubbish at maths, but doesn't that give a man of 5'8" height FIVE extra stone over a woman also 5' 8" in height? To charge £1 for using a toilet is unconscionable, that would encourage people with a weak bladder to cut down on their liquids on a longish journey (though we are all told to keep well hydrated in flight), this never ending greed on the part of businesses is indefensible. Cheap airline or not, I would never use them, their moral compass has gone awry.

fire starter


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Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 17:25

i bet ryanair don't have any flights to the usa,lol.

twoexpats


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Posts: 189

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 17:35

flights to USA might be Ok but they would have a problem with flights from USA

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 17:39

fire starter, message 37 -- thats funny

cooper


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 18:07

I guess the tip is, lose the pounds or it'll cost you pounds !

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 18:56

They would make a fortune with flights from USA!

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 19:08

Do Anorexic's get discounts?

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 19:16

I think a refund would be in order RobnJo, or at least extra baggage!

Agnes


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Posts: 81

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 19:17

Cant say I blame them! I for on am a bit fed up (being thin) being charged the same as someone twice my weight, never mind parents paying the same for some children.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 21:43

If Ryanair carry on he will be flying Hercules Transports and charging freight rates for the Larger passenger.I do not suppose for one moment that a largeperson likes sitting in a cramped seat next to a "normal" passenger,nearly crushing them.I would think they feel a bit embarrassed...but as usual the fair paying public will put up with it..

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:04

Hiya Vitbric,How the devil are you M"dear..I looked at that thomson flight some while ago,and when you are finished with all the add on,s it isnt that cheap.Only 6 weeks to go and I shall be across to sample the delights and dislikes of the TRNC.Shall certainly Take other half to GUIDO,S for a meal and see what all the fuss is about..



Lilli ..If you read this thread book me a table for Two on the 10th June 7pm.



Catchyou later Vicky.Hows "Arry now adays...

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:16

Arry's their now Coachie, went last Saturday! Going again in June when your there. Hope you are well

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:23

Did anyone mention that more correctly Ryanair are say they are THINKING about introducing this tax...



I wonder if it is tongue in cheek - and free publicity ..



Anyway - you can vote here:



http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=apr&story=gen-en-220409

britvic



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:26

It was on the New this morning 6 M's, said they had already done a poll!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:27

and it's STILL running...



http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news.php?yr=09&month=apr&story=gen-en-220409



Have YOUR say ..

britvic



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Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:44

29% - Excess fees for very overweight passengers,

25% - €1 for toilet paper – with O’Leary’s face on it,

24% - €3 to smoke in a converted toilet cubicle,

14% - Annual subscription to access Ryanair.com,

8% - €2 “corkage” fee for passengers who bring their own food onboard.

Yeah!

Esentepe7


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Posts: 34

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 22:48

Message 25

With BA it's free if you are a frequent flyer

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:00

.....and in first class you get to lay down

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:02

“Over 100,000 passengers logged on to ryanair.com to take part in our competition and almost one in three (over 30,000) think that very large passengers should be asked to pay a fat tax.



“With passengers voting overwhelmingly for a ‘fat tax’ we are now asking them to suggest which format the charge should take.



How could 29% (that is twenty nine)!!!!!!!!!!!! be called judged as "overwhelmingly" - it isn't even fifty percent, not even half the voters agree!!!!!!!!!!!! and at the risk of repeating myself, am I the only female that thinks the disparity in weight allowance is misogynistic to say the least? I think this is appalling, discriminatory and would ask where does it end? I also think that children should be required to remain seated throughout any journey (up to their parents to bring something along to keep them amused) and anyone who has unspeakable personal hygiene should also be banned from boarding, sitting next to someone wiffy is stomach churning.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:03

the REAL vote !







Ryanair to Consider How to Charge for Very Large Passengers



Which format should the charge take?:

1/ Charge per kg over 130kg/20 stone (male) and 100kg/15 stone (female)

2/ Charge per inch for every waist inch over 45 inch (male) and 40 inch (female)

3/ Charge for every point in excess of 40 points on the Body Mass Index (+30 points is obese)

4/ Charge for a second seat if passengers' waist touches both armrests simultaneously .

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:08

Mark, I'd support format 4/ Charge for a second seat if passengers' waist touches both armrests simultaneously, if I had to choose 1 format. However I don't think they should charge at all.

I'm also in favour of MsGarnets request about children and the 'smelly's'.

