On the subject of Jez the hairdresser

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 00:50

Hi all we ave all given our support in this sad case. I do not want them to leave the island but forces make them want to. We will do a fundraising dinner friday this week 21st aug to help them on thier way. Please before my knockers jump on my case this is not for advertising purposes but to help a fellow human being and his family If you think this is a vivable propersation then asap let me know. Please you have all offered support lets do it. I had a donation dropped in to me tonight for them so come on get the glad rags on and help and they will show up i promise if i have to drag them in xxxxxx

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 01:59

Lilli that is truly magnanimous of you donating all proceeds of a night to this worthy cause , I take all back what I have said about you

clarissauk


Joined: 18/08/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 08:23

Hi Lilli

Please please give Lou,Gez and the kids a huge huge HUG from me in the uk seems they have lots of support just wish I could be there for them xxxxxxxx

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 08:45

Sorry Liz my dear friend

But this is one celebration I wont be coming to, there are so many Ex Pat families on this Island that have been forced to either sell up or move away because of the restrictions or legalities etc did we have collections for them.

It will probably be ME next year as I dont have the so called thousands in my bank which they require so they will probably turn down my Residency and I would be forced to move even though I own my property and car

So why is everyone jumping on the band wagon about this case when there are thousands here who are struggling I could go on and on

I do wish you luck with your Evening and I think you are doing a wonderful thing.

Of course I feel sorry for Gez and his family but he knew he didn't have the correct paperwork to Own a shop and yet he went and opened his Salon.

Sheila xx

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 11:30

Sheila, I am so sorry to hear this,what an awful situation to be in. I wish you all the luck in the world.



Vicki

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 11:41

Hi Vicki

Thanks for that, but not decided on anything just yet, it will all boil down to when I next apply for Residency (end of Sept) whether they accept what I have in the bank or not, it just makes me so angry as we know and accept that we dont get or want handouts we buy our properties/car etc but they still want this and that,and make it so hard for us to live here. I just want someone to tell me why you have to have so much in the bank what difference does it make to the state, we are not asking for their help, I have two sons for that.

Sheila x

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 11:48

i think that both Smithy and Lilli have made good points....

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 11:50

Hi Sheila, This may be illegal and I am sure someone will tell me off, could you 'borrow' the amount you need for the residency renewal then give it back after? Maybe from your Son's? As long as you have enough to live on it should be ok?



Vicki

Tuttut


Joined: 09/12/2008
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 12:04

Hi Lilli,



What time is the drop in tonight? also the meal on friday as we will be there to support as stated in previous threads on here.

Japit


Joined: 18/08/2009
Posts: 3

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 12:41

Just Joined. Not seen previous thread. Concerned that my wife will lose her hairdresser. What are the exact grounds for the threaten deportation and which government authorities are forcing the issue. Who is fighting jez's case. I speak reasonable turkish have been living here for 10 years and would like to help.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:06

Smithy(sheila);

Do take Britvic's idea on board please!lol

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:30

Smithy,



Take up Britvic's idea, I am sure others have.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:33

Hi Vicki/yorqozlu

When I went with my Son to Lefkosa to do my Residency last year, they moaned about insufficient funds in my bank, although telling them I have a UK account and took copy statements, but they said that i would need at least £10,000 I had all the necessary paperwork, so I asked to see the Manager who spoke pretty good English, my Son said look she owns her place and has ample money coming in to live on and we put money into her bank each month to help out. So he said OK this time

When he mentioned the £10,00 my son said to him I can put £10,00 into my Mums account next year so that she wont have this worry again, he said that cant be done as it has to be moving ie paying out bills paying in etc

so at my wits end what to do this year.

If not they can stick this Island and I will sell up and go back, so I am sick of hearing about people who have not got all the right paperwork, and I do everything by the book, look where it gets you

sheila

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:41

mess 13 - Shiela - "selling up" ain't as easy as it sounds - you seen how many estate agents shrinking their organisations / merging....



Orams case seems to have put the nail in the coffin....

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:46

I Know Nick

But I am waiting until I have been to the residency office and seen the outcome, then I will panic if not will see what happens after Christmas. if the Government make it hard for us what is the option, you work all your life and settle over here, then they throw eggs at you, will know in a month or two what the outcome is.

Then I dont have a choice, but will cross that bridge when I come to it.

sheila

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 14:57

Hi tuttut we are open from 7pm everynight. The dinner friday will be 7.30ish. Hope to see you and everyone else for support xx

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 15:28

smithy(sheila)

When you are due to renew your residency next year,let me know,I'll come with you.lol

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 15:28

Sheila, I think I would just get more money in your account and 'play ignorance' as long as the money is in place, and you see someone different at the residency renewal it should be OK.



I really do hope everything goes right for you, I can imagine the stress this could cause.



Vicki

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 15:39

Sheila

get the money paid in a month before you apply that way it wont show as a lump on your statement, just as a total carried forward mixed in with paying-ins and outs.

stellasstar1



Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 1519

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 15:44

Sheila, I think you are right when you say that they have to see that money is going in and out. It's not enough just to have a lump sum. I know of someone else who had this problem. Had a lump sum , but the immigration couldn't see how they were living as no money was going in or out. As matter of interest, how is someone living if no money is going in or out? If you have a lump sum, then normally it would be on deposit, and you would be getting interest which you draw out each month to live on. This is what immigration want to see, unless you have a pension comng in each month.

adagirl


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 371

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 15:59

Depending on the amount, you can say you were living off the monthly interest?

