NEWS about Bortec internet service

H&NComputers


Joined: 25/08/2009
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 13:38

hey everyone we just had a customer from extend changing to nethouse with us



but this customer gave us a very interesting info about Bortec apparently if you want to change over to bortec you have to pay £400 for installation which is a rip off!



what we want to know if this is true and has anyone else experience this problem? let us know



it can 2 reasons



1) yes its true

2) or bortec was just trying to rip someone off



hmmmmm?



keep us posted

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 14:13

RE msg 1, H&NComputer: Why don't you call Bortec yourself?! You're trying to damage a competitor in a primitive way. You render yourself a bad service. Won't do your business any good, I'm afraid. Maybe NegNick is right after all.

WelshDave


Joined: 21/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 14:18

How about a 3rd









Post edited for offensive remarks

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 14:32

I have been with Bora at Bortec since we arrived, absolutley first class service and extremley helpful, and we where only charged £50 to £60 the twice we moved, and system had to be reinstalled,and tuned into new Ariel, I think if you new Bora you would not suggest he would rip someone off, We have found him to be extremley proffesinal, and a gentleman. H&N, I suggest you are creating yourself a nasty reputation.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 14:56

H&N



I have used many internet services since being here. Starting with my own wifi built link to a net cafe and sharing their one way sat service, to a 2 way huges/directway sat service to adsl. I also have seen and experienced many other services by proxy including sunnycyprus, extend and the latest 3g offerings.



I currently use bortec and I have found the QoS to be as good or better than any other alternatives, in terms off up time, sustainted throughput and latency. I found them to be efficent and professional for the install. I am asked quite alot which ISP I recommend and Bortec is at the top of that list for me. Believe me I know about internet connectivty. (try googling erol ziya + internet or +telecoms).



I am commenting here only on my personal experience of using bortec as my ISP here. As to the wisdom of such a post as this I leave that to others.

Hayran


Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 74

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 15:01

We switched from Relytech over to Bortec for our School and Offices and their service is fantastic. We have had minimal down time and when rats chewed through our cables they came out and repaired immediately - NO CHARGE!

Keep up the good work Bora!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 15:02

just renewed with extend at home to 2mb,few teething problems at first, they just put a new receiver on my roof with a extra hotspot aeriel attached to it.working great now.trying them for 3 months.



must say got nethouse in the shop,very good,might lso have nethouse at home,shop seems a better service,quicker.

H&NComputers


Joined: 25/08/2009
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 15:10

oh my god here we go again people please just try to understand my question and what i am explaining



A CUSTOMER CAME IN TODAY AND TOLD ME ABOUT BORTEC APPARENTLY IT WAS GOING TO COST HIM £400 AND THEN WHAT I ASKED EVERYONE IS THIS TRUE. IF IT WAS EVERYONE WILL KNOW THAT YOU DO OR DONT PAY £400 IM NOT SLAGGING OFF BORTEC I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH BORTEC CHARGES I JUST ASKED IF THE SAME THING HAPPEND TO EVERYONE ELSE



THATS IT WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE??????

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 15:44

The cost of install varies with various factors.



However from memory the figure of 400 sterling sounds about right. Again I am not inexperienced in terms of wifi kit and the building of wifi based networks. The kit used by bortec is not mdified home use wifi kit but dedicated specialist equipment. This no doubt explians to a degree the install cost as well as the high service level achieved. by bortec.

HNComputers


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 472

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 15:57

Ok this is the wife speaking now:



Firstly I would like to say thank you for all your NASTY messages



I would like to mention the following:

a) Bortec is noway a competitor to us, we are based miles away



b) WE ARE NOT Nethouse, we are only an agent



c) WE only wrote asking a question to find out if it was true or not The fact came from a customer who walked in and had said he saw us on Cyprus44....so wherever he is, I wish he could come forward.



d) I really don't understand the issue people have with us on this forum as we haven't done anything wrong to upset neither of you.



e) I would like to put through, everyone has upset me deeply and you have made my life a misery ever since I have joined Cyprus44.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 16:34

If you wanted to know how much bortec charge for install all you had to do was ring them up and ask them.



The first posts says explicilty that 400 pounds for install is a rip off. Then you suggest the two options, rip off or the real price for all is 400 pounds that you previously already said was a rip.



Basically you say its either 400 pounds for all - which is a rip off or its 400 pounds for some and not for others, which is a rip off.



These are not nice things to say or suggest about a competitor on a public forum.



If anything I have said or done has upset you then I am truely and genuinely sorry for that. I am simply telling it as I see ti thats all.

