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cornish



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22/07/2009 08:17

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Family attacked by mob on holiday



Simon Pierpoint was stabbed and beaten during the attack

A Shropshire family have told how they were attacked by a mob of up to 30 people in a Cypriot resort.



Simon Pierpoint, his wife Jeanette, and their five sons, from Bronygarth, near Oswestry, fled after being attacked in Paphos with knives and wooden planks.



They had flown out to the resort for a wedding and were on a night out on 17 June when they were set upon in what they insist was an unprovoked attack.



A Foreign Office spokesman said Cypriot police were investigating the attack.



He said consular staff on the island had offered support to the family after the incident.



'Totally unprovoked'



Mr Pierpoint and his four eldest sons were taken to hospital but discharged themselves two days later to attend the wedding.



He said the incident began when his 18-year-old son Oliver was attacked and he went to his aid.







Need more be said?



elko2



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I spent a weekend at Kumyali village a couple of weeks ago. This is a village in the Karpas peninsula. It was a GC village pre 1974 and apparently the coffeeshops were segregated as Makarios supporters and Grivas supporters and they were at each others throats.



The TC who showed me round the village knew the area very well and speaks Greek as well as the GCs. He was telling me about his recent visit to the dark side. He went to Larnaca and was telling me that the coffeeshops are still segregated as leftists and rightists. Leftists support Christofias in his efforts to find a solution with his Comrade Talat and the rightists are against any kind of a deal and both sides are ready for street figths again. So as a community the GC youth are looking for a fight and any excuse will do. I rather keep away from them. They are the arrogant and spoilt children of the west.

ismet



mmmmmm



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re msg 1



>Need more be said?<<



Source?..



Having lived in Limas(s)ol for nearly seven years - and not exactly being a shrinking violet about my political opinions - and being pro-Annan and been known for visiting "the occupied areas".......



I can confirm the "rump" RoC is a place that is dangerous to walk the streets......





NOT...



re msg 2 Izzie



YES, many establishmnts lean left / right politically, but did your TC friend remember that DISY - biggest party of the right - has been pro solution - advising YES to Annan - for a decade !?



YES, there are some extremists who DON'T want to mix with TCs, but want all the island... I guess Turks have their "Gray Wolves", too...



negativenick


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22/07/2009 09:51

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mes1 - AND the beer is 6-7 euro's a pint.......



griffin9870


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22/07/2009 12:25

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This poor family simply went out to Cyprus for a wedding see link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/8161787.stm. I think people are forgetting that the Pierpoint family had no knowledge or interest in the local politics and regardless of who they were this is a truly awful thing to happen. The group that attacked them had knives etc and were yelling get out of town. I have not heard of a group of TRNC's attacking a british family out for a wedding, screaming get out of town.



yorgozlu



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22/07/2009 12:39

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dear mmmmmmm



yorgozlu



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dear mmmmm



you will find that above topic is about an incident that took place in south of cyprus,with gcs and british



And Ismet abi pointing out his own exprience



thats all



It did not required your usual "political c**p"



about tc-gc or "Turks"for that matter



I can understand that there are some gc members on the forum that often we(tcs)get in heated discusions with.Thats because "we are cypriots"



what I dont understand is????





"whats in it for you"???????????



mmmmmm



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22/07/2009 21:34

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Dear Yorgozlu



re msg 7



Might I suggest you read msg 1 - again - and then the "one liner".. the inference is clear..



I am JUST as quick to ask for to take things to be taken into context when I hear someone had a bad experience in the "north"...



I have had the pleasure of Izzie's company in, N. Nicosia ( several times ) Famagusta and Limas(s)sol.. I feel sure that he felt as safe in my company as he did in mine .... ;)



So - let's sum things up..



no political "crap"...



and



nought in it for me...



racoonchic



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22/07/2009 21:51

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theres no smoke without fire im sure the shrinking/drinking voilets/violence innocent brits were not to blame in any way wise up 2 pints and most young brits are up for the rumble maybe the bride realised her bread was better olive buttered and the future husband didnt like it



KickingK


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22/07/2009 22:15

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If this happended in Ayia Napa I would have believed it..............but Paphos. A bit worried as we have a wedding to attend in the South this August!



Agree with earlier comment, not heard of anything like this in the TRNC, always feel safe when we holiday in the North.



Obviously we don't know the full story.............



Fred8


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22/07/2009 23:27

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There a lot of frustrated undividuals in the south and attacks are not restricted to Brits; a lot of racist attacks especially on students and asians occur without provocation. I do not know butI wonder how many of the board members have noticed that whilst driving in the south on TC plated car suddenly you will have behind you horning for no reason at all or how many have noticed gc driving over driving around Girne or Magusa with the music on full blast. he arrogance is immense and should point the newer generation tc in the right direction as to how the vote for unification



zerochlor


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22/07/2009 23:36

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ahh. poor innicent brits. again you are all listening to 1 side of a story and making your comments,ive been out in limmasol and nicosia many times and had no trouble,met alot of nice people in fact,all asked where i stayed,i said in the north, there reply..how is it over that side!



maybe to many cans or bottles of stella was drank at that party or stag night or gathering, who knows,your only listening to the newspaper story.



And we all know how the newspapers love to LARGE everything.



rdsteve


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22/07/2009 23:37

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It is no more a dark side in the south as it is in the north.

