Electrican and Plumber moving to Cyprus!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 11:23

Hi Everyone, Just a little note....Ive just joined the Forum. I plan to move to Cyprus this Summer cant wait to say good bye to Gordon Brown at no 10!



I am an experienced qualified Electrical Engineer, Plumbing and Heating engineer. I specialise and have a passion for complete bathroom renovation/installations. I have a good reputation in UK....(My own Business)hoping to set up in Cyprus...I am a perfectionist and dont rip people off!

Hope to have a happy customer base soon in Cyprus.



P.S. I have purchased in Palm Bay view..very pleased so far!

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 11:51

Hi there - Is Palm Bay View in the North? W should be completing our purchase in NC in May - we will be wanting black marble basins (a quarter of the price than what you'd pay in the UK) in our wet rooms - but we have been told that labour is very good and cheap in NC. Will you be charging UK or NC rates.



In any case, wish you luck with your business venture.

orangekazzie



Joined: 31/07/2007
Posts: 1091

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 12:28

Hi Nunu1

Welcome to the forum. I wish you every success with your plans for your future in NC. As mentioned by Jakki. Local labour is cheap here (we have found a little gem who only charges 80ytl per day, he won't take any extra, only food and water, (works 8am until he's finished, normally around 9/10 at night).

Karen

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 12:46

hi nunu

welcome to the forum and congrats on purchasing and moving out to cyprus,

but i would say like kazzie has said labour and workman can be quite cheap so you will be entering in to a busy sector, i would also say if you intend to work all leagal and above board you will have to obtain a work visa pay all your taxes and last but least obtain and sit exams to be allowed to work in that sector!!!! unless you will be working undercover and if you do you will have to be carfull because if you do get caught you could be thrown out of the country sorry to put a dampner on things for you but you have to know everything you are getting into

good luck and regards

ukturk

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 12:53

This is unusual I thought all tradesmen were meant to move to Spain where they could do work for the expats and charge English rates. Which helps push the cost of living up so the poor expats have to move back to the UK. No thanks.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 13:44

Nunu1, take ukturk seriously,plenty of uk tradesmen do operate here illegally but stand the chance of being deported AND refused entry ever again and as the economy is slowing down the government and Police are looking for other sources of revenue, Fines aplenty at the moment( A friend got one recently for a cracked Number plate!!!).

With your skills, would be worth approaching an existing Legal business and working thru them (eg http://www.warmlifehomes.net/home ).

is very long winded to start up on your own here(without a TC partner) 100k sterling in trust etc etc.On a personal level, they allow me to live in their country, why shouldn't i contribute to their Economy?.

Orange Kazzie is correct manual labour is cheap here, BUT the vast majority do not have the up to date training and understanding of building regs,

The expats here will pay above the local rate for a job well done by a qualified trademen(No disrespect intended, but almost everyone here can tell you horror stories of 'levels of craftsmanship'). Don't rip people off, do a proper job and you'll do well here, you wont earn anything like you can in the UK,but the quality of life,weather, very low crime (and fear of) and much lower cost of living is something we all happily traded for.

Repost when you are over, may well have some work for you. Good luck.

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 16:36

Hi Jakki, Yes Palm bay in in the North, 25 mins drive east of Kyrenia near Esentepe. 2 miles from the new Korenium golf course.



I would NOT be charging UK rates for Plumbing and Electrical. I would charge a slightly higher rate than your average local. Have to do some more research on that.



You know the old saying "You get what you pay for!" Somebody may be cheap, but do you know what they are really doing? i.e. Are they really qualified?



I am a member of the Guild of Master Craftsmen in UK so that should give some idea of my skills, quality etc.........Thank you for your comments.



Cheers Nunu1

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 16:36

Hi TonyHickey, I would not go to live or work in Spain if you paid me loadsa money! Dont like the country, people food, beer....need I say more?



Plumbers have got a bad name in the UK, that is if you can get a good reliable one. Most of them never turn up never mind returning you phone call!



I have been bridging that gap in UK Yes turning up and doing a good job for a reasonable price and people are very happy and amazed! I get lots of referals thats how I get my work......I am a member of the Guild of Master craftsmen.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 17:25

Hi again - I know what you mean about referrals that's how we got our plumber (gold dust here in Essex) - he's great and helps old ladies in distress - no really he does he's one of a dying breed - you sound just like him. I remember now where Palm View Bay is - we are buying at Sweetwater Bay and I have to be honest the craftsmen they use are second to none. Take uk turk's advice though and good luck.

