why move to north cyprus ?

jendiab


Joined: 26/04/2009
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 20:20

THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO NORTH CYPRUS, MARRIED WITH THREE KIDS, CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES OF MOVING TO TRNC JUST SI AS I AM IN THE PICTURE ?

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 20:47

Don't do it keep working in the uk.Somebody needs to pay are pensions

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 20:49

Message 1 - "Positives & Negatives" - blimey, how long have you got!!!







J

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 20:52

You don't say whether you have been here before, if so how did you feel about the place, how old are your children and most important do you need to work to survive. It all depends on personal circumstances, it's great for some people, others hate it and some want desperately to get out. If it's just a matter of getting away from the UK I'm sure there are less complicated places to consider moving to.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 20:53

Hi Jendiab



Come for a holiday, have a look around, check out school, jobs, accommodation.



Then go home and try and work out what was the cause of this insane episode in your life.



Have a nice lie down and you'll feel right as rain!



Lem

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 21:26

Jendiab. Why North Cyprus? Why not France, Spain, Italy, the Caribbean, America....?

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 21:30

Hattie, Lem & Bill - couldn't have put it better myself!!



J

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 21:36

Not really a place to bring school age children unless you can offord private education, or teenagers seeking a career unless going to university.

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 21:43

why not msg 1 ///////////

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 22:46

not very positive messages from the British expats! Ligthen up a little.....you live here, so you must love it more than you hate it!



Positives are: Weather, property prices, lifestyle, low crime, good option of schools (GAU etc)



negatives: employment is hard to find, not as developed as the UK (although it's not that much of a problem), interest rates given on Turkish Lira etc.....

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 22:49

If you like continous problems and relish every so called simple thing being made difficult, then this is the place for you!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
26/04/2009 22:50

canyavuz, the interest rate given on YTL is a positive not a negative.

canyavuz


Joined: 22/02/2009
Posts: 363

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 00:14

sorry........thats what i meant.........

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 00:47

Hi jendiab,



There are some things to consider before moving to the TRNC. First do you need to work to feed your family? If the answer is yes, and you are not setting up in business then it will be extremely difficult for you.

First you need a work permit, second wages here are very low. If your children are still at school, most british kids go to private schools here but some manage at the local village schools.

Thiings seem to take forever here to get sorted, so if you have a short fuse, don't even think of coming. These are the negatives. The positives are beautiful weather for 9 months of the year. Lovely local people

Cheap houses, cheaper council tax, and as long as you don't go out every night cheaper cost of living.

Children seem happier here, there is a low crime rate and it is safer for them. You will get a much better interest on your money in the bank here. Come for a holiday, rent a house for a while.



The butlers wife

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 09:39

houses are only cheap if you buy the exchange/pre gc properties. (could affect your uk assets)

private school fees are cheap, but don't be fooled that the education is the same as your kids would recieve at a private school in the uk.

the crime rate use to be low but crime is on the increase.

health care is crap and you will have to pay for it!

beaches are crap and filthy.

everything is politically motivated.

animal cruelty is a big problem here.

you cannot trust anyone here.



the sun shines most of the year.

some of the tc and gc people are lovely.

good food.

cheap booze and fags (if thats your thing)

pretty much drug free, which is good news for kids.

a lot depends on which area you intend living in and who your friends are.



just remember having a holiday or holiday home here is totally different from actually living here.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 09:40

There are lots of things to consider before moving here. One of them is Why?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:15

I love living here but if I had my choice again I would prob pick somewhere else., just when you think all is going ok, shite happens lol.

jay76


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 532

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:27

jendiab.



Just remember everywhere you go there are problems what ever country, just a matter of overcoming.

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:28

i think shit happens everywhere dee,

just here it is harder to be master of your own destiny.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:40

Hi all I think here you have to make your own destiny. xxxxxx

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
27/04/2009 10:51

I agree and I am happy here but whether I will still be here in a couple of years time is debateable..I have a lot of friends in Spain so may end up there..

kimandneil1


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 169

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 22:18

hi jendiab i am due out there very soon to live and i have young family and concerns like you but i think the only people that can make our minds up bout likeing it and going is us . we wont know till we are there weather it is for us or not you could keep in touch with me if you want as i am new to it as well kim

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 22:44

Jendiab, My wife and I were thinking the same thoughts, just spent a week in beautiful NC, already got a villa rented bank accounts set up and half way through the schooling process for our daughter.

Reasons:

Beautiful country

Safe environment

Friendliest people I have ever met, expat and local

Easy going place



I could go on but needless to say, within 1 week my wife and I decided that it is near perfect for us to move to from Dubai.



Many thanks to those forum members I met as well as those who advised us from the forum.

Special thanks to Grumpy Grouse and wife, Jock1 and Wife, Gary the Quiz master, Tommy the returner and The Saints and several others but my typing fingers are waring out.



Hope to see you all again in a month.



Paul and Luba

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 22:50

There's no place like home and we tend to exist in a defined circle. Remember all the times you left this rigid sanctum and how did it make you feel.

I hope you find your escapismn and should you decide on this part of the island, you may also find it to be quite a special place with its own dimension to explore and enjoy.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:01

For me it really is easy, the TRNC is now my home country. I have traveled and lived to/in many countries around the world but my heart is in the TRNC. I now will live and die here.

AJ

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:02

Damien, very surreal comments, kinda followed most of it but then I always do get confused when the OIM tells me something, probably why I am still just a maint tech LOL !!!

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:09

Only another five to go then choppers leave ...

