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hydrobrush


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10 mins ago guy looking suspcios with camera bahceli area car reg CAP 711 black saloon.



arrry



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Was he chinky looking ??



borodave


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no taking pictures



yorgozlu



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thats a greek registered car,so I assume they are going to claim their land back



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Have you rung the police station to report him then,what was he taking pictures of.We often stop the car and take photo's of anything and anyone,hoping to get a good picture for next years Flower Show at Ozankoy.Never really thought we might be looking suspicious.It's a worry for the swallows who's houses are empty for months on end,we must all be vigalant.



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msg 4



And why not ?? if it belongs to them..



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CYPWINE,IT DOESNT BELONG TO THEM.IT MIGHT USED TO ,BUT NOT SINCE 1974 NOT SINCE THE GREED GOT THE BETTER OF THEM



cypwine


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Think you will find your wrong there msg 7, hasnt the orams case proved you wrong... the gcs are still the rightful owners of there lands in the north. As for Greed ask yourself who is greedy for selling off land that does not belong to them!!!!!



Mr Vince


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Dear Alice Cypwine. You are obviously looking through the wrong looking glass. The land in the North will shortly be declaired Turkish Cypriot and kept in reparation for the atrocities committed by the murderers in the south. When wil you lot get it that we are not going to be bullied by you lot ever again



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yorgozlu

'NOT SINCE THE GREED GOT THE BETTER OF THEM'

So much so that they felt the need to alter/falsify title deeds in favour of GC's thus denying true ownership rights to TC's.



hydrobrush


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first he pointed his camera at properties, he then saw me turned away spent the next 5 mins taking pictures of the sea ,then drove off ?



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Well said Mr Vince!!



I was at work the other day and a lecturer was trying to think of some topics to get discussion going in groups for students who were studying in the summer for access into University(As an Ice breaker)

He was printing off various things off the Internet and passing them to me for comments. I suggested that he use the North/South Cyprus issue by giving them cribs sheets of facts/issues/dilemmas for each side to debate.

Split them into groups. Give them time to digest the arguments and plan before the debate.



I was amazed that he did not even know that there was two sides to this argument! He knew only the Greek Cypriot perspective!

Luckily, the people I work with have open minds and when I sat and spent some time explaining the issues, dilemmas etc he became completely engrossed. A debate will now happen on the Cyprus issue.



I think that is an indication of what is actually known out there by people who do not have an interest one way or another....No



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To continue





...Not a lot but it is the responsibility to enlighten people in a balanced way. One of the things I dislike about certain of our forum contributors is how they lose their sense of humanity by being so thoroughly obnoxious and you know what as soon as they do that...I switch off!





Mixie



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Thank you Mixie. I hope your students learn about our position here. It's good to know that some intelectual debate is taking place regarding the TRUTH about Cyprus. Not OUR truth or the SOUTH'S truth but the real truth about what has happened here and continues to happen



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Mr Vince,

I have posted this as a new thread because I think it will be interesting to see what develops! I too am anxious for some rational debate to occur which is not one sided.

Mixie



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about time the tc stopped the greeks coming over



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call the police and throw them off the island and stop the bus loads of them coming in with gc tour guides spreading their poison



cypwhine orams case is not over yet and the way i see it will get chucked out for a having greek nationalist judge on the bench



found those footprints yet? see cruise ship post



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borodave,

If they stop the GC's from coming, no doubt the GC's will stop the TC's going South.

If that happens a lot grey imports into the TRNC, eg the food that is labeled Iceland and other UK food stuffs, would dry up. Then there will be big complaints. Also the Oranges and Lemons that are sent to the South would stop and thousands of tons would goto waste. Closing the border will cause more harm than good.



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Timothy, Quite agree aht you should not stop the GC's coming north. But you should stop the coach's and hire cars coming North until they agree that the TC coach's and taxi's have the right to go South! Double standards yet again.



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which site was he looking at , our friends who visited last month are in interested in Villa on Evergreen site.



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yorgozlu, mr vince and alsanakjack, great replies, awaiting the out come mixie



cypwine


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msg 17



Again someone else who does not give a monkeys for the tcs..close the green line and then what will the tcs do for work, health care etc etc ,just out for your self i see..the gcs and the tcs have 102% more right to be on the whole island more than some i should say



AlsancakJack



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cypwhine

I would suggest you take a short holiday from this forum as you are obviously getting wound up, just relax and remember that we are all human beings and all have a right to live on this planet.

