Water & Electricity Supply Price Increases

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
12/03/2008 10:20

Has anyone experienced an increase in connection charges for water & electricity?

Last week we were advised that our apartment was completed and we had to pay our connection fee of £1000. We have now paid this, however, yesterday we received another e-mail from the developer advising that "A payment of £ 1,500 is required to enable the connection of mains electricity and water. The increase in this charge associated with the connections is due to the Municipality Office. This is unfortunately out of our control."

I know there are a shortage in meters etc. etc, however, a 50% increase in the space of a week does seems unreasonable.

orangekazzie



Joined: 31/07/2007
Posts: 1091

Message Posted:
12/03/2008 10:31

Hi Glengoyne

Are you sure the first charge wasn't for the installation of poles to the site? The second charge could possibly be for the actual connection. I'm not sure how much we paid in total but I think it was around £2,700 which was for water, electricity and telephone.

Karen

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
12/03/2008 23:27

Hi Karen,

I think (I hope) they only want us to pay an additional £500. We are part of a large development and from reading our contract we are only expected to pay connection fees. Maybe it is a reasonable charge, however, it seems a bit cheeky to ask us for more once we have made final payment.

Anne

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 14:09

I was charged £1000 for electricty connection to my apartment (just one of those minor points that I wasn't told about).

Martin

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 14:58

Just been informed by our developer.

Meter deposits have gone up. when and if you get one!!!

From 180 lira to 540 lira.

If you have a guarantor it stays at 180 lira.

What a load of rubbish!!! guarantor whats all that about !!!

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:10

Connection fees differ from site to site.

We were;

£ 245 on one site

£1000 on another

I guess it depends where you are on the map.



msg1



I'm not sure !! but if its states in your contract a certain amount for connection then thats all you should pay.

If it comes in less then, thats a bonus.

The developer is responsible for geting the connection to the property.

You are responsible for the meter deposit.

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:24

Is there anyway we can get these charges down in black and white from Kibtek.?

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:25

Messege 5 could i ask who is you're developer ?

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:26

I guess we are all too trusting with the developers ?

I will be asking to see receipts when I'm over next week.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:28

Seaterra and chelsey Village.

So far I have not had a request from Chelsey Village on the meter increase, although we have paid £1000 to them for connection which included meter deposit

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:39

I can only quote what we paid in 2006 for water and electricity connections.



Water - meter and connection 65 lira

Electric - meter and connection approx 125 lira which included 60 lira bond



Graham

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:58

Msg 1

Anne.. it has just clicked !! you are chelsey village also.

It states in our contract max connection fee will be £1250.

jackie

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 15:59

I THINK RECEIPTS RECEIPTS RECEIPTS IS THE ANSWER .

Pipie


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Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 16:02

Message 11 could i ask who you're developer is please ?

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 16:04

I just checked my contract again.

The purchasers will pay a max of £1.200 for the connection of electric and water.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 16:05

who yours pipie

Graham


Joined: 20/10/2007
Posts: 397

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 16:07

Developer was Sercem and contract stated all main services in place.



Graham

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 19:51

Hi all,

Thanks for your input.



Jackie, I've checked my contract and there is no mention of any set amount, only that we are responsible for connection fees. Who is your solicitor? Our contract was written up by Naomi Mehmet. We asked her to check if we are liable for this extra payment since we have already paid our £1000 which was the amount requested by Yigor in our final payment request. We haven't received a reply from them as yet.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 20:15

Anne,

Naomi is our solicitor.

My husband rewrote our contract to suit us not the developer!!!

I dont know where you stand anne ? if you didnt put in your contract the max you were willing to pay for connection.

We have also put in if ypd are late with handover of the apartment we deduct £600 for every month over the agreed completion date.

Have you asked what the £500 is for in detail??

jackie

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 20:28

Hi Jackie,

At the moment we're waiting for a reply from Naomi. That was clever re-writing your contract - I wish we had thought of that! I think we'll ask for receipts or a breakdown of the payment to start with. Thanks.

Anne

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 20:30

Following your request please find breakdown of connection fees below:



Electricity connection fee (trafo katki payi) – 585 GBP

Fee for final electric approval (depozi) - 75 GBP

Electric meter

– 50 GBP

Water connection fee (Sihhi tesisat) – 240 GBP

Water meter

– 50 GBP

Total

1000 GBP

This is our breakdown anne, I hope this helps!!

I do know that water meters have gone up by Kibtek !!

Not by £500 though!!!

jackie

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 20:37

Thanks Jackie. You've been really helpful. I'll let you know how we get on.

Anne

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 21:10

You are very welcome

I hope things go ok for you guys.

jackie

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 21:20

Does it not say alot when you have to amend or rewrite your contracts even when lawyer fees stand at £1000 +. I think your right Jackie, sometimes the contracts, particularly on the larger developments, are wrote to meet the developers needs rather than purchaser. Well done for amending it.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 21:29

Yep,

You are right!!!!! all we ever got was .I dont think they will agree with that.

