Please - no more MJ jokes!

Lizzykins


Joined: 15/05/2009
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 22:00

It's very sad when people think that making a joke about someone who's just passed away is good sport. MJ was surely a troubled soul, and derseves to have a little dignitiy in death don't you think??*!



Liz



http://www.ateliermaison.com

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 22:13

To the children he abused his death may bring relief .............



No laughing matter but who lets not family members share their bed ? thinking it is a fun thing to do ?



December 1993 declaration was sworn by a 13-year-old California boy who sued Jackson for, among other things, sexual battery, willful misconduct, and emotional distress. The child's declaration includes a graphic account of alleged sexual encounters with Jackson at Neverland and various hotels. Four months after the Los Angeles Superior Court lawsuit was filed, the two sides announced that the matter had been settled, though terms were not disclosed.

PAY OFF ??



Yes, we can mourn the passing of a talented entertainer. And although we can understand that he himself had an odd and abusive upbringing, according to most reports, we should not forget or forgive the damage and hurt he has caused children.



Michael Jackson was able to get away with it thanks to his fame and his fortune.

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 22:45

Totally agree Lizzykins,



Nige,



It was NEVER EVER proven that he abused any child. He was a troubled man all his life through his own abuse and may he R.I.P.



Pat.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 22:55

Michael Jackson was able to get away with it thanks to his fame and his fortune.

billyboy1


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 590

Message Posted:
26/06/2009 23:08

I admire michael jackson for his music, which was unbelievable, but as a human being , that is different......



His music and talent cannot be knocked...may he rest in peace......his music will live forever



But.....if your child was accusing an adult of certain things, would you settle out of court or take it all the way within the court system..(or other means if you could get your hands on the molester) .i know what i would do....and to be honest...accustaions have been made about him for years...no smoke without fire.....



I believe , like always more things will come out now that he is dead...uri geller today saying things that he wouldnt say when michael was alive...why? cause he is ....sorry i cant even think of a word , apart from thinking it is disgusting.....



Every person deserves some dignity and respect in death....his family also......



RIP

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 00:30

If you don't live a dignified and respectful life, why expect to be treated so when you die?

Michael Jackson lived to wind up the press, and he did on several occassions. You honestly don't think that he didn't set up the "I Sleep in an Oxygen Tent" photo, walked around in a surgical face mask, and even appeared in Court in pyjamas so that the gullible press would make a story of it? "All publicity is good publicity" someone once said, and I totally agree.

It really wouldn't suprise me if this "death" isn't one of them. Maybe he will be reborn on the first night of his come back tour. Maybe the promotor is in on the joke that's why they aren't rushing to give everyone a refund. Then we will call him Michael "Messiah" Jackson. Maybe he is the "second coming".

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 00:37

Well said Nige, you don't pay 90 million $ out of court if your innocent do you.

Trudy


Joined: 25/05/2009
Posts: 369

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 01:46

The fact is, no one will ever know what really happened. People have their ideas and opinions which they are entitled to, but no one will ever know the whole truth behind it.

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 02:53

He was undoubtedly one of the greatest showman ever, a gifted entertainer, a musical icon. His music was unique, and enjoyable.



But..... there will always be that "darker" side of his life that followed him to the grave, and since those revelations (whether true or not) gave me an uneasy feeling.



A master at his craft of showmanship in the public eye. Whoever knew the real MJ? Sorry, but IMO, the truth will never be known. Did he or didn't he? Theories and speculation abound, and will be around for as long as the media can spin it, and make a few quid. Whether you believe it or not, it casts a shadow of doubt over his reputation, irrespective of his musical genius.



This evening whether he is "upstairs" or "downstairs" in the world beyond the grave is not a matter for us to concern ourselves with now. He will have been allocated his rightful place.

jacko99


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 03:26

nigels talking crap as normal nobody takes any notice luv to see him say all his poison in down town chicago they would string him up and spit him out please give it a rest and let him rest in peace otherwise he will just breed hatred there is enougth in this country without idiots like that stirring things up anymore

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
Posts: 666

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 03:45

Beaten and abused by his father.

With a Knife and a screwdriver.



Imagine that kind of childhood upbringing.

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 04:11

if im a abused child.....does it make me want to abuse other children!?



if im innocent of all that is being accused of me ..why do i pay 15 to 20 million dollars to a family and the child who is saying what he deems to be true.ohh but also the same child just happens to know that MJ has certain marks on his lower region.



Strange really,maybe MJ used to take the said child to the toilet ,or to the shower.or bath. maybe even bed!



of course he was talented.such a pity books and videos and watever else wernt enough and he possibly had to cross the line! from fantasy to reality!



sick!

SAFFI


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 04:15

Rest in Peace Michael

You will allways be a Star,

Thanks for the memories with love from S & D

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 08:02

MJ was a hero to many and I for one enjoyed his music..esp his Earthsong, it reduced me to tears..leave him alone, he was indeed a troubled soul and his father should have been arrested for child abuse..what a nasty little man he is, he should have been locked up!



RIP Michael..

