One Sided Argument!..

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:14

I was at work the other day and a lecturer was trying to think of some topics to get discussion going in groups for students who were studying in the summer for access into University(As an Ice breaker)



He was printing off various things off the Internet and passing them to me for comments. I suggested that he use the North/South Cyprus issue by giving them cribs sheets of facts/issues/dilemmas for each side to debate.



Split them into groups. Give them time to digest the arguments and plan before the debate.



I was amazed that he did not even know that there was two sides to this argument! He knew only the Greek Cypriot perspective!



Luckily, the people I work with have open minds and when I sat and spent some time explaining the issues, dilemmas etc he became completely engrossed. A debate will now happen on the Cyprus issue.



I will let you know how they get on next week and tell you some of their ideas!



Mixie

borodave


Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:24

how many times do we have to discuss this on here

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:28

Borodave



I guess people will want to discuss this now and until its all over and even then it becomes history and people will want to do it all over again.



Mixie

yunus



Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 327

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 15:56

superb, can't wait mixie. please can you tell me where the uni is based. young minds at work with a clear vision and an eye for detail.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:16

Afternoon Mr Carpet burns.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:23

Lostgeezer



'How far do your history lessons go back Mixie?'



Probably further than GC history books.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 16:38

Lostgeezer

Is there such a thing as a 'simple date'. You tell us all where GC schools start their island political history lessons from.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 17:17

Lostgeezer

Well I tell you what, how about telling us all where YOU think that the Cyprus problem/history starts from.

This will be interesting.

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
04/07/2009 18:10

dear Lostgeezer



Mr Crudd



To make it interesting for you why don't we adopt the Scottish Sylabus for a subjuct known as Modern Studies. This disipline tracks the 20th centuary and includes Europe between the wars and what events created modern Europe. Maybe Cyprus from 1900 would be a fair starting point, unless someone has a differnt angle on things and wants a different date.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 00:10

You do not have any real ideas at all Mr Crudd.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 00:31

The book

The Genocide Files

Provides a good insight into the Cyprus troubles and clearly indicates the circumstances which took place. I was recently informed that they could not use the term 'Genocide' in relation to the Cyprus problems due to international law which would have meant that the status of the island would have been brought under international juristriction so the term 'troubles' was used.

Anyone able to expand further on this?

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 00:45

Lostgeezer



Why don't you go walkabout in the woods around Vimy Ridge, you'll soon find out about history and ordnances.



Richard

fire starter


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 3401

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 08:07

katy,

i have tc friends who lived here during the war, they have read the book and tell me it is factually incorrect.

its a bit like believing all you read in the sun newspaper .

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 12:59

I have read the "Genocide Files" and I don't know if its true or not but it does sound credible.



One thing is for sure I have yet to read a post by a TC to say it is not true, yes lots of people say they know someone or have friends who say its untrue ?



Lets have people on hear who dispute the book that "ACTUALLY" were there and saw what went on

vincehugo


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 13:15

This article in Cyprus Today (5/7/09) helps to shed some light on why the GC's find it hard to understand the TC perspective.



http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=46617&cat_id=1



Extract below



"The teacher is shown giving a short historical overview, beginning with Cyprus’ formal independence in 1960, when “joy, peace and progress prevailed”, and then immediately moving on to 1974. “What just happened,” reporter Katerina Lomvardea said in her commentary, “is that the teacher has just skipped 14 whole years of Cypriot history, arriving at the invasion of 20 July 1974, which is presented as being a bolt out of the blue”. . . Exactly the same is repeated in [the standard text] The History of Cyprus, taught at secondary school level. The 14 most critical years of the course of the Cyprus problem are covered in just two out of the book’s 120 pages"

Yellowbelly


Joined: 17/05/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 14:17

vincehugo



Article is from Cyprus Mail

vincehugo


Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 14:49

Thanks YB. I stand corrected.

Yellowbelly


Joined: 17/05/2009
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
05/07/2009 21:46

Thanks Vincehugo, sorry for being pedantic.

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
06/07/2009 00:11

Not a flood of people answering msg 17 ?