Esentepe7


Joined: 19/04/2009
Posts: 34

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:11

Passenger and luggage should go on the scale and charged accordingly.

I was charged £30 for 4.5 Kg excess weight on my luggage and had to sit next to a 18-20 stone man who had paid the same price for his flight as I did.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:20

oh well its bootcamp to slim down before booking with mr o leary. Puts a different meaning on Fat Club Class. The PR company who came up with this one must be smiling now. Coachie my darling you are booked in xxxxx

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:25

Why not a Cyprus44 diet club. See who can lose the most weight. I'm OK my weights perfect, if I was 11feet 6inches. ) (only joking)

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
24/04/2009 23:55

The charge should be on an average weight for both men and women and anybody exceeding these weights should be charged excess at the rate of "excess baggage". It is totally unfair that that a 7 stone adult female has to pay the same as a person a lot bigger and yet if they have too much weight in their luggage they are charged the same rate. Surely there could be a sliding scale for overweight people and overweight luggage. Children should be kept in the their seats but you must rememeber in a lot of cases they are charged at the adult rate. It is not only children who are unruly and rude on flights and not only children who move about the cabin excessively. What about the rude people sat in front of you who push their seats back without checking and cause discomfort?

Tootie


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Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:10

I weigh 23st and i would pay extra for having a larger seat for both me and the poor passenger sat next to me.



Its wrong if you have to pay but all the seats are the same.



Im not allowed to sit near an emergency exit due to my size and i dont order a meal because i cant get the table to come all the way down. LOL



Now be warned i fly from manchester on the 3rd of june!!!!!! LOL



Tootie

Tiggy


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Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:16

Flew Ryanair this morning......Knock to Luton. Left 5 mins early and arrived 10 mins ahead of schedule.......Not bad. Treated mysely to a small bag of peanuts and an orange J2O for $4:50.....I nearly passed out at the cost. Good job the £1 to use the WC was not in force!



Mr O'leary is a shrewd operator to say the least! I have been using Ryanair for years ,just wish they would be more upfront with prices and cut all the crap.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:18

Oh tootie are you chartering an aircraft all for your self. If so can I be cabin crew. Its all gone mad in that world I thank god it wasnt like that in my cabin crew days. We were jusst happy to serve xxxx

clarets



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:29

Can we just ban fatties!?

Tootie


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:32

lilli it is very embarrasing but i just be polite and appologise to the person im sat next to and hope they understand, usually if i make a light joke about it they are fine.



tootie

Arthur


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:35

Msg 60- totally agree. Get p#ssed off with the usual [as soon as the bloody plane takes off], the seat in front is tipped back as far as possible. Happens all the time on flights from Stansted to Ercan [via Turkey]. Simply no consideration.

proger1



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:39

Way to be diplomatic clarets, if we got the really skinnies to share a seat there would be loads of room for us fatties, or you could sit the skinnies on the fatties knee and we could all be better friends. As you say Tootie a polite apology normally breaks the ice in my experience and besides it is not as a rule the obese person that upsets me, its the person that utilises all the space without consideration for the passenger/s next to them and they come in all shapes and sizes especially the person who reads a full size newspaper and spreads it out in fromt of them with the arms out wide.

clarets



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:49

If you get fatties sitting on skinnies,then the populus of the World will reduce,and global warming will stop.....by George........you are the Saviour of the planet!

clarets



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 00:52

Msg 60,that would not work at all.Average weight for a six foot man is not the same as average weight for 5 foot female......it would be fairer if BMI was the arbiter of XS "baggage"

proger1



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 01:19

One step at a time Iain, we should solve the seating problem first and then the tax problem and then world hunger and then maybe the planet, if we do it all in one fell swoop they will think it was an accident

decanddyl


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 02:17

Yes Clarets I know what you mean as my wife and I are in that category however the problem remains why should she pay excess baggage when she is about 5 stone lighter than me.



