66 year Old woman having a baby in 4 weeks

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:02

I cant believe that they allow a woman of her age to have IVF

Regardless of having the money to pay for it she must be drawing her pension, and will be over 70 when her child starts School. No thought to the child and what her friends will think.

Maybe others think different I dont think I will have any more though LOL

craig2536


Joined: 09/06/2007
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:07

i think it will be terribly sad for the baby.

I am 49 and have a wonderful new son who is now 2 years old.

I hope I will see the man that he will become.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:09

Hi Sheila - yes, read this in the paper today. Apparently she did have to go abroad to get the IVF treatment, but even so! I read that she is a wealthy business-woman, so I suppose money does talk!



I am a year older than you and I'm hoping for grandchildren one day (not holding my breath, though).



Somehow cannot imagine waiting at the school gates aged 71 waiting for my 5 year old to come out LOL.



Hope you're well and looking forward to meeting up in a few weeks' time.



Jean

xxx

Grey80


Joined: 10/05/2009
Posts: 16

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:10

I agree, she may not even get to see them start walking or see them start school, then what will happen to the children, will they go into care not much of a life for them and then they have the problem with dealig with losing there mother at an early age. The world is going mad, the people who carry this out are only looking at there finacial gain, and not the people involved. Do they have psychological evaluations for this women or some some sort of counciling.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:12

Craig2536

Of course you will be around when you little boy grows up, you are still young but starting out at 66 she has no chance of seeing the child achieve goals she will be too old to run around with the child

This is my opinion only

craig2536


Joined: 09/06/2007
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:13

In many overseas clinics this ivf treatment is just another money making business, they do not care about the outcome of the baby, just give us your credit card details please.

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:14

craig2536 - congratulations! You do not say how old your wife/partner is? I think one of the main points here is that women are not 'designed' to give birth beyond a certain age - nature takes care of that on its own, whereas men are, obviously, made very differently, and nature itself is rarely wrong!



Enjoy your son and enjoy his babyhood, boyhood and manhood - which I am sure you will. The time goes by only too quickly.



With kind regards.



J

craig2536


Joined: 09/06/2007
Posts: 277

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:15

I agree smithy completely, just saying its a worry for me at nearly 50, so to be 66 well its just beyond comprehension, I cannot understand the womans expectations.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 17:16

Hi Jean

I read she was wealthy but money will not prolong her life, so its sad for the child

I will see you on the 5th

Grey80 I agree with you its bad enough losing your mother at 6 like I did but she was only 39

Her child does not have the chance of having her Mother around, and yes who will look after her after they have gone, even with family around its hard

Sheila

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 18:57

A pity she didnt see a head shrink at the same time..Like you say money says it all...

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 19:14

Sheila

We don't arrive until the 7th, so don't wait around for us when your ordering you food or you might get a bit hungry!



Paul

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
16/05/2009 20:17

paul

You will be here for the next one so will see you then

Take care

Sheila

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 01:51

Money may prolong her life actually. Just been talking to friends

from Skye whose parents both lived into their 90's. Father was

a chain smoker! Mother lived longer as a non-smoker (but not that

longer!)

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 01:58

Can money buy you life. dont think so . our destinty is all mapped out. Live healthy or bad its all in the hands of god. Now im getting angry at him he at least gets credited for what he does and I dont. Where is the justice. sorry God I dont mean it xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 03:04

Hey sweetie, without you at the front of house, Guido's would not exist. Its not just about fab food, its also about great atmosphere, making people feel at home and very welcome. You are a star at hospitality. And everyone loves you. So don't be down. You are a great team, take credit for that. x