If you go looking for trouble you will find it. It is no different up north apart from 3 time more theiving as a lot of people report on this forum. At least the Police dont beat the shit out of people to get a confession for something they were not involved with (Ismets own words) Ismet I have a lot of time for your posts always sensible and interesting reading.There are just as many spoilt brats in the north running aound in there Beemers and Mercs. It is not as poor in the north as people on this forum make it out to be

Beer is 2.50 euros per pint Carling 2.80 euros a pint So again another think of a number and triple it Negitive Nick post never seen anything useful from him on here yet

Only hearsay but the young English lad was trying to chat up a GC lads girlfriend thats when the bother started. There is always 2 sides to every story.

And yes i support the north by buying my fabric materials from Osman in FamaG



zerochlor


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22/07/2009 23:42

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Message 13



Good post



as i said,2 sides to every story.



a lesson learned then i think



when in the south. dont try your hand with a GCs girlfriend



you just might come unstuck!



mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
23/07/2009 09:56

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msg 1



Still hoping for the source of this report !



msg 14



>>when in the south. dont try your hand with a GCs girlfriend ;) <<



Why not? They are fussy about chatting up one's wife ! ;) ... Seriously, if advisedt," when in the north, don't try your hand with a TC / Turk's g/f " would that be any less accurate ? !...



msg 11



Fred8

>>There a lot of frustrated undividuals in the south and attacks are not restricted to Brits; a lot of racist attacks especially on students and asians occur without provocation.<<



Sources ? Will we read of this in independent reports, soon ? I must have been very lucky to "survive" ...



re msg 10



>>Agree with earlier comment, not heard of anything like this in the TRNC, always feel safe when we holiday in the North. <<



Fighting in a bar, criminal damage to property.. hmm .. believe it DOES happen in "the north".. Excess booze makes idiots of ppl wherever they live :(



zerochlor


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23/07/2009 10:09

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Message 15



mmmmmm



forget this thread for now.



let me pick ur brain!



can you tell me how to program new keys into my dreambox?



negativenick


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23/07/2009 10:23

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mes 13 - RD, old boy - got over the border at Ledra St walk a few hundred Metres and all the bars are charging 6-7 Euro's a pint...



Simple...



Now that didn't hurt too much did it ?



Fred8


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23/07/2009 20:12

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mmmmmmm



Although we are not indulging in an academic debate wherein we have to insert a source or footnote for everthing we say - i would suggest to you go over just the Cyprus mail of the last 8 months and work out the number of attacks on foriegn students for example. Compare those to 'number of attacks' in the north (if any). Furthermore, in the majority of the case I have read it always happens that the police do not tak any



mmmmmm



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24/07/2009 10:24

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Dear Fred8



re msg 18



No, we are discussing posts inferring Cypriots of "Hellenic" ethnicity might be more prone to attack Brits...



Having LIVED in the "rump" Roc for sevens years - any trouble I saw was 100% British inspired..and as a result of drink..



The problem is NOT confined to Cyprus.. in fact..



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8164288.stm



Glad, you like reading the CY Mail.. I wish other papers - throughout the island - were as sharp at reporting unsavoury cases.



As for foreign students feeling "unsafe" in the "rump" RoC... well I can confirm that my wife felt far less worried about her teenage son in Limas(s) ol that she does in the UK ! We know loads of Russian, British, Irish kids studying at college in the "rump" RoC who would laugh at your assertion.. YES.. there are "idiots" who are racial bigots - you'll find 'em anywhere.



Dear Zerochlor re msg 15

I'm afraid I wouldn't have the slightest clue where to look.



Troodo


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24/07/2009 11:07

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It did not take 100% of the GC's to do the killing in the sixtes, far from it. But they did not stop it either.

It sounds like it is starting again. Tc would have to have rocks in their heads to trust them.

What about the truoble their president had the other day?



zerochlor


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Message 19



mmmmm



and to think you came with a good recomendation,they told me,THE MAN TO SPEAK TO ABOUT ADDING NEW CODES TO YOUR DREAMBOX IS MMMMMM



also said you dont charge to much to reprogram my pirate satalite box!



Damm,seems im stuck with just MBC channels for now!



Fred8


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24/07/2009 11:20

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We are not talking here about in relatative terms with other countries but in the ROC, and if you like with the NC. Of course there is racism and prejudices in every country (Russia, UK, etc) but we are not talking here about other countries. We are talking about the arrogance of the GC- yes, as m say he has lived there for 7 years he may have and I have for more than 13 years butt that does not change the fact that there are racist ttacks and whats more attacks on TC's and their car - search this forum for discussion on the issue; I have so far to come accross similar attaks on GC by the TC. As tROODO points not 100% of the GC were involved (or vice versa) in the killing as neither 100% are not involved in mindless attack now.



So I still fail to see the point m is trying to make or defend.



jpierpoint


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29/07/2009 16:53

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Hey guys,



I was there, I am the eldest son (24) I was stabbed in the stomach and shoulder as well as the general baseball "batting"



I am a mortgage broker, my brothers are trainee architect, electrician and a student, none of us have ever been arrested/cautioned, we were genuinely just on a night out, our partners were also out in another group on bar street, we all have partners and weren't chasing girls or anything else provocative, it was an organised attack which was sprung like a trap (5 men got my youngest brother on the floor, when we ran in we were surrounded from all sides by guys with various weapons. We fought and ran our way out as best we could but at no point held weapons, our bodies were testament to the fact the attackers were armed, I personally had 15 baseball bat/pool cue welts.



Lilli



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29/07/2009 16:57

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God that is so awful for you all I hope you make a speedy recovery xx



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