echr hears the first mass case brought by cypriot turks on property ri

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 19:58

The mass case consists of 10 different plea applications brought to the ECHR agenda between 2004 and 2008 by 27 Cypriot Turks.



Mass case owners accuse the Greek Cypriot Administration of preventing them from using or returning to their immoveable properties left in South Cyprus.



Immoveable properties cited in the case are located in south Lefkosa, Pathos, Limassol and Yagmuralan.



Litigants say the Greek Cypriot Administration’s prevention is against the rights of property and privacy as cited in the European Convention on Human Rights.



They also note that their right to claim their rights at the Greek Cypriot courts has been restricted and they have faced discrimination.

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 19:59

Among the Cypriot Turk litigants are some British and American citizens.

Meanwhile, a court hearing by the ECHR will also take place in November, regarding 8 cases brought by Greek Cypriots on property.



These cases have been chosen by the ECHR to make a verdict on whether the Immoveable Property Commission established in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is line with the European Convention on Human Rights or not.



ECHR, with its 17 judges, will hear the case on the 18th of November in Strasbourg.

http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/51851

Hector


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 19:59

How can we follow the progress of the case?

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 20:00

you will hear about it watch this space, time we started playing them at there own game

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 20:14

no comment on this 1 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 20:22

Dear CK



re msg 5



*IF* you paid attention - may be you were too busy cutting and pasting - I have often asked why TCs don't take the "rump" RoC to court for making it so difficult for them ( six month residency rule) to move back to their homes.



I'd LOVE for Cypriots to have the option to be able to live / work where they like, and the REAL property owners to have the option of restitution...

catalkoykid


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 20:24

ahh mmmmmmmmmm maybe you will get a nobel peace prize

hasan1


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 21:35

About time someone had a go back

Turtle


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 21:50

What puzzles me is surely the ROC is infinging TC's human rights by making them live in properties in the south for 6 months before they can claim it back ?



What right have they to impliment this law/rule

hasan1


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 21:54

mess9 no one they make the rules to suit themselves

westender


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Message Posted:
08/07/2009 23:33

Not all TC's gave up their title deeds tp property in the South.

Turtle


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Message Posted:
09/07/2009 00:03

Lostgeezer msg 11

I would guess by law they can not stop TC,s reclaiming the property and would be violating said law if they put conditions in to hinder them. What do the EU say on this subject ?



The South as I understand it do not recognise the "exchange" situation so that does not come into the argument.

dodger



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Message Posted:
09/07/2009 00:16

Great post c.k. you have claimed my news hound title well done,

Paul.

hasan1


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Message Posted:
09/07/2009 10:59

we agree lostgeezer those greedy greeks must be punished lol

Turtle


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Message Posted:
09/07/2009 22:30

Lostgeezer take the blinkers off.

As you well know the GC's are doing everything they can to hinder a fair settlement..... they kick up a fuss when a spoting event wants to come to NC....... if a rock band wants to play here no chance, a cruise ship is not allowed to dock at Famagusta, trade embargoes no direct flights the list is endless.



Now before you come back just ask yourself.......................do the GC's really want a fair and lasting settlement and by that i mean fair for all cypriots.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
09/07/2009 23:40

Well said Turtle. It's all WE, WE, WE want....nothing the other way round .....What do you want?



Lostgeezer, IF a real peace settlement ever came to the table.....What percentage of a Shared Cypriot government would the TC's been entitled Too ? In your opinion? await your figure.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 00:09

Mr Civil servant....any chance of asking the question above.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 00:11

My mistake..."Answering the question above"! Await your reply

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 12:54

Lostgeezer, IF a real peace settlement ever came to the table.....What percentage of a Shared Cypriot government would the TC's been entitled Too ? In your opinion? await your figure.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 13:01

I see your sister in hate cypwhinge is also looking in.......Will put he same question to her!



Cypwine, IF a real peace settlement ever came to the table.....What percentage of a Shared Cypriot government would the TC's been entitled Too ? In your opinion? await your figure.

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 16:22

It is the case that the ROC is now a European Union subscriber and as such is governed by the asspirations, laws and cosmopolitan structure of the Union.

To talk about fairness to Cypriots is absolutely correct. However the whole settlement process must take due care and responsibility for all nationals of the European Union. It is clearly the ROC that continues to neglect its fellow Euorpean Citizens.

I fear that the ROC have entered into the Union in order to capitalise upon the prospect of using Union laws and courts to further persicute the TRNC. What will soon become apparent is the fact that the Union and its Citizens will demand fair treatment from its fellow member the ROC.

The Island,like many other EU states becomes increasingly Cosmopolitan in its etnic structure. This is a fact that seems often neglected when one discusses a solution.

cypwine


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Message Posted:
11/07/2009 17:22

you cyber stalking me again tiggy no one can give an excact amount of percentage... but as you know the tcs were always a minority!!

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
12/07/2009 01:28

cypwine at least you have the backbone to try and half answer the question, unlike your jellyfish mate.

From what you have indicated the TC,s should still be a minority. "we are all Cypriot and can resolve the matter between ourselves" is a load of crap that you spout, which you have now confirmed..



Will Mr Spineless give the same answer as you ?



PS. stalking.....you should be so lucky, say hello to Suzanne for me.....now she was a good looker!

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
12/07/2009 01:59

Cypwine.



It is the case that the ROC is a member of the European Union. The very nature of this Union is that I, you and many millions of others are all European.

Like it or not the Cypriot ticket became somewhat diluted in 2004 when it signed up to Union status.. I have as much right as an EU citizen to visit, reside and earn a living in the Union State known as the Republic of Cyprus.

Cypriots in general are of course the native populus but you have signed up to the Union and therefore you are obliged to accomodate.

Wether GC TC, German, British or indeed from any of the 20+ other states you cannot preach xenophopic

propoganda that clearly breaches the ROC Union commitment.

Any solution must accomodate the Union and all it citizens including all the cypriot populus as you would have it.

CyprusChill


Joined: 08/05/2009
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Message Posted:
12/07/2009 05:05

As an EU citizen i can only wish for the correct outcome on this case.

Time has been a peaceful healer but justice should now prevail.