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 07:14

I think it is unconscionable, a most selfish act; all about her and not one thought for her child. Every day of its life people will automatically think she is grandma and s'he will have to keep explaining she is his/her mum - we all know school children are cruel. Being a single woman, there will be no-one to turn to if she becomes ill and the little one needs attenion - bar the Nanny, who may not last long - traditionally the turnover is high. All the money in the world won't stop her getting arthritis or some other age related condition, not least dementia or alzeihmers. She will be more inflexible than a younger mum (we all get set in our ways) and will be two generations away from current social mores, musical tastes, technology et cetera. I understand many women are desperate to be a mum, but at her age, she could have become a patron for a child or children here or abroad - and seen it/them through it's education and teenage years - our laws (rightly) wouldn't allow adoption

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 07:17

or fostering, but she could have become a surrogate grandma to one or more children here or abroad - my daughter had no grandparents - all being deceased, the fourth and last, the day I took her to see my mother, who died one hour after holding her. There are many ways to achieve a desire, but actually having a child at her age should not be one of them...........the State interferes in our lives in so many needless ways, why does it not stop this?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 07:34

This should not be allowed...it is disgusting...66 years old and having a child, so damned selfish.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 07:48

Very dissappointed any country could perform such procedures for financial gain . Ethically this is unexceptable , do these Doctors have no code of ethics to work to at all !! . Artificial Insemination has been around for so long , why did she wait so long if she was so desperate to have a child of her own ?? { her eggs and sperm were from doners so genetically the child is'nt hers anyway , but she did pay for them so technically i suppose you can say they are } . It's tiring enough being a new mum at a young age , how can she expect to cope at her age . The child will need someone energetic to be running around after he or she keeping he or she safe , your reactions at that age is somewhat wanting . In my opinion it is a very selfish act . I read yesterday a 70 yr old woman gave birth to twins in India !!

Have a great sunday all , Simbas

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 09:36

Hey you lot give this woman a break!!

We don't know her circumstances or really anything about her, maybe she has tried for years to have a child and for medical reasons could not. The only thing that should concern anybody is, the childs welfare, will it be loved etc and I think the answer to that is yes. Good luck to the woman she could live to be 100 and that is not uncommon now so she would see her child into his / her 30's.

I spent a lifetime with woman who could not concieve, couldn't carry babies full term or had IVF got pregnant and then lost the baby, it is hearbreaking. So until we have all the facts and not just this womans age let's please not be too judgemental.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 11:08

This woman is very selfish. She has no consideration for the future of her child at all. A mothers bond with her child in the early years of life are the most important, sadly at her age she may not even get through childbirth.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 13:51

nurseawful



We do know a little about her, she is a divorcee, a Managing Director of a firm that produces plastics and textiles, and still works five days a week - albeit she goes in late in the morning. Everyone who is a mother knows the first few years, unless you have a child with no illnesses or who sleeps/wakes on command - one spends virtually in a daze, MOST ESPECIALLY if one is a lone parent; the total lack of uninterrupted sleep can push one right to the edge. Yes she has more money than sense, and yes she already has a Nanny organized, but to work full time, to be the OWNER of that company (dictating she has overall responsibility for the company and the staff - ALL decisions are ultimately hers) means that every single moment of this woman's life is accounted for - no human can endure that constant demand on their every faculty without something snapping at some juncture.....................

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 15:17

Just seems unnatural to me. Why didn't she adopt I wonder.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:12

nurseawful...You say she MIGHT live to a hundred,by the same token she may die after birth.you of all people should know how stressful child birth is to a woman.What happens if suffers post natal depression?? Child birth for a younger women is hard, never mind about one who is 66.I do not wish any ill on the woman but she obviously did not think about all the problems she is going to be confronted with...

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:21

hi coachie how are you my lovely friend. You are so right. We know 60 is the new 40 but sadly our organs havent caught up with that theory yet. She sounds like she is in total control of her life so Im sure even the birth will be as painless as possible. However she could still suffer PND. Im sure the baby will be handed over to an army of minders whilst she reflects in the glory. maybe its always been her wish to experience motherhood and this is he chance. We dont know and I hate to judge anybody. Im sure she will have thought of everything regarding the childs future. I know its very hard for any child to loose a parent I only hope it gives her a new lease of life xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The-Wicks


Joined: 27/05/2007
Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 16:52

Coachie & Lilli - hope you're both well. According to the paper today, this lady has a very small family and feels 'very alone in the world'. She was married many years ago but divorced a long time ago. She is a relatively wealthy woman who runs her own company.