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 08:05

Great Entertainer, please leave him alone, his music will live on

Pick on someone who can fight back.

RIP Michael

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 08:23

For all the (repeated, unproven) accusations and insinuations on this forum - it's good that there are countries with independent judges and no juries. God, Allah, Buddha etc help you when you - guilty or innocent - are judged in this world by the likes of Nigel.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 08:47

He had his own demons to fight and we will never know the truth. His god will be the judge. Let him RIP xx

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 08:59

guilty or innocent - are judged in this world by the likes of Nigel. and people like hans look the other way.



His music was very good but no matter how much money you have you should not be able to buy justice.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 09:19

Dear Nigel. I don't talk about or judge his music - I'm from a different generation than most of his fans. For me the choices were Elvis Presley or Cliff Richard and The Rolling Stones or The Beatles.



It is worrying for your state of mind when you say that I "look the other way". I don't. I believe in justice according to the law - and I think people who join the awful chorus of a lynch mob are potentially dangerous. The late Mr. Jackson was not convicted, so he was and is innocent. Like or dislike him as an artist; that's what this great entertainer deserves after his death. Spitting at him in his private life in the past has nothing to do with it.

Pixie


Joined: 18/03/2009
Posts: 489

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 09:20

We will never know if the allegations were true or if they were made up by the boys and their families in order to get money out of Michael, but can you anwer this honestly....



Would any money in the world stop you from throwing your sons abuser into jail and showing him for what he really is to the world?



I would go through hell and back to punish and expose such a guy...Even if it meant ruining my own life in the process...

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 09:58

Anyone in the public domain has to be and have been squeaky clean their whole life, otherwise they will inevitably be the but of sick jokes etc.



Michael Jackson whether innocent or guilty only has himself to blame for this because of his inappropriate behavior. it is not acceptable to blame his upbringing, we are talking about an adult here who knows the difference between right and wrong and even if he didn't probably employed a PR team and had friends who he chose to ignore.



Having said this I am sure he will be remembered more for his music when the jokes have all been worn out.

Amber


Joined: 26/09/2008
Posts: 561

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 10:50

Pixie,



I agree with you. Why would you settle for any sum out of court, you would want justice done for your child and for the abuser to go to jail. So what does that say about them!





Leave the man alone. I cannot believe people can find humour in a premature mans death, who brought a great deal of happiness to many many people with his talent. RIP

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 11:22

just because someone is entertaining or you like the music they produce does not get away from the fact there is no smoke without fire.



i bet many of you rocked away in the 80s to glam rock ie certain mr glitter and we all know where that went.!!



Big Entertainers seem to have to live on a different planet where because of fame and fortune seem to be able to do what they like.

pedos should have no rights and should not be breathing so chalk another one up



ps well said nige

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 11:37

Some fine examples of the morals of some board members: "Forget Rule 1 (Innocent until proven guilty)". The late Mr. Jackson was "a child abuser" and "quilty beyond any doubt" - because some board members say so. Brrr...

xvickyx2009


Joined: 25/06/2009
Posts: 46

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 13:26

I can understand what your saying about MJ and all the accusations... but if i had a child being abussed then i would not settle for money and for him to be set free to do it again to another child.

I would want him sent down out of other childrens way. Alot of people are just after the money and you can see that surely if the parents though there kid was being abussed no amount of money could change that but in there eyes it did and just shows whaqt they were after in the first place.

They made it public with these accusations but soon stopped when they had the cash.



He was never found guilty.. and everyone is entiled to there opinion but cant you just let the man rest in peace and his family to come to terms with there loss. At the end of the day he changed the world of music and was an amazing entertainer. I will be remembering him for that not all the negative which was never even proved.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 13:40

This whole thread beggars belief.

Haven't you all got more important things in your life that you should be addressing?

dav88



Joined: 01/08/2008
Posts: 605

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 13:50

I agree with AJ, some of you are so disrespectful I feel ashamed to be living amongst you!

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 14:01

thats what its about debate and difference of opinion unless of course you are a top poster or forum admin

and then you are always right



"Some fine examples of the morals of some board members: "Forget Rule 1 (Innocent until proven guilty)". The late Mr. Jackson was "a child abuser" and "quilty beyond any doubt" - because some board members say so. Brrr..."



hans is always right brrrrrr.............



"I agree with AJ, some of you are so disrespectful I feel ashamed to be living amongst you! "



take it you have never disrespected anyone then?



board is for debate like it or not good or bad

dav88



Joined: 01/08/2008
Posts: 605

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 14:10

No cyprusairsoft in fact I happen to be a respectfull open-minded individual. I do not disrespect anyone unless they truly deserve it, and if I do then I know how to apologise.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 14:20

cyprusairsoft

Message 31:



'board is for debate like it or not good or bad'

I agree, but and a BIG but, this board is about the TRNC. What has Michael Jackson got to do with the TRNC?

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 14:55

AlsancakJack, Well said, this forum should be about things connected to TRNC matters, not some of the crap which ends up on here, for example Jade Goody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michael 'child abuser' Jackson and Soccer to name but three.

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 15:08

Can't agree BigMark.