H&NComputers


Joined: 25/08/2009
Posts: 24

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 17:01

thank you erolz you have a very good point



but if i see that he is he is ripping people off i will call him myself and ask why its this much



im just fed up with companies trying to rip british people off



me and my wife has expreinced this not only with companies with the police as well yes THE POLICE over parking at a non parking are which there was no sign.



even tho im a pure blood cypriot they still try to con me because i was born and bread in london thinking they can take me a fool



like i said i just want to see if bortec is doing this too.

WelshDave


Joined: 21/07/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 17:08

Not coming out of this very well H & N I should give up now before you damage your business even more! Trying to score cheap shots against your compeitors smacks of desperation in my mind!.. I would certainly think twice before employing your services!

HNComputers


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 472

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 17:14

All customers and complaints welcome :-D

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 18:58

ayretin bora is the most pro person in girne - gentleman - perfect english and listening to customer demand!!!

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:01

H&NComputors Basically it is wrong to publish hearsay on a public forum, and it is also tottaly unproffesional

AndyP



Joined: 18/04/2008
Posts: 517

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:14

Time for an admin to stick his nose in!!



H & N I have just been going through all the threads on Cyprus44 and to be honest, I think you are starting to do yourself and your business more damage than good. It is fine to come onto the forum and advertise your services (within reason) but arguing and disagreeing with potential customers is not a good way forward and your posting do not look professional.



This is just my honest opinion for what is worth.



On with the fighting. ROUND 2

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:24

Mess 17 - Andy P - perhaps now is the time to give H & N the "heave ho"....



It was such a happy place before they arrived...





For the record, i have used Bortec for 2 years and the owner, Bora, is without doubt one of the most honest and decent people i have met since i arrived here....



By slagging Bortec off, H & N are making themselves look like silly children....



My "Neg Nick out of 10" awards are well respected here and for the record, i would give Bortec 10/10....



About time the thread was closed now...

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:24

Andy you forgot to put...... DING DING LOL

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:25

H & N...listen to what JohnnyLee is saying in msg 16.



Anyone of us on here could come on with a story..." I was talking to a bloke in a Bar who took his laptop to H & N Computers to be fixed.They quoted him 60TL.When he went to pick it up they said they'd had to replace a part and it was now 150TL! Do you think he was ripped off ? "



It's bad business practice to use hearsay and tittle tattle to cast doubt on your competitors.



Stick to promoting yourselves , not denigrating others.

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 19:26

Bout time the towel went in from HM corner

HNComputers


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 472

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 20:23

no towel thrown in...just giving you guys a little chance to maybe reread what was said and maybe then you could process it the way it was written...maybe some things are just said out loud rather than written.



There was no slagging off......if the guy comes back to sign up i will take down his name for your information



There are many posts asking about internet and pricing etc, the Bortec was info passed on from a customer which we then posted here, whether true or not we do not know that's why we ASKED the question.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
27/08/2009 20:41

RE msg 23, H&NComputers: ONE MORE TIME: WHY DIDN'T YOU CALL BORA AT BORTEC (or one of his staff) AND ASK H-I-M (HIM) WHAT YOU ARE SO EAGER TO KNOW (your message 1)?



You gave us two options in your first message: YES Bortec rips off and YES Bortec rips off. Can't you understand how wrong you are? And that you make it worse for you, your partner and your business? Please, drop the subject.

cyprusfox


Joined: 13/08/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 09:31

I went to see Bortec about a month ago regarding a possible installation. They did indeed ask for £400 for installation, despite the fact that both mast and cabling was already in place. I took my business elsewhere.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 12:28

bora's family is very reliable - either mahmout and ayretin !!!! professionnal and caring of our need !

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 12:31

in business you have to compete no slag off others - it is wrong - i am going to ask ayrettin to read theses messages , i am sure he will laugh !!!!

zerochlor


Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 4024

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 12:40

seems some people think £400 pound is alot just for instalation as message 25 says.



only my opinion,£400 sounds a little to much for me to pay also, seems the subject has now been addressed,maybe it can be closed?



just to add my 2 penny worth, the computer shop that is getting a right slagging off,whether right or wrong to some, they came and took 2 computers from our shop yesterday ,brought 1 back within a couple of hours,and brought the other back this morning.



good prompt service and speedy work carried out on our computers.



were a happy as larry with there work and price.



cheers H&N computers

fourplusone


Joined: 04/11/2007
Posts: 130

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 15:22

quoted 400tl for installation for a friend.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
28/08/2009 15:32

So the 400 was right,but the currency was wrong?



That makes a big difference to the argument !