And I just know what answer I am going to get from you.



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It could have been just a run of the mill perv taking photo's, .........



Mr Vince


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Dear Cypwine, regarding your message 22.



How can you say that the TC's have 102% more rights to be here than me, for example. If you listened to your GC's friends they would, if they were honest, refute the TC's right to exist. This was demonstrated during the period leading up to 1974 when the Turkish Army upheld the Constitution of Cyprus by intervention to avoid both Civil War between the Greek speaking side and ethnic cleasing of the Turk speaking minority. Turkey did not invade Cyprus. As a defending power of Cyprus, as enshrined in its constitution, Turkey stopped the wholescale slaughter of both GC's and TC's. There has been 35 years of peace and quiet since. Check your history and tell me when Cyprus last has 35 years of peace.



Yes there are too many soldiers here but their presence make me feel secure because the GC's still have designs of this part of this island. Untill the GC's proclaime that they want peace and mutual respect then the Turkish army will stay



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well said mr vince



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Here we go again...............



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Thinker - yep - just what I was thinking!



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Not only this island but they also think Istanbul is Constantinople and Izmir is Smyrna. They brainwash their kids in sunday schools to hate turks -the atilla's. They wont rest until they take back what they think is their right.



Mr Vince


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As far as I can see, the Greeks have never beaten the Turks in battle since the Trojan War, and then they were sneeky hiding inside a horse. I think that Greeks and by association GC's have an historical inferiority comlex going all the way back to the Trojan Wars. The most beatifull woman in the world we are told, left her Greek husband for a Turk. Do Turkish men have something that Greek men admire? or envy?



As we say in Glasgow.....Come ahead if you think you are hard enough!



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Of course it might just be Google 'Street-Mapping', putting NC on the international map before recognition!



At least the 'newbies' will be able to find Guido's!



Pixie


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the trojans were not turkish...



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Cypwine



I've said it before but here goes again.



If the Greek Cypriots had behaved themselves before 1974 and not treated the Turkish Cypriots like second class citizens, and eventually started a programme of ethnic cleansing against the Turkish Cypriots, then the Turkish Army would not have had to come in to protect them, and the Greek Cypriots would he living happily ever after in their properties north of the Atilla Line.



YOU HAVE ONLY YOURSELVES TO BLAME, shame the rest of the world believes your propoganda.



Dusterbruce


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Cypwine, were you not given the choice of staying in your homes in the North? Why did you leave? What were you afraid of?

Were you afraid that the Turkish Cypriots would treat you like you had treated them for years?



cypwine


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what a very immature question msg 34...what would you have done if someone was bombing your street?? stayed and asked them if they wanted coffee!!!



Pixie


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cypwine,

how very tragic, I feel for you....



My parents cannot go back to their village because it was demolished and set fire to. All that remains is some rubble and the trees and grass that have grown in that area.



When the villagers petitioned the E.U about our lost village the greek cypriots insisted that they had documents that it was a place where animals where kept- no people lived there.



They soon proved differently, and now the villagers have again petitioned for our rights.



No matter what you say or think YOU are all brainwashed and turk haters.



Queen180


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Thought this was a North Cyprus forum - why is is that when we post anything to do with North Cyprus on the south's forums someone opposes it and asks for it to be immediately removed!



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I agree with jock - bring back the birch......



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Cypwine



At least they would have stopped bombing while they drank the coffee!



When Turkish Cypriots who tried to travel from Kyrenia to Nicosia were shot at and bombed on the Nicosia road from the Greek Cypriot positions at St Hilarion, were they offered coffee?



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Lets all be clear hear Sipwine, suzzyanne or whatever they call her these days was born, bred and brought up in the UK her Cypriot roots are in question.



eager


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Is there anything wrong with someone taking pictures? By the way what/where is guido's? is it a tourist info centre?



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Turtle, I quite agree, and theres lots more like her who never set foot on Cyprus.



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What was lost was lost..loved ones,and property.land,homes,Fathers,Brother,Mothers.Sisters,sons,daughters..least we forget...war around the world...My Father lost his wife,daughter and home land,never to be returned,although they were still alive........Russia had taken Lithuania....no contact even,except through the RED CROSS..never seen again..