Arthur msg. 66. Happens to me almost ever flight

sylvie


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Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 10:13

even th thought is, to my point of view , discrimination against the fat people, mostling people with sickness -

clarets



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 10:23

Msg 72,your message is unintelligible. Nobody forces food into fatties.....they just do it themselves.It is fair to use Body Mass Index for adjudication on such matters as it takes height and weight into the equation. I am nearly 16 stones,but I am 6' 5" tall so my BMI is within acceptable limits,but if you just went on weight alone and assumed I was of average height,then you would think I was fat. I cannot help my genetically predisposed height,but every fat person can help their obesity.....that is not genetically predisposed....no substantive study has ever shown this,despite nonsense written in certain tabloids and womens magazines.I hope that clarifies that issue.Regards,

britvic



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 10:37

Clarets, I think that comment is a little unfair, I don't have a weight problem myself, however I believe that obesitie is a form of addiction, like Smoking, or drinking.

clarets



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 11:44

It may be unfair,but it is a fact Britvic.Nobody ever came out of a second WW concentration camp or a Japanese POW camp overweight......the laws of physics,physiology and metabolism dictate that if you ingest more than you use ......you will become fat!

britvic



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 12:01

"It may be unfair,but it is a fact Britvic.Nobody ever came out of a second WW concentration camp or a Japanese POW camp overweight......the laws of physics,physiology and metabolism dictate that if you ingest more than you use ......you will become fat!"



That's hardly a comparison Claret's, those people were starved! However I suppose during WW there were hardly any 'obese' people around because of rationing, although not many would have been getting on an airplane.

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 12:12

Xenical is the answer and I can fully recommend it...it is even being sold over the counter in the UK now..Orlistat..£50 for a months supply!



Here it costs a little more...173tl for a months supply under the name Xenical..

britvic



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 12:15

.....................Or you could try the 'Clarets' diet.....................starvation!

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 12:49

There is one simple solution,let all the skinnies fly with Ryan Air(which he wont like)and cheat him out of his profit on fat tax,and the rest of us can fly with other airlines who operate normally.If there are any clever financiers out there here is your chance to make some money,start an airline that only carries people over 15 stone...

R.C.T.Man.



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Posts: 746

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 13:18

A very interesting post, CTA - Pegasus take note.

Well done Britvic you will not have any worries a pretty petite lady like you.

sylvie


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Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 14:01

clarets,



your message is unintelligent -if you understand french it might be clearer !



you most probably misunderstand me - again - i just said that it is discrimination against fat people to increase price - to my point of view of course -against fat, against black, against......when i say that some are sick it doesn't mean that they are all of them but you must accept that fat or very fat people have some health problem, even if it not your case !!!

britvic



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 19:18

Sylvie, I wouldn't get yourself in a knot over this.

Vicki

sylvie


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 21:09

i just repeat what clarets wrote about my message " your message is unintelligent"anyway stupid thread, so stupid answer - final point

TheSaints



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 21:15

He said " I am nearly 16 stones,but I am 6' 5" tall so my BMI is within acceptable limits,but if you just went on weight alone and assumed I was of average height,then you would think I was fat. I cannot help my genetically predisposed height"



I am 5' 5" short and I can't help it if my belly is too big for my hieght.

keithcaley



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Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
25/04/2009 21:22

Sylvie,

I think that perhaps you mis-read Clarets post - he said 'unintelligible', meaning

impossible to make out or understand; incomprehensible - according to the dictionary anyway...

Keith.

sylvie


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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 21:27

keith,



incompréhensible is ok for translation - still - it would have been nicer to write, i do not understand your sentence - can you make it clear? you get a nicer when people have manner to say things -don't you think so !

keithcaley



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Message Posted:
25/04/2009 23:34

sylvie,

Quite so!

It does seem that on this board, rather a lot gets lost between the writer's thoughts and the recipient's eyes!

And it's not ALL lost in the translation...

Best regards,

Keith.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
26/04/2009 01:34

Hi all im obese aparently size 1o bu my body mass index shoed me to be over the recommended. I feel fine no weight probs love being size 1o at my age feel 10 in my head what will they charge me with EGO Micheal O Leatys P company has hi on a winner . kept this ailine to the front xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

clarets



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Message Posted:
26/04/2009 03:00

Msg 83,it would appear that you are, either having problems with your reading or you actually are what you claim I said ! Like I said.......being fat is not rocket science. If you eat what you use , in terms of calories,you will maintain a healthy BMI. However, if you eat more than you use,you will become fat. Thereore keeping your mouth shut or not putting food in it,is a good way to stay healhy (BMI wise !).Obese people can always find excuses to blame anyone but themselves for their size,but it really can only be the people themselves who actually are to blame. I am not aware of force feeding programmes anywhere in the world.

sylvie


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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 11:47

clarets,



you are not a smart person at all - selfsufficient - and do not try to accept the other point of view, not even try to understand what they meant " between the lines " it's over for me with that post !!!

breezyboy


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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 17:14

Some years ago our Delta flight inbound to Atlanta was late through their own fault. It gave us minutes to change to the Atlanta-Manchester flight which was now almost full. Two seats far apart were offered with no alternatives available according o the jobsworth at the gate.

