i'm puzzled....

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:11

Why oh why does "mmm" keep coming on Cyprus 44 and posting ?



he obviously bats for the other side (i feel a "rump" coming on).



Does he get some peverse pleasure in teasing us Brits that have bought here ? or is he just bored ?



If my misus looked like his misus, i'd be spending all my free time on her, not on here peddling the same old twaddle on here....





Nick

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:18

Hi Nick,



I don't often agree with you Nick but on this occassion I most certainly do.





The butler

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:24

Dear Nick



1/ Once again I thank you for the compliment to "my Mrs" but she would ( as would I ) point out that the "Rump" RoC aren't our "friends"..



2/ Perhaps you missed my posts concerning the Mr Apostolides case against the Orams and how it should be defended next time





Suggest if you actually READ the posts - you might learn something - and how to have a pretty wife ;)

Codger


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:25

Nick



I must be one of the few who actually believe that Marky comes up with quite a lot of useful information, but it can at times be a bit of a chore extracting it from amongst the passionate GC twaddle as you put it. Anyway he adds a bit of spice to the board and have you stopped to think that maybe he spends so much time on here to regain his energy!!!!!!!!

With a missus like he has I doubt that he bats for the other side even if there is a rump coming on.



Codger

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:29

Dear Codger



re msg 4



Whilst I appreciate the "defence" and another nice comment about my Wife... could you please explain ( with specific references) the "GC twaddle" bit?

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:41

Well Nick, this is a contentious one.



The wife well as Mark knows we have that in common as I have had the pleasure of being married to my beautiful Russian wife for 7 years now.



Marks posts, while some may get up some peoples hooters they are on the whole quite educational for someone like me who had believe it or not had no knowledge at all of what what the real situation was in Cyprus and little or no experience of choosing sattelite TV systems etc

I just wanted to buy somewhere to live where a couple of two different nationalities and religions would not have any problems living!!!

I have gleaned a lot from Marks posts and many of the others of course.

Far from teasing me for buying on the occaisons I have spoken to Mark by phone and email he has been quite supportive in my what I can only term as my uneasy moments.

Personally I and my wife thank him for his input.

Codger


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:54

Marky



You are guilty of one of your most frequent criticism's of other board members, that they do not read the post correctly.

My reference to GC twaddle was as Nick put it.

I will forgive you



Codger

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 19:55

Well The Saints I have to agree with you. I have never met Mark but have met several people who have. They all tell me he is a real gentleman and that Vita is an absolute beauty. I dont understand all that goes on here but I do gleam a great deal of knowledge from is postings. The thing we have in common is that we are both Irish. He only points out the various laws as he knows them and correct people from calling the G/cs Greeks. He has every right to post on any board north or south with his knowledge.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 20:05

Dear Codger



re msg 7



So you *can* you give me an example of "GC Twaddle" ?!



" but it can at times be a bit of a chore extracting it from amongst the passionate GC twaddle as you put it" ..

I'm suggesting that's you would put it, too , or you wouldn't have used the phrase...



I can forgive Nick .. he has said nicer things about Veta, more often :p



re msg 6/8



The Saints ( Mike) Lilli -- oooh - you're making me blush .. ;)

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 20:19

No one has the right (apart from the admin team) to say who can and can't post on here, besides 6 M's doesn't use foul language or put people down, he usually states facts. If we have to vote someone off I know who I would choose, the biggest ego on this board!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 20:46

RE msg 10, britvic > he usually states facts <



=> He denies the legality of the TRNC (violation of Rule 5 of this board). But you don't seem to care, over there, in the UK?

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 20:52

Mark is quite often an amusing diversion.



He does like attention and response, but don't all of us?



Often though he will make numerous posts on one thread, then ignore any answers and move onto his next soapbox, often ignoring the thread title to get his points across.



I see he never responded to my last post on the TRNC Villa Owners thread, having tried to put me down earlier.





Lilli



Surely he is not 'Irish', isn't he British?

The only way to tell is from his passport, does it say 'EU', 'Ireland', or does it say 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'.



That would make him British, unless of course he wants Great Britain and NI to remain and be recognised as seperate States.



Isn't that what most of us in TRNC want for Cyprus?



Personally I enjoy his pedantic posts.





Rob

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 20:57

Dear Hans, re msg 11



As I have answered this point on (now) three threads, today - I can only imagine that you have been sleeping through my posts since I joined and OPENLY declared my viewpoints ( and WHY) .. You might even remember I drew attention to the issue and asked ( TWICE) if I should resign - before being banned ? !





There are TCs who don't recognise "TRNC", Hans, and it folks like them that got the crossing points opened.



Again, I ask you what positive contribution have YOU made to explaining the ECJ ruling or a possible way to defend the action..?



Can you explain WHY I had to take the RoC to the EU Commission ?



Or May be explain *I* think the GCs should use the IPCs rather than the Courts.. ?