Both North and South need to come to understand this..This is a divided island,The North is Known as the TRNC..



and it seems that is how it will remain..a Part of Turkey..Because Turkey came to save the people living here..

and the Turkish army will remain,the TC..will keep their homes..and so will the Brits...



Spider,XX OH i do so get tired of the constant talks...and Threads on this topic..enjoy every moment of today.!!



harryroberts


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oh my god someone takes a picture and theres panic in north cyprus.



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Don't worry about this................I was told he had the lens cap on anyway



Mr Vince


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Pixie



last time I drove through Troy it was in Turkey



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borodave

about time the tc stopped the greeks coming over



who do you think benifits more from the crossings the tc or the gc. give you some clues



Free health care

EU identity cards

Employment

social security

cheaper flights (larnaca).



your statement shows how much you know about cyprus try asking a turkish cypriot if they agree in stopping greeks crossing.



what if the greeks stopped the brits crossing?



harryroberts


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Cypwine, were you not given the choice of staying in your homes in the North? Why did you leave? What were you afraid of?



Were you afraid that the Turkish Cypriots would treat you like you had treated them for years?





another one who showing his lack of knowledge on events in cyprus the turkish cypriots went north because turkey told them too the greeks went south because turkey forced them too.



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What about all the Greek Cypriots that were still in Kyrenia in the 1980's then?



3 ladies who lived in a house near the Kibtek office? A lady who lived in the old Turkish part of Kyrenia spring to mind. Must be many more.



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harryroberts



Hundreds of Greek Cypriots stayed in the Karpas and of course there were the Maronites who stayed on in Kormakitis.



Many Turkish Cypriots stayed south of the Atilla line, mainly in Limassol and Pafos.



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Yep, Final solution, bring the ANZACs in to control the whole Island bringing with them a few meaty sheep and run riot as they once did in Egypt. They've been pretty idle for sometime now so game on!



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Hay...i always have my camera at the ready..got some real nice photos of the TRNC....and guess what i can now down load them,and do attachments....and wait for it.....Post the on my facebook...WOW....hows that for a someone new to this laptop lark..just need to learn how to get the blue lines up here. and my music...

wow.



Spider,XX



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brinsley,





are you sure you mean the ANZACS?





they did brilliantly well in the western desert against the germans and italians,



but suffered terrble casualties when churchill pitted them against the turks at gallipoli in 1915





as for controlling the whole island,



it does seem a shame the peace operation stopped at the green line in 1974



Ste65


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Cypwine,



Like everyone on here has said the GCs will not be getting everything they want and will have to face facts that the "good old days" are well over for you.



I'm sure before the 1974 intervention by Turkey there were attrocities comitted by GCs.



You sure did start something and Turkey sure did finish what you started.



Get over it, the vast majority of GCs are never going to get more than the compensation the ECHR has decreed should be fairly paid by the local North Cyprus property comission.



This Orams case is just a political game of cat and mouse. There is no way every GC with a beef will get their legal fees paid by the ROC as it is not posible as the ROC couldn't aford it.



Whatever the outcome of the Orams case it will only serve to give a little more hot air for the GCs. I can't see it opening the floodgates for every GC to go to the ECJ to start claims as the average GC can't afford £100k+ minimum for legal fees to get the case to a full court hearing.



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Mr Vince

Good point

I suggest to get a good picture of what happened in 1974 read the book: The Genocide Files (I undertand it is not available in the South). The term 'troubles' does not indicate the gravity of the situation in relation to the Genocide which took place. As I understand it, had the term Genocide been used (as it has recently in other conflicts in the Balkans) then International law and International Agencies would have been involved, so the term Genocide was not used.



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Cypwine, remember when Maggie T got on her high horse ..

and look at the state of her now.



The island will sort its self out in time.



Cyp ... just chill and stop worrying and fretting.



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cypwine:the greeks couldnt even get on with themselves ,which is why the actual war started on 15-07- 1974 and not 20-07-1974.I n that time they were fighting with themselves,I should know couse I was here in it



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yorgozlu - i was airlifted at the time, age 10 with mum and sisters.

Dad was left but he spoke of those that were left. Were you one of those ?