Otherwise I can't mention the EC, UK, USA and the rest of the world.

Why do you not want us mention, UK MP's expenses, Corruption, Greek Cyprus or whatever we want.

Why do you want to limit discussion only to that which you prefer ? If you don't like the topic, don't access it !

Your contribution is off topic.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 17:23

>>>> "Forget Rule 1 (Innocent until proven guilty)". <<<



the one common trait of many child abuse victims is I was told NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE ME, the abuser was a friend I trusted him/ her and did not want to get into trouble I would say would say work with victis of chid abuse listen with an open mind watch how they are so so scared to admit they have been abused listen to how they have self harmed because they thought it was their fault !!



Just because mr jackson was found no guilty does not mean he did not do it , it means for whatever reason the prosecution with their limeted funds were not able to prove he DID DO IT.



I have seen the effects of child abuse on the victims first hand and no child would go through what some of mr . jacksons victims have endured if they had not been abused.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 17:26

This whole thread beggars belief.



Haven't you all got more important things in your life that you should be addressing?



What better subject to debate than how to>> protect children from abuse <

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 17:36

RE msg 37, Littlenige > Haven't you all got more important things in your life that you should be addressing? <



=> Come on, Nige! The second post in this thread was yours!

batterboy58



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 442

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 17:43

I agree with Nige, It is very difficult to prove cases of molestation even among ordinary people which is why only a small number ever make it to court. So much more difficult when someone is waving around huge sums wanting to settle out of court.

The fact that these sort of allegations have been made twice speaks volumes

and shows the arrogance of MJ in thinking that he was above the law with all his money and fame and did not show any concern for how things would appear TWICE.

I too have experience with a victim of child abuse and admire anyone who faces up to the difficulty involved in coming forward.

The last paragraph of Nige's post rings particularly true in my experience.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 17:44

hans I do apologise if I was unclear AlsancakJack said in



Reply

Message 29 of 38 in Discussion



"This whole thread beggars belief.



Haven't you all got more important things in your life that you should be addressing? "



My reply is What better subject to debate than how to>> protect children from abuse <<

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 18:43

Nige

Unfortunately discussing child abuse on this board does not solve any of the associated problems. Now if you would like to discuss what you are doing about child abuse from a personal perspective then I am sure some of us would be a little bit more interested.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 19:17

AlsancakJack



IT MAY NOT SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS BUT it can and should raise awareness.



why does a discussion have to be turned into a personnel issue yet again aj yet again people raise awareness of other issues yet again you turn it on to me and make it personnel yet another example of your petty vendeta that has been going on for several years now !!

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 19:25

Yawn.

Yep OK Nige. whatever.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 19:38

Poochman

I don't give a flying bottom burp about what you think of my moderation abilities or for that matter what you think of me. 'Buck up'? Sorry sir I will do my best.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 20:02

Poochman

Oh and I profusely apologise, I did not realise what value you have been bringing to the Cyprus44 board.



'God and I hope there is one make this jacko perve burn in hell'



'*ollocks!!'



'Poor dear MJ I would spit on the pedos grave if I got the chance'



Your postings are taking Cyprus44 to a new level. Thank you.

juliachcc


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 20:10

These are supposed to be the "forum rules - a part of................







3. Be Polite

We take the "Be Polite" rule very seriously. We do not tolerate any rudeness. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack. Any member who is intentionally unpleasant or disruptive may be banned without warning.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 20:49

Julia

I am polite to everyone.

Take care

AJ

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 20:57

Michael Jackson



I think the most worrying thing I saw was when I saw that clip of video when held his baby over the edge of that balcony of a Berlin Hotel 60 ft off the ground to please his fans!

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 20:58

Usually he just tosses them off!

juliachcc


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 23:01

AJ - my message was not aimed at you - only those that have no respect. Having a sick joke at a dead persons expense is dispicaple.

notthereyet


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
27/06/2009 23:36

Whats the difference between Michael Jackson and Sir Alex Ferguson??? Sir Alex will be playing Giggs in August

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 00:52

Message 49.



I wish to protest that the spelling of "dispicable" is absolutely dispicable when people go around spelling it as "dispicaple".



Whatever has the Empire come to?



I certainly wouldn't let any of my servants get away with this.



Its dispicable!



Lem

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 18:36

I agree, but and a BIG but, this board is about the TRNC. What has Michael Jackson got to do with the TRNC?





ask the person who started this thread.



news topics are fair game for debate



what has everyone in admin got against littlenige?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 19:26

RE msg 52, cyprusairsoft > what has everyone in admin got against littlenige? <



=> The right question is: what would Admins have *in favour* of him..?



=> P.S. When you press the Shift key on your keyboard, you get capital characters when needed.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
28/06/2009 19:34

as long as you can read it dutchy

i am not so fussy about capitals

we cant all be oxford graduates



nige has interesting post

juliachcc


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
29/06/2009 00:29

Message 51



OK - we cannot all be good at everything! Where's the spell checker when you need it! Too many hours spent using Word......at least I know what it means, and what context to use it in!



Servents????????