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 17:43

Hi Neal



I would not dream of putting you in the same class as local labour, you sound highly qualified and reliable, both traits are a rarity here.

I agree that going legal and doing your homework are a must, I suspect though you do not need us on the forum telling you that.



Best of luck with your new life,



Derek

Dancer


Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 20:46

Hi Karen



Does the chap you use fit sliding mosquitto doors. We have an apt. on TBV and would be interested in contacting someone regarding the cost of having these fitted. We know someone on the site that had these fitted but considering local labour is supposed to be relatively cheap he was charged £750 for supply and fit which I feel is rather excessive, but may be I'm not being realistic?



Thanks



Anne

spud1


Joined: 22/05/2007
Posts: 544

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 21:02

hi gottheyips you dont give me any advice on my putting by the way i am a plumber had to start work again since you took all my money off me on the golf course you need to include me on your tax returns spud1

orangekazzie



Joined: 31/07/2007
Posts: 1091

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 21:12

Hi Dancer

We had ours fitted by the Company who did our replacement windows. We used a company in Ozonkoy, can't remember the name of the company (Turkish Cypriot though). We had 27 windows (1 is 7ft high x 4ft wide)and one set of patio doors the all in cost for double glazed windows and sliding flyscreens was £3k. They also do the flyscreens which are like roller blinds, which were the ones we wanted, but couldn't because we have roller shutters and they were fitted so close to the actual windows that there wasn't enough gap to take the rollers.

Happy with the sliding ones though - easy to clean, just take them out and vacuum them. Amazed at the amount of dust they collect.

Karen

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 21:16

Nunu1



Even though you are escaping from the UK you will not escape from the clutches of HMRC (HM Revenue & Customs) ie Gordon Brown and his corrupt cohorts.



Believe me this is fact.

li n lee


Joined: 09/10/2007
Posts: 144

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 21:18

We desperately (well before winter comes round) need a plumber to fit our central heating system - any good ones?? had a couple of quotes but think they were VERY high. 13 radiators and a boiler.??

thanks

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 22:16

Tony Hickey,

Bit over the top with your thoughts,the guy is only trying to earn a crust,

Paul.

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 22:53

Tony Hickey,

I must say I have to agree with Paul, you must have a story to tell, to have reacted as you did.

I must admit that I would be p....d off too if I had to leave Spain and return to somewhere like ACCRINGTON. Did this happen to you???

No offence to Accrington inhabitants, I was a neighbour from nearby Burnley.



spud1, God loves a trier, do not plead poverty to me there are several jokes that spring to mind about plumbers earnings, changing trades from brain surgeons etc, etc.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
31/03/2008 23:31

Lee

E-mail sent.

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 01:17

Hi all

Very sorry if people thought I was over the top with my remarks, it was not intended,the point I was trying to make was how totally unfair it was to move to North Cyprus where you will meet some of the nicest and freindilist people in the world who will make you welcome and how do you repay this by stealing the bread out of their mouth by taking their work. By the way GOTTHEYIPS I have never lived in Spain but I do visit Dingle Land from time to time. Hope you are well.

Tony Hickey

tonyhickey



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Posts: 413

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 02:00

friendliest

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 06:42

Hi LovinCyprus, I will do all I can to get away and forget this corrupt incompetant Government. They have and continue to ruin UK beyond repair! All this lot do is take take take! There is nothing left or any good in UK now...anything that is has been taken by the Politicians or immigrants!



I just want quality of life without the stress and strain and unbearable cost of living.....Hence I am sure within 6 months of living in Cyprus and its wonderful weather I will be a happier person!

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 06:46

Hi There, I hope to be settled in Cyprus mid summer. Im sure we can meet up and I would only be too happy to quote for you.



Regards....Neale..

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 07:04

Many Thanks TToli........All I want is to earn an honest crust Guv!

Seems a lot of red tape etc....Will research more...My days of working for a company or similar are over. I need to be my own boss with the flexibilty of working when I want and need to work without the routine every day! (Not being Bigheaded) I have a lot of skills, experience, qualifications I may end up doing something totally different in time when Im in Cyprus!?



Thanks again for advice!