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is this a racist forum or what?

shame on you!

you can't change the past but in the future is there for a possible solution to the cyprus problem, why can't you get your heads around that.

in my tc village gc's are made welcome, with or without camera! nobody would call the police!



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why would they need to go there with a camera?

they could just google it !



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Gobswine msg 35

What would you have done if someone was trying to kill you and drive you off the island?



Troodo.



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hairyroberts msg 44

Are you thick, or do you live somewhere else?



Troodo.



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i guess they are upset for lots of different reasons.

maybe the guy was just your honest sort of peeping tom?

were there any ladies in bikinis close by?



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re msg 4



>>thats a greek registered car,so I assume they are going to claim their land back<<



No.. it's a RoC registered car.. Greek Registration plates are completely different .. CAP XXX means it was an old car...



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re msg 7



>>IT DOESNT BELONG TO THEM.IT MIGHT USED TO ,BUT NOT SINCE 1974 NOT SINCE THE GREED GOT THE BETTER OF THEM<<



Hmm, as the precise land/ property is not known the above statement is subjective... BUT.. you probably know that the ECHR point out if one owned it in 74 - and didn't sell it - one still owns it... !



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re 16



borodave



OMG



did you KNOW it was a TC that took Turkey to the European Court of Human Rights and won the rights for all Cypriots to be able to move freely on the island in April 2003 ?



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Dear Mr Vince re 25



If you check out Annan, TCs living on island were given more rights than GCs and non locals. They are called abrogations and they were temporary "breaches" of HR norms to allow TCs to feel "safe" with "only" 950 TR troops on island .



It stopped GCs from moving where they liked in the "TC zone"



It allowed( for example ) local TCs to take priority for rehousing or to be allowed to stay longer - whilst an alternative property was found.



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If it happens again hydrobrush please keep us in the picture !!



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hairyroberts msg 44



Are you thick, or do you live somewhere else?







Troodo.





no not thick just pointing out the fear and panic expats have when they see someone with a camera.

quotes like call the police i find amusing.



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hairyroberts.



Yes, thick as I suspected.

It is the government that has suggested people call the police and take the car number, until they can pass the appropriate laws through parliament to stop theses opportunists’ from the southern state.



Troodo.



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RE msg 72,harryroberts > no not thick just pointing out the fear and panic expats have when they see someone with a camera. quotes like call the police i find amusing. <



=> Your sense of humour is completely different from the Cypriot Turk Police. I can assure you that they come (and fast!) when you call them. I suggest every expat note down the phone number of your local police - and call them when you think it necessary ("out of fear and panic", of course... Haha! ).



P.S. I've got the impression that the Cypriot Turkish Police really loves to kick Greek speaking Cypriots (with cameras in non-touristic areas) out of TRNC! Well, the Police has my full support.



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msg73



sounds like the "goverment" are also in a panic... i wonder why



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RE msg 75, cypswine > sounds like the "goverment" are also in a panic... i wonder why <



=> Come and find out - don't forget your camera.



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Hi Hans

Maybe they could deport them to Turkey, that might put the sh*t up them.



Troodo.



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P.S. By the ferry of course.



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Mr Vince,

Troy is located in Turkey.



These are exerpts from wikipedia..



In Greek mythology, the Trojan War was waged against the city of Troy by the Achaeans after Paris of Troy stole Helen from her husband Menelaus, the king of Sparta.The war is among the most important events in Greek mythology.The Ancient Greeks thought the Trojan War was a historical event that had taken place in the 13th or 12th century BC, and believed that Troy was located in modern day Turkey near the Dardanelles. By modern times both the war and the city were widely believed to be non-historical. In 1870, however, German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann excavated a site in this area which he identified as Troy; this claim is now accepted by most scholars



The link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_War





From what I know of Turkish history there were no turks in Turkey in those times....



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Pixie



As I said the last time I was in Troy it was in Turkey. It therefore stands to reason that the decendants of the people living in Troy are in fact Turks.





MMMMMM mesage 70



It would be nice to have the Turkish troops numbers reduced to the same number south of the BORDER. However do you think that that would deter any GC from starting up again? Friend of mine who live in Larnaca argue that there are only 30 Greek soldiers in ROC rump.??????

