The "Elizabeth Cross"

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 21:44

News just out back home that the Queen will give her name to new medal.



It made me very sick (I had to switch off the radio before she finished) to hear a mother on the radio state that she was glad that her son hadn't died for in vain as he is to be one of the first honoured! He was killed in Afghanistan.



What price a life...? Does a medal mean that you have not given up your life in vain?



Mixie

cyprusgaz



Joined: 25/08/2008
Posts: 79

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:00

You are missing the point. It is a token of honour, not a reward for giving up a life. If it made you sick to hear the mother of a dead son and soldier trying to make sense of what has happened. You need to get in touch with reality.

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:08

hi Cyprusgaz,



With respect you needed to hear what was said.



I would have been angry that my son had died.No medal or platitude would change that.

m

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:18

Cyprusgaz....again with respect I tend to agree with mixie.



To most right minded people there is a whole world of difference between those that fought and lost their lives in the World Wars, and our young service people who are maimed,traumatised and killed fighting in the so called "war on terror" in far flung regions of the world which is really just protecting the interests of multinational global corporations and for the poltical and financial advantage of a select hierarchy.

spider


Joined: 03/01/2009
Posts: 5527

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:25

Not that i have a son,But i have a Nephew in the US.Army..and he is doing the work that he signed up to do..he has been given a Medal of honor after duty in Irac and Afganistan (oh well i cant spell.) and we are very proud of him,also he is very proud of himself too,he enjoys his Army life,and has been in the us Army 20yrs..we always pray that he is safe.as he was away from home for 1year.and his family,





Spider,x

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:25

mixie/cronos



You obviously haven't the faintest grasp of what it is all about. The shame is that our servicemen are out there for you. You are just not worth it.







PS , Personal insults are against board rules , therefore i am deleting it ------ Simbas

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:34

Harlequin....I don't need a lecture from you about ignorance.



I am not denigrating the bravery of our service personnel....I am questioning the validity of the "wars" that they are sent to fight and the motives of those who send them.



Misguided patriotic fervour can actually lead to ignorance.

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:36

It's got nothing to do with patriotic fervour. Stop distorting what it is about.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8128582.stm

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
01/07/2009 23:58

mixie/cronos



Perhaps you could let us know which of these wars you disaprove of and why?



http://www.britains-smallwars.com/main/index1.html

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 00:03

mixie/cronos



And these?



http://www.britains-smallwars.com/main/index1.html

Harlequin


Joined: 02/10/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 00:06

and these?



http://www.britains-smallwars.com/main/index1.html

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 00:08

Mixie/cronos - why bother !!!

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 21:43

Dear all,

Sorry my post has caused some people to become up tight. It is funny because how both Cronos and I have been portrayed is distorted(Sorry Cronos but I don't know you but we appear to have been lumped together)



I am a person who

1. cant watch the march past the cenotaph without crying

2. Has visited every war memorial that I come upon in this country and every other country I visit

3. made a pilgimage to Omaha beach to see where all the those poor young men were gunned down

4 went to the turkish memorial in Kar??????? I can't pronounce it let alone spell it

5 Cant watch the beginning of Saving Private Ryan

6. Choke up when ANYTHING about WW1 comes on the TV



Does that kind of sum up who I am?

People should not make judgements without knowing the writer. I do respect those who have laid down their lives but sometimes I feel was it really worth it?

Mixie

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 21:51

Cronos and Mixie: You expressed mainly refreshening and healthy thoughts.



P.S. Don't worry about Harlequin - it's just one of his ID's on this board. Not exactly the person to teach you a lesson, eh?

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 21:54

Thanks DC

I don't like being vilified for no reason

M

teatime


Joined: 20/10/2008
Posts: 852

Message Posted:
02/07/2009 21:55

"This seems to me a right and proper way of showing our enduring debt to those who are killed while actively protecting what is most dear to us all. The solemn dignity which we attach to the names of those who have fallen is deeply engrained in our national character. As a people, we accord this ultimate sacrifice the highest honour and respect."



HRH Queen Elizabeth II



Think her Majesty says it all.