When we first read our copy of contract, we were shocked at the amount of things she did not pick up on.

jackie

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
13/03/2008 23:17

Actual Kibtec electricity usage prices gone up 18% today!

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 00:01

OMG,

I give up.

I am thinking about even selling up!!!!

Fed up with all the crap......

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 00:04

So whats the problem with Electric prices going up by 18%.



That seems to be the norm all over the world, with Oil at $107 a barrel.



TRNC are not immune to the world economy problems and they do use oil to produce Electricity.



MC

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 00:14

At the moment it seems to be one thing after another.

Normaly I would accept this!!!

It just seems to be gloom and doom at the moment and feeling I should have invested my £130,000 elsewhere

Living on Mars


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 54

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 17:20

We paid £235 for the electric meter and the connection. We went to the electricity board (1st floor) in Girne (near the fountain), and registered for an electric meter and connection. We collected our own meter, and met up with the electric people on site and they simply connected it for us.



We have now set up a Direct Debit to pay for the electric, as soon as we had done this, the price of the electric dropped. We had previously been paying on a builders tariff.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 17:44

Can I ask !!

How long ago was that??

I was under the impression you paid for a meter on top of connection? May I ask how much you paid for water connection

At present we are on temp electric 115 lira a month till we get a meter.

Our developer has now informed us Kibtek are asking for 540ytl holding deposit for meter if you dont have a guarantor and 180ytl if you do???

I really cant get my head around all of this!!!

Living on Mars


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 54

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 18:05

Hi jmg171.



You can ask - no problem ....



This was about 12 months ago, and as far as I can recall our water meter connection charge was about £200.



We did however, have a bit of a 'do' with the constructors, they requested that villa owners pay them for the builders electric that was used, from what they say was the end of our villa build to end of the whole site being completed. The final bill of electric was for £1000. We were asked to pay £650 of it, as our villa was the first to finish. This was about two years ago. We flatly refused, as we were not going to pay for electricity used to contsruct the other villas. They have not pursued the matter (to date!), the construction company paid the builders tariff, and this was confirmed to us by the electric office. They were satisfied that the villa was ours, even though we had not had it registered. We produced the bill of sale from the constructors, and put the electrice bill in our name. Then as said in previous message, we collected the meter, paid the money requested and have had no problems since ....where has this guarantor come from !!!! I think thety make the rules up as they go along!

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 18:20

I have no idea where this guarantor thing has come from??

Would I be right when I say then, your total bill with meters was £435.

jmg

Living on Mars


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 54

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 19:03

It was definately no more than that ... we had no hassle at all.

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 19:05

Thank you!

You have been most helpful

jmg

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
14/03/2008 19:31

Can't help thinking this is yet another money making scam by builders.

Martin

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
15/03/2008 17:47

Hi,

Received a reply from Naomi saying that we would probably have to accept the additional payment - so I queried this with the developer asking for a breakdown of the connection fees and received an e-mail today advising that we did not have to pay the additional £500 increase as we had already made our payment. YPD apologised that our payment and their e-mail had crossed in the post. I don't know what we're paying a solicitor for!!

Not sure how others who are still to make the connection payment will be effected.

Anne

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
15/03/2008 18:10

Hi anne,

So pleased you got things sorted.

What is the naomi like!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

If you were nieve enough ..you would have paid that £500 according to her.

My opinion ...she is a waste of time and greedy greedy greedy !!!!! I am still waiting on reply's to e-mails over 2 weeks ago She has the nerve to ask me for £40 for copy's of our contract for the 2 properties we have purchased, so we can pass them on to Kibtek to connect our meters when they arrive.

We should have been given those copy's when we paid our stamp duty as part of the sevices we have paid for!!! We are over next week and as a matter of principle I will get my contracts a copy what I need myself.

Anne, have you noticed the other post ?" who is buying chelsey village," started by arty. It may be better to go to that post so other buyers could take note.My bags are at bursting point!! he!he! all excited and cant wait to get out there.

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
15/03/2008 18:29

Hi Jackie,

You're right - it would have been so easy just to pay to avoid any hassle. I've been reading the other posts - seems there's a few from Scotland buying at CV. We're going out first week in May and really looking forward to seeing the apartment.

I'd be interested to hear how other Scots are getting to NC. We're flying Edinburgh to Paphos with Globespan. Not sure how we'll get on with the drive up from Paphos since we arrive quite late at night.



Anne

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
15/03/2008 18:34

I will go to the other post anne.

buying chelsey village

jmg

vicki


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
21/03/2008 13:11

Hullo to every one in Chelsey village.