Regards



Nunu1

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 10:18

hi nunu1 , welcome to the forum , i refer to message 21 , quote " there is nothing left or any good in uk now ... , anything that is has been taken by the politicians or immigrants " unqoute ,ever think that the nc people are thinking the same about us ?

have a good day , simbas

Tatlisu4me


Joined: 26/01/2008
Posts: 436

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 10:37

Ditto Simbas

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 10:58

Expats working on the black deserve to be caugt because legal people are suffering anyway dont come here 2 live unless you can really afford to that way you wont be stealing peoples livlihood, remember whot we all thought about the foreiners in england they think the same here and will report people i see cards and fliers all over the place from expats advertising there services and believe me the goverment and tax people are building up there dossiers and already people are being caugt

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 11:48

I understand your comments billybob but surely the Brits are not a drain on their economy surely -

dodger



Joined: 29/07/2007
Posts: 1895

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 11:56

jakki,

Stop calling billybob shirley lol,

Have a nice day,

Paul.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 13:03

jaki anybody doing the jobs without being legal and taking money is draining the economy just stop and think whot you said

look whot nuno1 said in his message 21 he blamed the goverment and the immigrants in the UK but he wants 2 do the same thing here and you lot encourage people like him with ur *cant wait till you come out to do this or that job for us*

his 23 post says he wants 2 earn a honest crust ????? will he pay £100K for a company or take a Cypriot partner !! doub t it so how come its an onest crust

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 13:43

Hi billybob , welcome to the forum i think , i take exception to your comments " and you lot !!!!!!!!! "and where do you get the idea of we are supporting the illegal work force ?, when clearly we don't condone such practice , one persons comment might have expressed that opinion , but don't tar everyone with the same brush , so please exert the same respect and decorum that is afforded to you , nobody respects a bad attitude

enjoy the rest of your day , regards , simbas

AbbyG


Joined: 26/11/2007
Posts: 113

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 14:11

Nunu1:

I think if you set up a legitimate business, as a qualified British plumbing and heating engineer you should surely be pretty confident that with good 'word of mouth' you'd get a lot of work from expats living in NC. I would certainly be happy to pay a little above local rates to ensure I got professional job done by someone well qualified, especially if, like you said in a previous post, you are a perfectionist. Who wouldn't want a perfectionist - who doesn't rip people off - doing work in their villa/apartment!!!!

Good luck,

Abby

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 14:48

hi guys

i do understand where billybob is coming from but there are ways in saying it!!!

it is true in the whole of cyprus there are loads of expats (not all) complaing about the u.k that it is over populated with emigrants doing the jobs that u.k nationals are doing but at half the price doing it for cash and not paying taxes on their earnings and bleeding the u.k dry, but their are a whole load of the same people over in cyprus doing cash work for ex-pats and not declaring it in my eyes this is very hyprictical and two faced, i encourage any expat workman and tradesman to start up a buisness legally in north cyprus not just for the economy to help cyprus flourish on their own two feet without depending on reunification and being pumped up with loans and grants from the e.u but also to help employment of our cypriot workforce and help them learn their trade a bit (some of them need a lot of teaching!!! lol)

so just remember to the people who always complain about emigrants bleeding the u.k dry the apple does not fall far from the tree and the same could be said how the turkish cypriots feel about emigrants in cyprus bleeding the conomy dry by not declaring the earnings!!!!!

good luck to anyone who about to embark on starting a new and legal buisness

warm regards to you all

ukturk



p.s nunu even if you do start your own buisness and you have all the certificates from the u.k you will have to have them translated and also you will probabley have to sit a exam to prove that you are qualified in that industry and to show all the legal departments in that sector the easy solution is to work for a employer otherwise you are in for a long and bumpy ride with lots of red tape to establish your buisness wish you all the best!!!

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 19:29

Billybob - I think you should 'stop and think whot (sic) you said' - Kindly refer to my previous comments - I do not condone anyone working illegally and I find your comments directed at me quite offensive. I would offer work to anyone who could give value for money and craftsmanship - far be it from me to 'ecourage people like him' I think you should retract your statement.

Ediz M


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
01/04/2008 19:37

Hi Neal, It seems we will be neighbours in Cyprus, i have also bought in palm bay view. Are you planning on staying in the complex long term?



Ediz

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
02/04/2008 04:42

Thank you AbbeyG for your support and kind words....!