So, sadly, it would seem that she has decided, very late in the day, that she 'wants something of her own'. I am sure money will not be a problem, but when the child is 10 she'll be in her mid-seventies.



I think, personally, it's a very selfish thing to do.



Jean

x

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 21:04

Hi..Lilli my sweet..Hope you are right..She was on the news today saying she does not feel her age,but I bet there are days when she feels older than her age.We all say that.Probably make a million out of her story,so the child will not want for anything except maybe a full time mother who is able to cope ...

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 22:05

I don't think she has done the right thing either. Ok, she's lonely, has a small family etc, but if she's been divorced (ie on her own) for years why didn't she do this earlier when she and her child stood a better chance of a decent life together. As Lilli says in general, the female human body is not meant to bear children so late so who knows how much damage she might have done to herself as a result of this which in turn will impact the life of her child.



Having the financial resources and determined desire to achieve a goal is all well and good but one has to question just how far she considered the consequences of such an achievement.



That's my twopenneth.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 23:11

I took my little grandson, year and a half old to the pub out at Freshwater today to see the Walk the Wight Marathon his 48 year old aunt was walking, 12,600 people walked this 26 mile marathon.



He followed into the bar packed with locals so I picked him up and an old regular at the bar said, "Just like his dad, likes his drink".



Here's him.



http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/Lemtich/Kaymenlaughing0002.jpg



"Grandad", I corrected him.



"Sorry", he said, "you can't tell these days anymore, so many second families start up, mums have kids in their 40's and 50's".



He is right, my wife is 50 but she was chasing around the pub after him. I'm 6 years older and know I'll see him when he's 20 or 30 and still give him a run for his money.



I believe if you think old, you will be old, Good luck to this mum, she's got plenty of time. Probably see all the moaners off to the graveyard as he grows up.



Its all in the genes, either you have them or you don't.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_jz4RzD3I&feature=related



Lem

clarets



Joined: 08/01/2009
Posts: 752

Message Posted:
17/05/2009 23:40

Msg 18,Dee.....I totally agree.This woman obviously views having a baby as owning a hand bag! A child is for life,not just for a few short years when it seems like a nice idea. She has not given any thought to her offsprings outlook nor indeed the very risks to its own healh,by having such an aged mother. A very greedy,self centred individual.

MsGarnet


Joined: 04/01/2009
Posts: 989

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 01:57

Lemtich



It isn't just about her age!!!!!!!!! This child has no father, NO grandparents, no relatives from what the newspapers say - the woman has said she has barely any friends and is lonely and isolated - forget her age - the bigger picture is that the child will be bullied by it's peers, have a mother who doesn't relate to the paradigms of the other mothers in his/her class, a mother who either will continue working full time, or suddenly be alone in the house with a demanding baby (all babies are demanding) she won't be Ms Thing anymore, she will be the child's mother, the complete opposite from everything she has been and known for decades..........soooooooooooooooooooo much is against this child having a happy life, NOT just it's mother's age.........

Hurmus



Joined: 13/01/2009
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 14:35

I think she will be too old to run around with the child :(

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:28

Hey Lemtich Thanks for being a human being.

Re my remarks in Message 20 I wasn't talking about the womans social circumstances which incidently have been all over the internet and the papers,. If you had read what I said properly (and I apologise if my English isn't too good)

I was referring to her medical background which NONE of us know about. And at the end of the day who are we to judge what is right and what is wrong. Would you rather a 66 year old lady have a baby or a 13year old have an Abortion?????

I can hear you say now whats that got to do with anything!!! Just think about it.

Chris