This Friday 8pm ITV, Trevor McDonald, the Orams and North Cyprus.

andy-f


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 22:56

it had to happen yes its the focus of this program, the orams and the pitfalls of buying in northern cyprus, stand by your phones gang they will be red hot when everyone sees this!

Arthur


Joined: 04/11/2008
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:06

Andy- I see you describe yourself as an "odd job" man.



You don't work for Aurie Goldfinger??



How's your bowler hat??

andy-f


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Posts: 1256

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:07

no comment!

Arthur


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Posts: 687

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:15

Goodbye Mr Bond.............

the butler


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Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
18/05/2009 23:23

Another programme scheduled for Monday 25th ITV 1 @ 8pm gmt focussing on the Orams/ ECJ judgement,

Can guess on bias and incorrect research!



The Butler

ronaldo


Joined: 14/11/2007
Posts: 372

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 01:36

Andy f Does it really matter ? publicity is a good thing . No such thing as bad publicity. Ronaldo

The-Wicks


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Posts: 2279

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 01:40

ronaldo - normally, I would agree with you, but in the matter of TRNC it seems to work in the reverse, i.e. "all publicity is bad publicity" - unfortunately.



J

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 01:52

Unfortunately the TC's appear to miss every opportunity to actually put their point across, whether at the EU, objections to the GC Judge (related to another property dispute between GC v Turkey) sitting at the Orams ECJ hearing, or just generally. I cannot decide whether it's apathy or just burying their heads in the sand and hoping the World will actually see the reality of the 74 intervention (by some miracle) without them pointing out the wrongdoings. Quite Bizzare really. Why doesn't someone in authority actually speak out? What are they waiting for?



The opportunity to get involved in these programmes has undoubtedly been missed, so yet again, it will be biased. Nothing new there then..... Yawn.

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 02:42

Another "newbie" eh?

taraspring


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Posts: 571

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 02:53

arbee - birsey degil kardesim anlayacin yakinda? Tamam!

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 03:14

arbee msg 9,



perhaps trnc propaganda is pretty shambolic...

but you surfacing on this forum speaks volumes



for as frankie goes to hollywood puts it

"when two tribes go to war

a point is the most you can score"



oh and time for your reality check:

cyprus is partitioned, and it always will be



indeed

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 16:12

no reply from arbee...



who has no connection to dryboak/pikey/eric, obviously...

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 22:38

arbee, I am sure that if you know the meaning of 'arsiktir' as you so clearly do, you are quite capable of translating without any outside assistance.

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 22:41

http://www.lewis-estates.com/independant-outlook.htm

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
19/05/2009 23:50

arbee,



your comments above show you are well-informed on the cyprus "question"

and you are obviously highly committed to one side of the "argument"

I would be loth to criticize since everyone is entitled to their "own" opinion



but you were the first to use the word reality in this thread...



in reality there is no forseable end to the partition of cyprus!

and I am convinced we will all have to make the best of the situation



this is due to turkey being the regional great power,

also because the roc feels unable to compromise (and why should they?)



surely yesterday's dream of a single state using the label "democratic"

is rather wasted on a north cyprus forum freshley-emerged from the hacker's axe



please forgive me if I misunderstand yourmotives

FishnChipped


Joined: 19/05/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
20/05/2009 00:22

try Skyplus if your working, on the Ex wife of Nadir, selling stolen art to other establishment scammers- could be Al Jezerra or some other similar

sloan



Joined: 24/02/2009
Posts: 808

Message Posted:
20/05/2009 09:20

I had to google it!



Ha siktir!

Get stuffed!, Bullshit!, Balls!



Now I need to remember the term and drop it into conversation at appropriate times.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
20/05/2009 23:32

arbee msgs 20, 22, 23





"turkey wants in to the eu and north cyprus may well be the price"



but visit the trnc and the locals reply "eh?" when you mention talks

in turkey itself I doubt that very many of the 75 million population

would surrender north cyprus at the point of any eu popgun

sadly for you guys no such trade-off is evenon offer anyway...

france and germany who control the eu don't want turkey in, ever



as regards talk of a "settlement" I admit to some bafflement

the talks continue,

because neither side is willing to take responsibility for pulling out first

with little sign of compromise from you-know-where,

and no sign of abandoning the trnc from you-know-who



and a bad settlement is worse than none, think "1960"



in your heart of hearts arbee you know all of this

so with the greatest of respect I suggest you look to your business

which keeps you so busy, stop bending our ear'oles

and find a forum more in accord with your views

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 00:37

Well depending which TV Schedule you use Meditteranean Nightmares may not be this weeks programme.



On Sky it says it's a programme about MP's Expenses, but the listings on ITV.com and Freeview says it's Meditteranean Nightmares. Suppose we'll have to wait and see!

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 01:54

message 25 arbee:



"there will be concessions from from both sides to acheive a solution"



will there be? it looks very far-fetched to me...



why would anyone imagine otherwise I wonder



only perhaps if the individual has powerful reasons to hope it might be so:



I believe the technical term is "wishful thinking"





andre

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 01:57

Worked with Trev's brother on an island called Tinidad. Nice fella.

CyprusChill


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Posts: 666

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 02:05

Sorry TRINIDAD .. He was the safety plant advisor ... i was the Instrument Superintendant .. the worlds biggest Ammonia Plant ... MW Kellogs Project.

Nice fella.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 03:55

Engineers wanted for Turkish pipelines, water and gas ... sounds good.

Power station Manager wanted for expansion programme, following recent modifications.

Schools through to University...

Hospitals and patient care.

Library.

OAP.

Child care.

Shops and redevelopement.

Transport.

The pace of life is slow but patient / cypruschill.

mmmmmm



Joined: 19/12/2008
Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 11:24

Dear Andre_514



In April 2004 Turkey seemed quite happy to allow Cyprus to re "re-unified" and to only leave 950 troops on island.



Why do you think it will be any different when the GCs "wake up" and realise it was the "best" deal in town.. if there is another opportunity.



With the greatest of respect... noting to comments to Arbee.. why do YOU seem to believe things can continue as they are.. when you KNOW that TCs are / have been effectively "buggered" by the lunacy of a "declaration of independence" which has made them anything but...



Currently, GCs and TR dictate "policy"... I hardly think that is what *real* TCs want ..

Bigcheese


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 51

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 22:31

Apparently good old Trev Mac has got Greek Cypriot mates so no prizes for guessing which way the programme is going to go! I still remember the last one he did in 2005 with Greek Cypriots crying outside their former properties

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 23:02

mark,



I can see where you're coming from



yes the 2004 deal may have been sensible but both sides no longer accept its principles

in particular the public in north cyprus will not now agree to hand over guzelyurt and varosha

and their fears are constantly reinforced by the isolation and blockade campaign

still rolling on, ever painful but always futile



some of the south's demands are not intrinsically unreasonable

(ie control of the airspace, one man one vote, a single umbrella state

and of course the return of properties despite mainland turks moving in)

except for their historical record which is pretty disasterous...



and the north and turkey will not agree to any of this anyway

while france and germany shall not let turkey join the eu in our lifetimes



I agree wholeheartedly things just cannot continue as they are:

so end these sham talks and let's free trnc from the shackles of isolation

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
21/05/2009 23:22

Bir shay degil = it doesn't matter, it's nothing (am I right?)

spelling phonetically

rigsby


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Posts: 912

Message Posted:
22/05/2009 11:06

Actually the programme has been changed tonight.Its now about pigs in a trough.Mp,s greed