Arthur thank you for the photo’s you emailed us, And yes we would like for you to send us photo’s in April.We hope you have a very good holiday, and every thing goes well when you go out.

We have also have increase’s in connection charges for water & electricity from £600 when they said. We were out there in October, and when we email them to ask about connection they said it would be £1000,then we get email from London to say it is now £1500,unlike those who already paid £1000 who will not have to pay increase.

It’s a pity because it leaves a bad taste .all we can do is try and to get receipts off them. They did say we could do the connection our selves bit hard when you’re in another country.

Keep in touch

Keith Vicki

jmg171


Joined: 19/05/2007
Posts: 183

Message Posted:
21/03/2008 15:01

Vicki,

I will be at chelsey village next week,

I will find out a much as I can about these extra charges.

Did you not put in your contract amount that you would accept?

jmg

vicki


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
21/03/2008 19:26

Hi jmg

no only that upon receipt of offical invoces.We dont mind paying if that`s what it cost them. if you have any photos can you email.

Thank you.

Vicki Keith

trevor


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 244

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 00:01

Not yet bought property in TRNC but if there is a shortage of meters could i not take my own over fron Blighty and fit one myself. I am a qualified JIB approved electrician and have done this many times in England on both new and old properties, or has someone in their wisdom got a franchise on them, would be very interested to know this.

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 00:39

Trevor

Wouldn't that be great - it seems too simple though. Better watch you'll have everyone lining up for fittings!

Glengoyne


Joined: 29/02/2008
Posts: 30

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 00:47

Trevor

Wouldn't that be great - it seems too simple though. Better watch you'll have everyone lining up for fittings!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 01:52

Nice one Trevor may bring a suitcase of meters over with me! (Im a JIB Sparks)



Folks with regards to connection fees I dont think you have much choice. + the increase in energy charges is Global.



ALSO...North Cyprus are planning to build several new Power stations, Hence they have to raise the revenue somehow?! Maybe they have a plan to sell Electricity to the South of the island?



Instead of everybody moaning about it, why not write to the N Cyprus Government asking why the heavy increases and that the average person simply cannot afford it???



Oh by the way....How many of you knew that Mr Talat the Governor of N Cyprus has a degree in Electrical Engineering? Maybe He has a smart plan?



Nunu

cruggs


Joined: 06/04/2008
Posts: 498

Message Posted:
11/04/2008 12:43

just a thought whilst browsing, this forum.

do all the purchasers pay the same for water and electricity connection charges

if they have bought on the same site.or is this dependent on the aggrement

they have with their builder or developer. i can understand that cost, must

very due to distances from sub/stations,pumping stations,infrastructure etc.

as in message 41.two people paying different prices. for the same connection

or is this just inflation. also do the local t/cypriots pay the same charges as

ex/pats

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
12/04/2008 02:17

john wayne lives on

trevor


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 244

Message Posted:
20/04/2008 20:07

If any ofus on this forum bought a property in GB would we all expect to have water, gas and electrics fully sorted, like i say i am a fully qualified electrician as i suppose are many other people on this site, if i charged anyone or proposed a fee of anywhere in the region of £1000 to supply and fit a meter i know where i would be told to get off even at 1/3 of the price i could make a good profit. I have high hopes of buying a property on Chelsey village soon, what extras can i expect to pay, its like being under the good old British tax system, RIP THEM OFF AT ALL COSTS AND FKM. Sorry about the last statement if it offended anyone but if i buy a completed property i expect it to be completed. This is supposed to be a buyers market, so lets make it one, we should tell them, not them telling us. As for paying a standard rate for electric per month, who am i subsidising, i will be there about 4 weeks of the year if i decide not to rent out, i have heard varying prices of this from 215NTL(£86) down to (115NTL(£46) per month, this is more than Britain then you have water and gas. Come on lets not be to ransom lets start telling them what we want. I am no Russian red, i believe in fair deals and these prices are certainly not fair. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
20/04/2008 21:20

i do not think it is the way to behave because you can be told, with reason, if you not like it you can go and buy somewhere else, we must not have your country as a good reference TC must stick to ! of course there is lots of things we don't understand, but that 's the way it is - you adapt or not and if believe me if so many foreigners are buying in cyprus it i s because they know they have good avantages not only money wise ! and when you decide to go and live somewhere abroad, it is not the local who has to adapt to you - it 's you !!! but talking like that you give a bad image of foreigners coming to buy in cyprus because they are not all of them like you !

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
23/04/2008 00:11

When you talk of connection charges,are you talking about a new property that has never been connected,as i hope to buy a re-sale that has electric,water,telephone,and like the UK i would expect that the owner will have it dis-connected,leaving me to have it re.connected,i would hate to think i will be charged the amounts i have read on this forum to have this done.