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:11

proger , tommy the returner , lol , r u refering to me ,, if so i did return , i didnt get a reply ?? my dubai buddy

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:13

proger1

Maintenance Tech? Electrical or Mechanical? Who would want to be an OIM? having to balance safety with production must cause many to retire early.

AJ

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:14

Sorry Tommy, different guy. I almost set up a local number to give you a call but got tied up with a dozen other things. I will be back end of June and will get a local number then, will give you a call so we can meet up. Tommy the returner is a guy who has been coming to Kyrenia for vacation for about 20 years or so, gave me a couple of good shares tips and some great company at the Grumpy Grouse.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:15

AJ msg 25 not soon I hope. We would miss you xxxx

tommy13


Joined: 29/04/2009
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:17

ah , lol , ok matey ,,,, i still have severel suitcases at home in dubai , couldnt rong a couple back could you ,, lol, jokes ))

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:18

Several answers in one attempt, seems like there is quite a lot of oil field trash around the forum. Turbine tech (Its a Danish thing but I am probably taking over as Maintenance group Assistant supervisor on a new platform) My Chopper is taking me away from home in another 4 days, sad as I can be !!!!

The OIM's with my lot don't retire, they just find a way to attach them to the platform as a new extension, all for prosperity I think

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:19

Damien

Where are you working offshore?

AJ

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:19

Good luck Proger to you and your lovely lady. Its not all its cracked up to be is it xxxxx

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:20

Tim, We've got a 40 foot container heading there in August with some space in it so if you need anything shipping ( within legal requirements of course) then let me know and I can stick it in the container, lots of space

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:22

Lilli, I think that depends on what you expect, If you spend 7 years dealing with middle east systems you will find that NC is a nice easy going pace and very relaxing.

Didn't get round to visiting you guys on this trip but will make a point of it on the next.



Paul and Luba

jacktheladett


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 528

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:26

Ask yourself what have you got to loose. If you come up with a long list, then it's not worth the risk, at least until your children are older.



You don't say if you have been here, or how many times; we came for a recce, and just knew it was the right place for us, it felt comfortable, we felt at home. If you are moving because you want to, rather than you have to, and you have 'that' feeling, and...............a back-up plan (or money behind you) if something goes wrong, then you have the makings of a good move.



If you asked people on forums like this in France, Spain, USA etc etc, you would have the same responses -apart from the property issue. There's good and bad everywhere, as Lilli says, you decide your own destiny.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:26

Lilli

Don't worry about me, I am going to be around for a long time yet.

Take care

AJ

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:36

J Block 170 miles east of Aberdeen.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:42

Damien

So are you drilling in the lovely North Sea? (not that I thought that there was any drilling going on now)

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 23:45

Hoya Prodger I meant the middle east wasnt all its cracked uo to be. Based there as a stewardess. You wl find your own destiny and I hope its here. We need people like you both to lift this litle place. What Im seeing is more and more from emirates etc Aberbygian christ I cant spell it but all the places I cant spell coming here. Its good. we hav russian Polish sweeds etc here now its a great mix of cultures now. We all respect the local culture as Im sure you dp there. Follow the advice and if ever i can help just email me . Just fo the record Alan grumpy was in todaY AND i ASKED ABOUT YOU xxxxxxxxxxx love to you all

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:05

SD&P at this time, im production with driller alongside. Two wells one work over the first of which is high pressure and temperature. A programme in the field till 2013 and the new beast the Jasmine starting at the end of the year. New dimensions and technologies which is keeping us on our toes. Should see me through to my retirement in the sun and my as well, im sure.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:08

hy cypruschill i hope so for you. It isnt easy is it

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:12

Thanx for the explanation Lilli, sorry I misunderstood. 2 of the guys I work with have just moved to NC as well, 1 of which I new about and the other was out of the blue. We have managed to situate in Dogankoy, Ozankoy and Catalkoy. You are correct about the multi culture thing though. Don't think I could spell Ajerbythingy either. Alan and his wife were brilliant for getting advice, listened to most of it but got a little drunk on occasion and forgot the rest but it seems to have worked out in the end.

Looking forward to meeting you in the future.

Paul and Luba

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:17

No complaints im one of the lucky ones, keeps the home fire burning and allows for visits to our other favorite piece of rat race escapismn.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:20

Damien

I guess you are working 2on 2off. I cut my North Sea teeth working on the hook up for Piper Bravo. Spent a lot of time in the North Sea but I was glad to get out and work in other countries.

Take care

AJ

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:30

2 and 3 as of last year so quite a difference after all these years. North and South Sea, Turkey, Quatar, Egypt, Trinidad, Ivory Cost and Ireland although i first started off C.E.G.B in South Wales. Not a bad power station on the island with a few decent upgrades having been completed in the last couple of years. In our game who knows where you will rest the boots.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:34

Damien

'In our game who knows where you will rest the boots.'

Or your hard hat.

Take care

AJ

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:47

Cheers mate, may meet on the beach one day .. night night .. early start.

Moover321


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 649

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 12:35

I have lived and worked in quite a few different countries and my experience is this:



1. If you have done your homework you will have a good idea of what to expect and some method to deal with the anticipated problems (challenges) as they come up!



2. If you meet good people - your impression of a country will be positive. If you have had a bad experience your perspective will be somewhat less positive. In general there are good and bad people everywhere. The trick is to treat people as you would like to be treated (hopefully well) and then good people tend to gravitate towards you.



3. Don't burn your bridges. If you are seriously looking to emigrate make sure you have a back-up plan and a way out should the worse happen. The worse isn't always something you can plan for!



4. Enjoy the process, the journey is as important as the destination! Every problem (challenge) is an opportunity to find a positive solution!



Hope this helps!