Upon boarding my wife was given a seat between two of the biggest seat overflowing American women you have ever seen and between whom she would have dissapeared for 8 hours without oxygen.

What did she do - she let the thespian in her take charge and burst into uncontrolable sobbing. The No1 took charge and within minutes we were holding a glass of champagne seated in Business class waiving two fingers at the ground staff moron who had said there was no alternative!!

britvic



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 17:32

Breezyboy, There is a really good argument here, if your wife had to sit between the large American women, and had they paid their 'fat tax' would it have made her journey any more comfortable?

breezyboy


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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 17:37

No but the champagene and food sure made it better!!

If in doubt-- blubber loudly!

proger1



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 19:48

Thanks Vicki, that is probably the best comment I have read on the whole string. I was so wrapped in thinking about the various flights I have been on with not nescessarily fat but definately inconsiderate fellow passengers that I honestly believed it would be fairer to the non intrusive passenger.

I now however thanks to your comment realise that this would not improve my comfort unless the airlines introduced a fatties and skinnies section at a much higher rate for the fatties with more space allocated to them for their excess payments, Oh wait a minute, thats called business class.

IMHO if the person can fit in the chair and is as polite as considerate as possible to fellow passengers than they should incur no penalty. People are not and should not be considered as freight which incurs a higher price per pound.

Coachie



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 21:24

proger1..You said exactly the same as I did earlier about freight rates.He will be operating Hercules Transports next!!!

proger1



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 21:37

I hope not Coachie, been there done that and a hesian curtain with a bucket for the lav is not one anybody should have to experience, that and the loadmaster wandering around the aircraft with a big spanner tightening fittings mid flight is a frightening thing. Saying that, I just realised that economy class travel might not be all that bad, just as long as you are not too fat, too long legged or just too rude and can afford 5 quid to take a leak !!!!!

Coachie



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 22:38

Proger1..If you think the Herc. was bad you should have tried the Blackburn Beverley.Flight eng.had a 7lb lump hammer as well as a spanner...

proger1



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 23:00

Ah but due to modern technology on the hercy bird the spanner was big enough to be used as a hammer. The most worrying factor was that if the plane was full the Flight eng would hand the spanner to some passenger to avoid standing on people.

Oh Happy memories )

Coachie



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 23:14

proger1..The hammer was for the passengers in case they tried to get off before they were told to.(paras)

proger1



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Message Posted:
27/04/2009 23:43

Well, enough said (paras) Aircraft gets above 1500 feet and they just want to get off for some reason. Sometimes they even remember the parachute

britvic



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Message Posted:
28/04/2009 13:49

The worst flight I have had was not because a large or smelly person was next to me, it was a strange gentleman who made it clear he did not want to converse and was quite rude, he sat ramrod straight all through the flight which was a little unnerving, and as it was a night flight, I didn't dare drop off to sleep in case I somehow ended up too near him! It was awful, imagine if I had fell asleep and woke to find my head on his shoulder!

Coachie



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Message Posted:
28/04/2009 14:12

Vicky..who,s to say you would have woken up lol!!!

britvic



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Message Posted:
28/04/2009 14:17

Lol, Coachie that's what I was worried about!

MsGarnet


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Message Posted:
01/05/2009 22:07

Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary has said today that only people living in slums will be affected by Swine Flu. He suggests anyone showing signs or symptoms of the disease should suck a Strepsil and shut up!!!!!!!! This unconscionable, oafish, boorish, cretinous ignoramous doesn't deserve one more passenger using his cheapskate ghastly penny pinching horrid little airline ever again - he is utterly contemptuous of anyones feelings, has no social graces; no doubt to save money he is re-circulating the same fetid air in the cabins (as many airlines are apt to do these days, to be fair) but should that be so, and one person on a flight of his have this awful flu, and unwittingly spread it around the cabin - deaths may well ensue. Michael O'Leary needs to learn he is only wealthy because of people patronising his business - if HE continues to be patronising - his fall from grace may well be swift - and frankly - I think deservedly so.........