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No1Doyen


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A group of civil society organizations is handing over a petition to the British Prime Minister Gordon Brown to protest the European Court of Justiceís decision on the Orams case.

Earlier, the Chairman of the Union of Turks Living Abroad Kerem Hasan said they wanted to draw attention to the fact that the verdict on the case will not only affect the British people but also hundreds of thousands of Turkish Cypriots as it will have political, economic and social impacts.

Last week, a protest action was held in Lefkosa to denounce the Courtís decision regarding the Orams Case.

During the protest, copies of a petition signed by 10-thousand civil society representatives and individuals were given to the British High Commission, the United Nations and the European Union.



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The petition draws attention to the fact that property is one of the core issues concerning the Cyprus problem and that it should be resolved through negotiations in full view of the agreed principle of bi-zonality.

In its ruling last April, the European Court of Justice said that judgments of the Greek Cypriot courts must be recognized and enforced by the other member states even if it concerns land situated in North Cyprus.

Property is one of the core issues concerning the Cyprus issue and the Turkish Cypriot Side has been underlining the fact that it can only be solved as part of a comprehensive settlement to the Cyprus problem.



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Does anyone know if this was shown on a TV station somewhere?



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I read this in my Google Alerts yesterday and I have been watching and waiting for the UK press to report it and to see it on news at ten last night. Sky News, any news .... after all the Londra Gazette does tell it how it is and also reports that Mr whatever his name is lives on Turkish Land and all this was written on the petition...........still waiting!!!!! methinks for a long time



http://www.londragazete.com/haber_detay.asp?haberID=4248



ilovekibris


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Why do these "nice but dim" people present petitions at the worst possible time? Does Gordon Brown give a stuff about Brits in the TRNC? Of course not.

The UK government supports the RoC and does not recognise the TRNC. Brown is fighting for his political survival and is more concerned about the latest expenses scandals than an irrelevancy like supporting the Orams (who are already sunk along with others in their boat).

Reality checks are needed here!



No1Doyen


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ilovekibris. You are right. Gordon Brown doesn't give a damn about the Cyprus problem. All he's worried about at the moment is saving his job and making sure nothing is put in the newspapers about how much money he has claimed on expenses.



mixie


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I've copied my response from another thread which is related....





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Sorry ilovekibris but I don't agree.







Gordon Brown is down on his backside just now and he will need to curry favour from everyone and anyone to allow the labour Government to survive. This includes not pi**ing off huge numbers of ex pats who remember still have the vote!!!!! He already knows how it affects Brits and whilst he probably won't even look at the petition, as we speak some dept in the civil service will be specifically beavering away trying to find an "easy way out" for the UK when this comes to Court.



The judiciary are independent of the government but if there is agreement that that supporting the ECJ decision is one which will be against public policy, you better believe it that there will be some top level doc winging its way to them with the PMs signature on it.



No1Doyen


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I hope you are right mixie.



ilovekibris


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mixie,

I think Brown and his ilk will happily sell anyone out to save their own skins. While I agree every vote counts I reckon they consider TRNC expats a tiny minority most of who would not vote for them anyway, so no loss to them.



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I guess we will all have to wait and see.

m



dodger



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As i do not know Gordon Brown personally i would not really like to pass comment as to whether Gordon Brown "gives a stuff about brits in the trnc" i know there are alot of people on here that do though,and welcome any info that can be posted.Thanks for the link daffs,

Paul.



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Mr Brown today has to deal with 900 plus workers being sacked at the TOTAL Lindsey Oil Refinery.

The Nations industrial work force are attempting to UNITE and the ramifications that will ensue.



Perhaps Brown, Phillip Brown may be an improved person to reason during these difficult times -



http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/50922



greylag


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Here we go theres money to be made here for the yanks.Wondered why they where stalling,

G.



dodger



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The Americans do seem to be shoeing more of an interest recently going by some of the items that i have read.Good friends with Turkey to boot.I wonder,

Paul.



girne 29


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Dodger

Agree with you on that

The only people in Europe that give a toss about the Cyprus situation are the lawyers.Most people and Governments have enough to worry about,and would never cross their minds anyway that a little island between Turkey and Syria

had anything to do with the EU.



But then again Israel is in Eurovision song contest.



fire starter


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as if he cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



ilovekibris


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CyprusChill wrote: "Mr Brown today has to deal with 900 plus workers being sacked at the TOTAL Lindsey Oil Refinery."



People who go on unauthorised wildcat strikes in this economic climate deserve the sack. Weren't these the people who were moaning about foreign workers being taken on? Guess who will have their jobs now. No sympathy for them.



Turtle


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You Know Pikey I actually agree with you..............................bloody hell did I just write that !!



fire starter


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turtle,

you are my next candidate for full exposure!

love rose



girne 29


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Maybe when they see the people who caused the economic climate you mention, the crooked MP's and bankers ,not getting the sack for stealing and ruining the lives of millions ,they can be forgiven for not thinking a wildcat strike is such a big deal. Average bankers bonus expected to rise by 8% this year, MP's recommended pay rise 10%,

Everybody else zero,looks like for some its business as usual.

As for the foreign workers they will get their jobs if it suits, going on strike will have little to do with it. Foreign workers are cheaper than our own because a British worker has to pay british bills for his family and a british mortgage for his house.



CyprusChill


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I agree ilovekibris and Turtle - very little sympathy left in me also.



Seen those days when i was generating board apprentice and the battles outside the power station.

Unions had no say then and no say now.

After that strike there were no more jobs for apprentices and so i listened to Tebbit and got on my bike.



Looked after No 1 ever since, just like all the rest.



Economic Climate ? What Economic Climate ? Im all right jack and i expect the kids to have to ride a bike just like the rest.



Shame about the demise of Apprenticeships though, it is easier getting a job if you have one on the CV.



Turtle


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Rose, full exposure ??.......................Lets try and make sure the wifes not about eh !!



phylray



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I don't think we would be high on Mr. Brown's list of priorities at present

and I agree with comments about people who go on strikes, especially at

present.

p.s. I am a home owner who did vote for present gov. - and I know of others

We are hardly in the wealthy, home counties bracket (flats being cheap here)



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