Best of all please explain to the members how successful your campaign to have me "banned" from "TRNC" was?!

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:00

Come on Nick



Marky Marky and his wealth of worldly knowledge along with his dimond of a missus are somthing surely you want to aspire too. Marky's typing fingers may be worn to the knuckle, but no doubt if you had his charm and wit you may also be able to pull a Russian dolly.

D.N

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:03

Mark brings 2 things to this forum. A balanced view of the Cyprus situation and a lot of m's.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:04

Veta, Veta - i'd love to meeta....



People who've met my Missus and Garry Monger's Misus will understand....





Nick

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:11

Dear RobnJo re msg 12





"he will make numerous posts on one thread, then ignore any answers and move onto his next soapbox, often ignoring the thread title to get his points across.

I see he never responded to my last post on the TRNC Villa Owners thread, having tried to put me down earlier. "



Send me the link to the thread, please..



"Surely he is not 'Irish', isn't he British? "



Not for the first time - you are incorrect - I am Irish AND British.. ;) As I was born in the island of Ireland I am entitled to an Irish passport and it is useful to have a second passport, as I need Russian visas and I can still use t'other passport to travel on a current Visa .. I've RoC ID , too .. ;)



My Dad's side from "south"..



N.I. in UK .. N.I. as part of IRL... it doesn't really matter, any more.. they're both part of the EU and there is no frontier security between the Ireland's ...



"Personally I enjoy his pedantic posts. "..





..and I love your assumptions.. ;)



Regard

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:19

RE msg 13, 6xm: You can blow bubbles again and ask irrelevant questions again. I won't debate with a scratched long playing record.



The relevant point is: you deny the legality of the TRNC (violation of Rule 5 of this board), side with the Greek speaking Cypriots ("TRNC", "border", "President Talat" - and you KNOW that's insulting - etc) and your worn-out slogans and borrowed EU-texts do not solve any problem in the TRNC.



I know you have your fans here and I think it's sad that some here get (part of) their education from you, a hostile Brit (or from Northern Ireland, Ulster or whatever) in the South of Cyprus. No use in hiding the truth: you are an enemy of TRNC and you can hardly wait for the day of doom, when all your fellow countryman and other expats are kicked out of the North.



My judgment is based on a five year experience and I have no doubts.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 21:28

Mark



Are you saying you were born in the Republic of Ireland and not in Northern Ireland?



Rob

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 22:35

Dear Hans, re msg 18



I have answered ALL your points in several threads today - directly and honestly and I note you couldn't / wouldn't offer any response to my question concerning your help re ECJ, etc ;)



The fact that I lived in the "rump" RoC should and does not mean I supported the actions of their government - but you know that, too.. !



You won't debate - or you CAN'T ? ..



re msg 19



"Are you saying you were born in the Republic of Ireland and not in Northern Ireland? "



... Don't you want me to deal with the post where you said I don't respond, first ?.. :O



I was born in N.I - and ? There are folk who feel Irish and some who feel British... the great thing is it really doesn't DOESN'T matter to most folk now.. it wasn't and isn't worth killing / dying for..

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 23:01

mmmmmm

It is very clear indeed to the vast majority of members the international status of the TRNC. Your stance is very clear and many members relay their thoughts that reflect your continuous and dare I say it monotonous drone.

The De-facto situation in TRNC is very different to your factual discourse. I suspect that you have not witnessed the vibrant life of the TRNC for some years and consequently rely only upon your readings and tinternet skills. Your experience of the British people who live, have invested and seek happiness in the TRNC, is ,I fear absolutely nil.

It is certainly the case therefore that you are far from being able to be objective in your participation upon this forum. This fact is very clear when most long term and objective members are able to contribute views that are reflective of their real experiences of the TRNC and Cyprus. I fear that some of the flack that you are subjected is directly linked to your lack of experience and objectivity.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
05/05/2009 23:44

Dear Waz

1/ ".. many members relay their thoughts that reflect your continuous and dare I say it monotonous drone. " .. My stance is simply that "TRNC" is / was not the best way to represent TC viewpoints.. and Warren this is the umpteenth time you have repeated this "assertion" and I will AGAIN remind you that it is indeed that of many TCs... !



2/ "I suspect that you have not witnessed the vibrant life of the TRNC for some years and consequently rely only upon your readings and tinternet skills" .. Warren - it is only two months since you last posted such nonsense and I posted photos from our last trip in August last year.. and before that I visited the "TRNC" 10-12 times a year, throughout the year, for 5 years!



3/ "It is certainly the case therefore that you are far from being able to be objective in your participation upon this forum" - well judging by your ability to repeatedly and mistakenly make the same [wrong] assertions ....... I rest my case...

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:13

mmmmmmmm

Thank you for your replyto my viewpoint.