Do you not agree that to have a postponement of ones Human Rights in order to have positive discrimination in favour of TC's is an appalling inditment of what TC's had to suffer at the hands of their so called neighbours, and these are the neighbours who want us back within their control.



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Dear Mr Vince



re msg 80



>>It would be nice to have the Turkish troops numbers reduced to the same number south of the BORDER<<



?? Do you mean to the same number of Greek ( real Grek not CG ) troops?? The make up is mainly Officers and training NCOs .. Really I do not know the true number but it is likely to be in the hundreds..not thousands..



Many Greeks serving in CY bring their own cars and you will not see too many LHD Greek reg'd cars..



>>Do you not agree that to have a postponement of ones Human Rights<<



I see it rather differently.. and if you cast your memory back 5 years - Annan Vote - TCs and a sizeable number of Turks who were allowed to vote felt it was a "risk" worth taking...



Don't get me wrong - of COURSE there were ( and still are ) extremist GCs who wanted TCs off the island.. but this is like saying to the Irish we can't have true peace because of the wishes of a few deluded folk who think they can achieve pure one sided ethnicity on a tiny islan



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My Son is stationed in Cyprus and has a car with Greek number plates. He travels to the north a lot for diving. He has had a lot of problems with people attacking his car even though he has Union Jack flags and St George Stickers on it - Don't judge the person by the car!



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Dear Katy



re msg 82



Do you mean your son has RoC reg'd number plated car or GREEK ?... There is a HECK of a difference...



I have driven over MANY times in RoC plated tourist ( red plate) and normal ( white front / yellow back) cars and NEVER, EVER had a bad experience - other than a silly comment from a young man - when passing down a Street in N.Nicosia.. WE just smiled back and said "Merhaba" and his friends joshed him...



Really, I don't doubt it happened... but your son was unlucky :(



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RE msg 82, Katymackem > He has had a lot of problems with people attacking his car <



=> In TRNC, I suppose? Expats, Cypriot Turks, Turks? When? Where? Until you provide us with the details I think your statement is unsubstantiated and worth nothing.



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cypruschill,dont know where you were airlifted from,but where I was brought up is in nicosia right on the board .We were being taken to shelters every night which was the basement of primary school called"ATATURK ILKOKULU"from 15th of july every night.We survived but unfortunetly 11 members of my family was buried alive.Where were you based?



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re.mes67,what would you know about cypriot number plates?Old or new makes no different.Get your facts wright first then speak,otherwise carry on farting,



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ms82,I have a st. george patche on my riding waist coat,nobody attacked me yet



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Farting.!! now that yorgozlu...did give me a laugh.thanks.



Spider,x



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Well!It is a natural thing to do spider,like talking.Glad it made you laugh



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Mark.

Obviously not enough of them to make a ripple in the last election.



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hairyroberts.







Yes, thick as I suspected.



It is the government that has suggested people call the police and take the car number, until they can pass the appropriate laws through parliament to stop theses opportunists’ from the southern state.



laws to prevent people taking photographs? do i also sense a panic within the government



by the way opportunists is wrong why dont you try international reconised title deed holders and legal owners according to the european courts.



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Mr Vince,



you stated "As I said the last time I was in Troy it was in Turkey. It therefore stands to reason that the decendants of the people living in Troy are in fact Turks."



I dont see anyone here or elsewhere contending the fact that ancient Troy was in Turley.



IMy opinion is that the indigenous people of Turkey and anatolia did mix up to a point but Im sure the Trojans are not modern day turks.



My original posting was to refute your posting re msg 30

"As far as I can see, the Greeks have never beaten the Turks in battle since the Trojan War, and then they were sneeky hiding inside a horse. I think that Greeks and by association GC's have an historical inferiority comlex going all the way back to the Trojan Wars. The most beatifull woman in the world we are told, left her Greek husband for a Turk. Do Turkish men have something that Greek men admire? or envy?"



This was not a greco turkish war and Helen did not run off with a turkish male.



Sorry if Ive offended you



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re message 55 Katymaken.

28 pages of text and pictures of the 1972 publication "The British Empire" are devoted to the "Cyprus Problem".

A sentence from this publication quotes " in 1964 anti-British feeling was inflamed by Labour leader Harold Wilson`s remark that Greek attacks on Turks were "supervised genocide"."



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