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 16:05

Stella/yorguzlu

Yes I have my Pension and my sons payment going into my UK account each month which I draw out to pay bills/food etc, so i dont see a problem thats what I live on each month, leaving the other in the high Interest to pay my KDV thats all, so thats what I dont understand I have money to live on etc why do I have to have £10,000

thanks for all the info, but as its due the beg of october, I will have to take all the paperwork from my bank in the UK and act ignorant. which wont be too hard

sheila

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 16:14

Oh Sheila bless you. I hope it all works out for you and if I was you I would take Vaughan's advice and get your sons to pay in 10K the month before and then withdraw the interest to show that the account is active.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 16:51

Hi Joan

I am going to wait until my son arrives at the weekend, he will hopefully have some answers

fingers crossed, I hate this worry every year

sheila

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 17:40

smithy;

Whatever you decide to do is up to you,but please dont hesitate to shout if in need of whatever help.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 18:06

Thankyou so much yorgozlu

I might take you up on your offer, thats so kind of you.

Sheila

weaze


Joined: 25/02/2009
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 18:22

If i am still here I will help too...I have to say that the whole bank thing is exagerated, they were quite happy with my uk bank statements and i dont think i had more than £500 in at anyone time, they were my ex's maintenence payments, they looked at it took copies and were quite happy..

I do agree however that it is all crazy... there is no welfare system here for us to tap into, so i dont see the problem...

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 18:25

Just to keep this thread 'on subject' (AND at the top!)...

Lilli I will be pleased to attend your fund-raising dinner for Gez on Friday 21st Aug.

I expect to have 2 companions, will confirm by 'phone.

Keith.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 18:33

Thank you Keith for bringing this back on thread look forward to seeing you xx

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 18:42

RE msg 2, Hoppi: (...) Lilli that is truly magnanimous of you donating all proceeds of a night to this worthy cause , I take all back what I have said about you (...)



=> Where in this thread or in which thread of this forum did Lilli say the above?! THIS is what she wrote: ... We will do a fundraising dinner friday this week 21st aug ...



Just for the record and before Hoppi explains unsaid and unwritten statements again his unfair way.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 20:22

The Sad Crusader again wishes to pour despair on a good board member wishing to do something for less fortunate then himself.

Our good benevolent friends Lilli and Guido are doing this out of the goodness in their hearts and will provide the dinner only at cost any profit will be donated to the fund I presume.

The clientele that night will we hope donate much more.

Why do you always see ulterior motives in peoples posts, sorry Sad crusader 'you really have lost the plot remember my Orange friend ' we stick together us colonials'



Perhaps you will donate the profits of a hundred maps to the cause?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 20:39

RE msg 31, Hoppi: (...) Our good benevolent friends Lilli and Guido (...)



=> Dear colonial dynosaur, your "good benevolent friends Lilli and Guido" don't even know who you are. Good for them and certainly better for you, I think.



P.S. I think my Italian friend Guido would like to meet you. Why don't you leave the safety of your computer and pay him a visit face to face?

japeal



Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 1052

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 21:15

smithy,



done residency twice now, never shown an account with more than 3k but have always shoen account pension goes into with regular withdrawlals in YTL/TL touchwood, never been questioned on finances



John

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 21:16

Lilli, not sure what is going on, does Bez need a solicitor now or is that by and by? Is DC onside, as not sure, some of the threads seem a little strange, lol

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 21:52

Like most of the Dutch Nation ,Sad Crusader you want others to sort your problems out for you.



If Guido or Lilli would like to see me its not very hard.



Keep your finger in the Dike Hans like the water Your time is slowly running out.



And by the way dynosaur is spelt Dinosaur

As you are very quick to point out to others who spell incorrectly.

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 22:05

Hippo whats going on? thought DC was helping not getting into squables again. lol

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 23:00

Hi japeal

Thanks again for the info, I think now and then they pick on someone I had that in my account last year they wasn't going to accept it but did in the end, even though I showed them my HSBC UK account with money coming in and out, fingers crossed, but whats the worse they can do, so many on the Island are not doing their Residencies at all just hopping back and forth, I do it all by the book and they still make it hard for me. i will know by mid October

thanks again

Sheila x

donaghadee3


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
18/08/2009 23:31

Hi Lilli

My friend, will ring you tomorrow about this - all is not what it seems, I know the full sad sorry story - just be careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

with love P xxxx

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
19/08/2009 00:46

Thank you all for your replies but this has somehow got side tracked. I only wanted to know how many would attend if I did one and only 2 replies. I heard tonight that Jez and Louise are leaving very soon anyway so maybe they do not need help. Will someone let me know please xxx

weaze


Joined: 25/02/2009
Posts: 35

Message Posted:
19/08/2009 09:34

Lilli... I am going to come and meet you today...thank you for all your kind offers of help...

Perhaps


Joined: 19/08/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
19/08/2009 23:40

Im from sad old uk and believe if a country wishes to move on then why pick on a family who belived they had the right paperwork ? I hope lou and gez do come back to the uk and make a go of it here we may not have the sun shine but we have a heart ! I come from the west

Country we are a big county and hope lou gez n children come home ? X