I am afraid that I question your past experiences and visits to TRNC as basis for an objective understanding of current feelings within the TRNC. You have clearly not seen the changes that have taken place even in most recent months. I offer a greater level of creedance and respect for members that are on the ground and feel the real vibrance of the TRNC and its folk.



My assertions are based upon my experience of your postings together with the comments made by other respected and experienced members.

Mark. I offer you respect for your ability to research and present factual information. I do not offer the same for your lack of understanding of a region that is clearly in your past. I fear that your case remains weak and your postings should, respecively, reflect your diminishing understanding of TRNC and its real situation.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:14

Hans. Old Boy. Message 18



I have to admit to being a fan of Mark, as well of your's I hasten to add, I have read your messages on the Cyprus Forum in response to the GC rottvielers attacks.



But lets be serious, anyone whose BB name can invoke that marvellous song from 1994 by the Crash Test Dummies is a hero in my eyes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeAaTr2HYoc



Lem

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:26

Lem, I'm just disapointed that you will not be in TRNC when we are, I feel there may have been a good night out.



Paul

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:32

Dear Waz, re msg 23



"I am afraid that I question your past experiences and visits to TRNC as basis for an objective understanding of current feelings within the TRNC." ..



Well, Warren that's just your opinion, and you have very little valid data to base that on..



"You have clearly not seen the changes that have taken place even in most recent months" .. you mean they finished the Girne (Kyrenia) by-pass, Aga, started promptly issuing ptp on pre 74 TR land, etc. .. ?;)



Warren, very little has changed PHYSICALLY and TC don't really care about "Orams" ECJ verdicts.. Property prices continue to fall and I have VERY good TC contacts who might question your "sanity" ( joshing) if you think "TRNC" ( or most any where in CY ) is "vibrant" right now.



"I do not offer the same for your lack of understanding of a region that is clearly in your past."





Fear not - I'll be over soon to remove any doubt that my info is out of date ..

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:41

Hi Mark



If that's in late July/early August, please email me. Would love to meet up with you and Veta.



Lem

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:55

Hi Lem.. it's in the 'ands of the UK Border Agency or the RoC Ministry of Interior - ID card or Residency stamp - which ever comes first...



No problem to go - getting back to the UK would be "fun" ...

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 00:57

mmmmmm msg 26

Yes, it is only my opinion and only to be taken as such.



The vibrant nature that I describe can be seen, even now on a daily basis on the young streets of Girne.

The Physical change or lack of as you suggest is not reflective of an evident and vibrant social structure.



From a strong social structure will emerge the new and stronger tommorrow.



The ageing nationalistic generation in the ROC will die and with them thier greed, social failings and their age old greek superiority asspirations.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 09:41

Dear Waz, re msg 29



I note you would never make the mistake of national / ethnic stereo-typing or generalising..... ;)



IF you knew as much about Cyprus as you "claim"- you'd know that young GCs are more passionate ( and probably less flexible) then the generations that suffered first hand.. They've been taught - very much - as if the wrongs in CY started with the British and then the Turkish invasion..and to only settle in a deal where all Cypriots can live and work where they like...:(



Cypriots of Hellenic persuasion aren't Greek and Greece and Turkey enjoy much improved relations and trade partnerships...



The Greek and Turkish leaders have formed a good personal working relationship... Greece WANTS TR in the EU..



When I go sailing in Turkey - I see many GR registered yachts ..



One of us has a serious prejudice problem...You have much in common with a lot of young GCs - what's your excuse ?

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 10:57

Mark



At least we're getting somewhere.



So you were born in NI, which makes you a British Passport subject, but have a ROI Passport through parental assosciation.



You consider the ROI & NI to be the 'Island of Ireland'.



Is this the 'Island' that is Internationally recognised as seperate Countries, with seperate Currencies, Governments, Laws, Passports etc?



Oh,.... and has a 'Border'?





That sounds a very sensible solution to me!





Rob

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 11:07

Mark



re my response on the 'TRNC Villa Owners Forum' thread on this site:





I'll do a 'Mark':



'I responded, go find the post yourself!'



Rob

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
06/05/2009 11:48

re msg 32



OH no Rob



THAT won't work..



I DID post links the first and second time the same Q was asked of me... being asked a THIRD time in a third thread was "unreasonable"



Now,I'm happy to respond and "burst you bubble" !

WAZ-24-7



Joined: 18/10/2008
Posts: 695

Message Posted:
07/05/2009 00:23

mmmmm

msg 30



I fail to see your point in this post.

My reference to the older nationalistic faction within the ROC is well illustrated by the likes of Mr Appostolides.

It is the case that the new generation ROC/Greek speaking citizens are well place to support a settlement process.

It is very unfortunate that the likes of Mr Apostolides et al are unable or unwilling to progress to solution, peace and settlement.



I hope that your own prejudice against non cypriots will diminish as the cypriot populus becomes more cosmopolitan in make-up.