Can the E.U.afford to miss out on Turkey

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
09/08/2009 21:35

http://archive.wn.com/2009/08/09/1400/cyprusnews/



Turkey offer so much but will they turn their back on the E.U.

Paul.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
09/08/2009 23:08

Newlad..I am sorry to disagree with you but I hope Turkey is never admitted to the EU. They are and always will remain Asian,by geographical position and Religous situation.They try tokeep religion out of politics but it is starting to show its ugly head.Look at the number of bombings they have had over the last couple of years and that is against their OWN people.I would hate to think what would happen if they had free movement of travel if they were admitted to the EU. At this moment in time I think the EU are making the right decision to keep them at arms length. I sometimes think Turkey is not actually bothered about coming into the EU. Why sacrifice being a major player in the middle east for just being a number in the EU...

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 09:22

coachie

theres bombings in spain against there own people ,these are in europe ?



kav

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 09:53

Coachie,

Take your points.You mention geographical location,then shouldnt that apply to Cyprus as well.



Kav,

Good point.I believe that there were more bombings in Majorca yesterday,

Paul.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 10:06

Extreme Islamic fundamentalism is no respecter of borders.



After all...weren't the London 7/7 bombings carried out by "our own people" ?

Analyst_CY


Joined: 10/08/2009
Posts: 11

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 13:18

The EU wants Turkey in Europe. Turkey wants to be in Europe. Turkey wants Cyprus to be reunified and all of the island to be in Europe. So we know where things are going. Yavas, yavas/siga, siga.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 13:40

Agree with you coachie.



Why do we want any more countries in the EU, where will it stop.

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 13:45

Surely if Turkey joined, it could no longer technically be the 'European Union'?

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 14:05

ROBnJO....why ever not?



Israel has always entered the Eurovision Song Contest !

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 14:32

Hi all,

Will they (Turkey) be allowed in the E.U. if they do not withdraw their troops,

Paul.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 14:42

It is not in the interests of Turkey to join EU. After some time EU will be after Turkey to become a member but no way. Anyway, I dont think EU will last more than another 20 years. The Euro is causing untold difficulties to the PIGS (Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain).

ismet

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 15:14

Ismet,

So troop withdrawal wont happen then,

Paul.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 15:50

John

Message 6:



1: 'The EU wants Turkey in Europe.'

Not so, if they did then they would have made it an easier process for Turkey to become a member. The EU is renowned for bending the rules for acceptance of membership, much like they did with the ROC.



2: 'Turkey wants to be in Europe'

The Turkish government or the Turkish people?. Certainly not the Turkish people and as you are aware Turkey is exploring other avenues of co-operation with other non EU countries.



3: 'Turkey wants Cyprus to be reunified and all of the island to be in Europe.

Turkey wants a solution which is not the same as reunification. And as for Turkey wanting 'all of the island' to be in Europe I can see no indication that this is true. Your sources please.



AJ

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 17:44

agree totally with aj's realistic anaysis



once again it is worth reminding everyone that from the greek cypriot perspective

the question of cyprus looms large in eu circles, but of course the claim is absurd



the real cruncher is a tripple whammy:

european working classes do not want more muslim neighbours, that is how it is

european farmers in the south do not want any more competition

european statesmen (aka as france and germany) don't want to be outvoted

hence all this "inappropriate" gobbledegook...



turkey, like most other countries would love an amicable settlement in cyprus

but obviously not at any cost, and not by sacrificing the settlers

today is also the anniversary of the 1964 crisis when turkey looked ready to land

and the usa begged them to hold back



curious thing is those who then dominated cyprus saw no risk in all their games

"you can lead a horse to water but..."



turkey looks to russia and israel as regional partners, perhaps one day syria too

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 18:19

Msg. 12

Newlad,

Troop withdrawal is out of the question, why should they? You have to look at the reasons why they are here in the first place. Unless the Greek Cypriots have bad intentions against TRNC, why does it bother them?



I agree with AJ and Andre. Do not overlook the fact that Turkey is a sleeping giant and is about to wake up. Turkey is using her application to join EU as an excuse to carry out reforms at home including the reduction of the army's stronghold in politics. It also encourages foreign investment. On the other hand Europe wants to keep Turkey waiting at the door and does not want her to walk away. So they are both using each other for their own benefit. As for Cyprus they could not care less but are happy to use it as an excuse when it suits them. The poor GCs think they are important and some even think that they are the cornerstone of European civilization. My foot!!

ismet

ismet

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 18:25

ismet

rowlo



Joined: 12/10/2008
Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 18:39

top answer ,ismet msg 15 , wish i could do them smileys ,

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
10/08/2009 18:43

Ismet

well explained.



Turkey will not get into the EU. It suits both Turkey and the EU to pretend its in the offing,as it does the ROC.That way the ROC can still believe they have some sort of hold on Turkey,and still carry on arrogantly as if Cyprus is the centre of the universe as far as the EU as a whole is concerned.I look forward to the day Turkey or the EU decide Turkey as full member is a no no and ROC's veto becomes as much use as a chocolate frying pan.



The EU is already to big,should have let Poland be the last to enter.While it has been advantageous for the likes of multi nationals to move factories to cheap labour countries such as Slovenia and Romania,very little has been gained for Joe Average.