Nunu1

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
02/04/2008 04:54

Hi Ediz, I plan to live permanently at Palm Bay...Thats if Im not beaten up by UK expats and upset Cypriot Turkish! I have close Turkish, Cypriot Turkish, Greek, Italien, Polish....FRIENDS! The list goes on...Some People just get so upset....Anyway cant wait to have a BIG House Warning Party in KIBRIS!



Regards



Nunu1

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 01:01

Simbas u dont live here but u will probaly use black labor as well, if & when u do, u know its true good nite lol !!!!!!

dont just pick some words read the whole thing

ukt thanx for putting it better for me

but it's whot we are all starting 2 think

Foreiners have come out here jumped on the cheep propertys and dont even think about all the 30 odd years when there was nothing and we are just starting to catch up now and sure there is plenty rip offs but you get them in uk too you see it in the uk papers every day 2 about cowboy builders

as ukt says it is hypoc*** & 2 faced but thats the way of the world isnt it

tonyhickey



Joined: 13/06/2007
Posts: 413

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 02:15

house warming party count me in friend

tony

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
03/04/2008 18:53

hi billybob , forgive me , but i'm not sure i can understand your post properly please enlighten me

have a good evening , simbas

frankie


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
04/04/2008 10:41

hi everyone,hoping to move out to n,cyprus in next few months.Concerned about the two small dogs we are going to bring out with us.Have read several reports of appauling treatment whilst in quarantine, any one enlighten on this. Also any idea of the cost of getting these mutts over to n,cyprus....thanks,any info would be greatly appreciated...frankie.

jakki



Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 865

Message Posted:
04/04/2008 11:08

I'm no expert Frankie - I think perhaps you should start a fresh thread with this one - I have read before about people bringing over their pets.

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/04/2008 09:15

UKT thanx agian, cant put things as good as simbas or as posh, have not as many words but the people know whot i am saying and she is kiding herself if she is saying she wont ever use black expat labor, you me and everybody else knows it gose on all the time i can name expats here who cleans pools does gardens window cleans works in offices dose taxi runs to airports all of them r taking the money and paying no taxes or anything and dont have permission

there is some of them who went legal and they r suffering as well cos of the black labor we might get a page going to name and shame them as well whot do u think

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
05/04/2008 19:27

hi billybob alias bob from bedford ??????? for your information { although i don't have to justify myself to you } i have never used or am likely to use any ex pat labour , as our reputable builders have all their own turkish workforce as well as the pool man , can i say i when i am in cyprus i only buy local produce ,and i go out of my way to do so , i wholeheartedly support the nc economy , i hope this clears up a few things ,

enjoy the rest of your w/e, regards , simbas

billybob


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 576

Message Posted:
05/04/2008 21:36

thanx Simbas

xxx lol

Ediz M


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 25

Message Posted:
07/04/2008 23:34

Hi Nunu,



i look forward to meeting you and i hope everything works out for you with your work/trade. I just cant wait to finally get out there and jump in that pool. I had an email from Carol Ann today saying that the roads are soon to be layed and the pool is going to be tiled very shortly, She has been pretty helpful actually.



Ediz

simma



Joined: 03/02/2008
Posts: 346

Message Posted:
08/04/2008 00:10

Hi Nunu1, you must have looked into cost of radiators and boilers. Could you shed any light on them also a general costb of labour for installing a boiler and 7 rad's. Pipe work is already there.

John.

diezel


Joined: 11/01/2009
Posts: 10

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 18:15

Hi orangekazzie, we need to replace all our windows and patio doors in our vila. Is there a company you could recommed or steer us away from!

rsalih


Joined: 01/11/2008
Posts: 306

Message Posted:
08/02/2009 19:15

Denizalp are very good we had wood effect ones put in very pleased with the result . There telephone number is 22 57 051 or 22 52 751. They are based in the industrial area in Lefkosa. THey fitted the windows when they said they would, which makes a change.

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 07:13

Hi Dancer,



re msg 11: I have just used Mr Fly (based in Catalkoy) for my friends apartment in Ozankoy which included 2 x patio doors, 2 x fixed screens for the bathrooms and 7 x sliders for all other windows for a cost of £475. Hope this helps.

CarrieRBag



Joined: 23/12/2008
Posts: 1374

Message Posted:
09/02/2009 16:10

Post No 3



Who is your little gem and is anywhere near Esentepe?