Is Torture acceptable?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 15:54

Before we head into the week-end, something to think about.



We all know that torture has been forbidden for some time. However the reality is that there are states engaging in the use of coercive interrogation techniques to extract information from individuals, maintaining that by doing so they are saving many innocent lives, resorting to kidnap, sub-contracting of interrogation or even the creation of ghastly black holes such as Guantanamo Bay.



Is torture acceptable under legal supervision or should we provide legal safeguards for a process that otherwise provides no protection for the individuals who are subject to it?

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 15:56

It can be torture reading some of these posts !

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 16:31

Cooper, I just knew you were going to say that )

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:03

Try buying a property....with kocan etc....

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:04

Torture is never acceptable, never ever!

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:21

As long as you get the right answer its ok.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:26

Most of us would say whatever the torturers wanted to get them to stop

so what use is it anyway for getting at the truth

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:27

Driving on the TRNC roads, never knowing if you come out of it alive at the other end.

baxi7


Joined: 23/09/2008
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:33

admit to the truth - trnc .

neilhodgin


Joined: 28/10/2008
Posts: 256

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 17:56

If it's alright for Jack Bauer,it's alright with me....

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 18:00

neil. ) ) )

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 18:07

torture!!!



some of the kariokie nights !

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 18:39

If a confession is extracted through torture it cannot be reliable..if someone tortured me I would confess to anything!!

keithr


Joined: 20/08/2008
Posts: 720

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:00

What did the masochist say to the sadist ???



"Are you going to whip me ?? ""



"Maybe...."

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:15

Its dam neccessary, valuble info can save the lives of many, intell / info gathering no matter how small can direct resourses where needed, which can at the end of the day result in a shorter conflict genraly saving lives in the long run.

these people would show no human rights if the boot was on the other foot so why give them any, waterboard the lot.



D.N

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:30

No pain No gain,life is a bitch then you die.....***T HAPPENS.





Spider.x

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:34

Its torture living in the UK at present with all that is going on.

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 19:46

I think some Australian politician was asked the question. His reply was that if torture of a terrorist saved one Australian's life, his only question would be which testicle to attach to the red wire, and which to attach to the black wire.



It's not pleasant, but [assuming that there are VERY strong grounds to believe the prisoner is holding information that may prevent a terrorist bombing], I'd rather have one injured terrorist that the scattered body parts of numerous innocent victims.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 20:08

Confessions through torture are not reliable...

thetruth


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 268

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 20:42

hANG THEM BY THERE BOLLOCKS AND SPIN THEM AROUND,NOT TO FAST THAY MAY BECOME DIZZY!!!!!

IF THAT DONT GET THE TRUTH OUT OF THEM.THEN AND ONLY THEN IS THE TIME FOR TORTURE.

boerboel


Joined: 02/05/2009
Posts: 290

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 20:47

Buying from unwins is torture........

lesshaw42



Joined: 21/01/2009
Posts: 101

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 20:50

I was married for 18 years so i know what torture is like ....

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
15/05/2009 21:51

You not get truth through torture, only what the torturer wants to hear

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:23

I think torture is justifiable and possibly fun ,but only when applied to politicians !

Fred8


Joined: 15/01/2009
Posts: 253

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:33

Is it worth it? An FBI special agent from 1997 to 2005, told members of a key Senate Judiciary subcommittee that such "techniques, from an operational perspective, are ineffective, slow and unreliable and harmful to our efforts to defeat al Qaeda." (CNN 15/05/090

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/13/interrogation.hearing/index.html

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 00:36

TheTruth,as ex SAS,you should know how to do it,like punch a judy would say...thats the way to do it.!!





Spider,x

racoonchic



Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3223

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 15:58

dewalt drill two screws into the knee caps then i realised the accupuncture place was next door to the builders merchants new meaning for diy

craig2536


Joined: 09/06/2007
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:22

torture is used as a tool all around the world every day of the year, by many many governments, not only to gain information but also to intimidate the population.