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Lilli


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 11:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 28 in Discussion |
| Another of the great Kennedy clan has died. The last surviving son of this dynstaty. He at least died pecefully. I wonder what we will be remembered for. RIP Ted |
newscoop

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 11:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 28 in Discussion |
| Mary Lou Kopechnie and Chappaquiddic. (not sure about the spelling) |
Carndi

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 11:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 28 in Discussion |
| Perhaps for his support of the IRA and his genorousity in the amount of money he gave them to murder British soldiers. But there again he may be remembered for leaving a young girl to drown at Chappaquidick ( Spelling ) as that could have spoiled his chances of being a senater. |
smithy

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 28 in Discussion |
| Liz I agree I liked all the Kennedy's That Family has had so much tragedy from day one, no one family should have had all what happened to them sorry thats what I feel |
zerochlor

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 28 in Discussion |
| marilyn monroe will be there to greet him with bobbie sands! |
mmmmmm


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 28 in Discussion |
| Sorry Lilli I KNOW we are supposed to forgive.. but his generation of the family brought a lot of tragedy on themselves and others.. |
Jeannie

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 28 in Discussion |
| mmmmmm Have to agree. I believe the Kennedy family's tragedies are a matter of "what goes around, comes around". J |
minertor


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 28 in Discussion |
| The girl's name was Mary Jo Kopechne. I think she was a teacher. |
eager

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 12:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 28 in Discussion |
| Msg 3....hear, hear. |
paddywack

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 13:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 28 in Discussion |
| MSG3 Agreed,had any of the Kennedys lived in N.Ireland during the"troubles" it might have changed their thinking.It is one thing to raise money for the "cause"but another thing to be on the end of what the money buys. |
scoobydoo

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 14:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 28 in Discussion |
| msg 3 .. totally agree |
Suffolk


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 14:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 28 in Discussion |
| msg 3 so do i |
fiendishpaul

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 14:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 28 in Discussion |
| I agree wholeheartedly with the majority of the above comments. Whilst the Kennedy clan has been immersed in tragedy, namely the assassinations of Bobby and JFK, they were not averse to a bit of skullduggery themselves, particularly Teddy Kennedy. Alas, as a previous poster states, what goes around comes around. Paul |
Ozbey

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 14:37 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 28 in Discussion |
| Lilli, You asked. What are your views? |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 15:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 28 in Discussion |
| Hi Ozbey I have to agree with what has been said. Although I feel very sorry for all the tradgedy they endured I think a lot of sklldduggery re Ireland which is sad. I just wondered if he achieved anything more memorable post all those troubles |
cronos

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 15:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 28 in Discussion |
| There are infinitely more worthy causes deserving of our sympathy than the Kennedy clan. |
Geoff

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 16:28 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 28 in Discussion |
| Well I am sorry when anyone dies. But the Kennedy family did none of us any favors, JFK being the prime example of that. The Kennedy family fully support Obama, that says it all! I notice Obama is not visiting the south USA very much, I guess he is worried that he might suffer the same fate as JFK. I cannot see the hardliner whites in the deep south allowing him to remain President for very long. |
cronos

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 20:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 28 in Discussion |
| Not a big fan of Obama then Geoff ? |
CJtill

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 21:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 28 in Discussion |
| This reminds me of my younger punk days when a USA group called the Dead Kennedys were all the rage, though they split in 86, but have since like all good bands, reformed. Check it out. Michael |
karakum5c


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 21:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 28 in Discussion |
| Oh danny boy the pipes the pipes are calling ........................... |
Yellowbelly

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 21:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 28 in Discussion |
| His father, Joseph, admired the Nazis. "His [Joseph's] term as [British] Ambassador and his political ambitions ended abruptly during the Battle of Britain in November 1940, with the publishing of his controversial remarks suggesting that "Democracy is finished in England. It may be here, [in the US]." Wickapedia |
Jeannie

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 21:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 28 in Discussion |
| Joseph Kennedy also bought JFK's way into politics. He was, apparently, a very nasty man with his eye only on the main chance, i.e. his son in the Whitehouse. Before anyone says anything, I know positions of power can all be bought at a price. However, I still maintain that the Kennedy clan brought an awful lot of tragedy upon themselves. J |
Coachie


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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 23:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 28 in Discussion |
| JFK..was the biggest war monger in the US history.In one year he quadrupled Americas nuclear arsenal and armed forces.Very nearly started ww3 over Cuba.He did not know that the Russians were testing him having just been elected. Ted Kennedy will always be remembered for the accident from which he did a runner,not exactly what you would expect from such a high personage is it. He did at least repent on his support of the IRA later on..and his work for the under priveliged in the US was very admirable..I think the families links with the Mafia did not help either.... |
Jeannie

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Message Posted: 26/08/2009 23:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 28 in Discussion |
| Coachie - agree with you re JFK. Agree also that Ted Kennedy 'redeemed' himself somewhat in later years by the work he did for the World Health Organisation (or a body like that) and the under-priveledged in the U.S. As you rightly say, two wrongs do not make a right. "As ye sow, so shall ye reap". J |
Lilli


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Message Posted: 27/08/2009 00:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 28 in Discussion |
| oh my god i wish i never started this xx |
CyprusChill

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Message Posted: 27/08/2009 01:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 28 in Discussion |
| The ravage of the Cancer on an individual again. Now at rest and im sure glad of the respite from the extremes of the pain. Not nice to experience. R.I.P |
Jeannie

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Message Posted: 27/08/2009 10:40 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 28 in Discussion |
| Lilli - message 25. Don't worry about it - it was always going to be a contentious subject Will e-mail you later today. Jeannie xx |
paddywack

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Message Posted: 27/08/2009 11:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 28 in Discussion |
| msg 23. His views on the IRA did not change,he switched horses for his own political ends. |
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